How Can We Make Health Care Systems fit People Instead of Reacting to Disease: With Andy Wilkins

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  This is an audio series born during Covid times in which myself and my conversation partner Matt Lenzi use John Vervaeke's Agent and Arena framing and a series of different lenses to explore the state of the world, how we got here and where we go next if we are to avoid collapse and build a better future for humanity

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