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Parenting Today's Teens

741 episodes - English - Latest episode: 11 days ago - ★★★★★ - 262 ratings

A daily podcast released every weekday, the Parenting Today’s Teens Podcast features Mark Gregston, a parenting expert who has worked with teens and parents for over 45 years. Enlightening, up-to-date, practical, and something every parent would enjoy listening to. Raw at times, challenging at other times, but always hopeful to get your family to a better place in an adolescent culture that is sometimes a little contrary to what you believe and want for your teen. Parenting Today's Teens is a part of the Christian Parenting Podcast Network. To find practical and spiritual advice to help you grow into the parent you want to be visit www.ChristianParenting.org

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Episodes

Teen Stories: Navigating Loss, Adoption and Rebellious Behavior

April 16, 2024 07:00 - 21 minutes - 19.8 MB

In this episode, Mark Gregston engages in heartfelt conversations with Amber and Maggie, two Heartlight teens. Mark delves into the intricate webs of defiance, loss and the search for acceptance that led these young individuals to residential treatment. Amber shares her struggle with anger stemming from childhood revelations about her adoption and subsequent life events, such as the death of loved ones. Maggie recounts her journey toward healing from substance abuse and disrespect that was f...

Beyond Correction: Building Loving Bonds with Your Teen

April 15, 2024 07:00 - 12 minutes - 11.1 MB

In this episode, hosts Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd address the vital yet often challenging task of cultivating healthy relationships with teens. Exploring the delicate balance between correction and connection, Mark emphasizes the importance of mutual respect and responsibility as foundations for a lasting parental bond. With a focus on communication, setting clear expectations and consistent parenting, Mark and Wayne provide listeners with actionable strategies to create an environment...

I Mustache Mark a Question: Gender Identity, Social Media and Romance Novels

April 12, 2024 07:00 - 26 minutes - 24 MB

In today's episode, Mark Gregston addresses a range of pressing questions submitted by parents. He offers deep insights into understanding the root causes of inappropriate behavior and the balance between setting boundaries and understanding your teen's underlying struggles. Mark addresses concerns about gender identity, the influence of social media on teens, consequences for skipping class, handling highly sexual content in romance novels and more — tune in now! Have a question for Mark? ...

The Unexpected Rejection

April 11, 2024 07:00 - 18 minutes - 17.3 MB

Have you ever felt like you've been "fired" by your teenager? Parents often feel devastated when their teen pushes them away, making them feel unwanted and unneeded. In today’s episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd delve into the underlying issues causing this rejection and explore how parents might unintentionally trigger these responses. They offer encouragement, highlighting how being dismissed by your child can serve as an opportunity for both personal growth and a turning point in t...

Communicating With Compassion

April 10, 2024 07:00 - 18 minutes - 17 MB

Being a parent to teens means learning when to speak, hush or walk away. It's not about winning an argument — it's about deepening the bond and establishing a place of safety and rest for your teen. In today's episode, Mark shares insights on the importance of effective communication and the art of listening when navigating challenging conversations with teens. Drawing from his personal experiences, Mark emphasizes the value of creating a space for teens to express themselves, even when thei...

Teen Stories: A Path to Peace

April 09, 2024 07:00 - 22 minutes - 20.5 MB

Plenty of teens deal with anger, but if the root of it is never addressed, that anger can create much larger problems in their lives. In today's episode, Mark sits down with two Heartlight teens who have experienced struggles with drug addiction and anger management. For Ethan, deep-seated anger started at a young age, and he struggled to handle his emotions. He opens up about his journey to manage his anger and pride, and shares why addressing these things early on is crucial. Check it out!...

Navigating the "I Don't Want to Go to Church" Conversation

April 08, 2024 07:00 - 11 minutes - 10.9 MB

Teenagers expressing disinterest in going to church can cause loads of inner turmoil for parents — but these are conversations that can help you better understand your teen's heart. In today's show, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd address the importance of approaching the situation with understanding and openness, asking thoughtful questions to uncover the root of the reluctance. They also emphasize the need for parents to foster an environment where their teens can question and grow in the...

I Mustache Mark a Question: Love, Loss and Lifestyle Choices

April 05, 2024 07:00 - 35 minutes - 32.8 MB

In today's episode, Mark Gregston tackles a wide variety of your questions. From fashion dilemmas and dealing with loss to understanding sexual orientation and handling the influence of today's entertainment on family values, Mark's parenting trinity remains the key to success. Even when you're at odds with your teen's choices, these principles — love, respect and open communication — hold true. Listen now! Have a question for Mark? Submit it here: markgregston.com Parenting Today's Teens ...

“The Cost of Conflict Avoidance”

April 04, 2024 07:00 - 15 minutes - 14.2 MB

While it may initially seem like the more peaceful path, avoiding conflict with your teenager only leads to greater relational damage in the long run. In today’s episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd explore how sidestepping conflict can harm the parent-teen dynamic by heightening tension and stress, creating emotional distance and limiting the depth of the relationship. They provide practical guidance for parents who are ready to face conflict head-on, emphasizing the importance of sche...

Life Lessons from a Near-Drowning Experience

April 03, 2024 07:00 - 23 minutes - 21.3 MB

In today's episode, Mark shares a deeply personal and harrowing experience that serves as a powerful reminder of the challenges and unexpected twists life can bring. During a snorkeling trip, Mark found himself in a life-threatening situation that forced him to confront his mortality and left him with invaluable insights. Mark explains how his experience now reminds him of the struggles families encounter in the ever-changing landscape of parenting. As he reflects on his near-drowning incide...

Teen Stories: Seeking Belonging

April 02, 2024 07:00 - 22 minutes - 20.8 MB

Adoption is a beautiful thing, but as adopted kids get older, they can face unique challenges — many of them related to feeling abandoned or like they don't belong. In today's episode, Mark sits down with a couple more teens from Heartlight, including Glenn, an adopted teen whose journey through mental health challenges began early in his life. He candidly shares about his experiences with adoption, loss and finding acceptance, along with how the boarding school has changed him. Listen in! ...

Teens and Faith: Figuring It Out Together

April 01, 2024 07:00 - 10 minutes - 10 MB

In today's fast-paced world, it's not uncommon for teens to challenge and even stray from their long-held beliefs. This is an issue that many Christian parents find disheartening, but it's vital to approach your child with understanding and grace. In this episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd share insights on how parents can respond to this challenge, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a loving and supportive relationship with your teens — even when they're questioning their beli...

I Mustache Mark a Question: Prioritizing Relationship Over Behavior

March 29, 2024 07:00 - 4 minutes - 3.91 MB

In today’s episode, Mark Gregston encourages parents not to lose heart when faced with a teen who is experimenting with substances. He highlights how the power of parental love and consistent support can positively influence a teen's choices and behavior over time. Don’t let fear ruin your relationship with your teen! Instead of focusing solely on their behavior, prioritize building a deep, loving relationship where they can find solace without resorting to harmful habits. Tune in now! Have...

Embracing Brokenness: A Path to Healing for Parents and Teens

March 28, 2024 07:00 - 13 minutes - 12.4 MB

When things are broken at home, life can seem hopeless. Whether you are a parent grappling with your own brokenness or seeking ways to support a struggling teen, there is power in acknowledging and addressing pain. In today’s episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd shed light on the transformative power of facing brokenness head-on, fostering deeper connections within families and paving the way for healing and growth. They emphasize that despite the pain, being broken presents an opportu...

Are You Nurturing Your Teen's Spirit?

March 27, 2024 07:00 - 14 minutes - 13.5 MB

Every conversation with our teens builds trust and lays the foundation for deeper, more meaningful discussions. As Mark explains in today's episode, it's in these everyday interactions that we can shape their worldview and sense of self-worth. He delves into the importance of building trust and offering encouragement in small conversations, and how the wise words and positive influence of others can shape a person's character. Tune in to this encouraging episode now! For more insights on co...

Teen Stories: Self-Sabotage

March 26, 2024 07:00 - 19 minutes - 18 MB

So many of our teens today struggle with depression — and plenty of them aren't equipped with good coping mechanisms. Instead, they turn to behaviors that only worsen their mental health. In today's episode, Mark sits down with two young ladies from Heartlight, including Hannah, who bravely shares her deeply personal struggles with depression, self-harm and a journey of destructive behaviors, tracing the origins back to a traumatic event in her childhood. These stories are impactful — don't ...

Parent or Pal: Striking the Right Balance in Your Teen's Life

March 25, 2024 07:00 - 14 minutes - 13.3 MB

Are you trying too hard to be your teen's friend? In today's episode of Parenting Today's Teens, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd dive into the importance of prioritizing the relationship with your teen over "winning" as a parent. They discuss the significance of communication, inclusivity, rules and the distinction between being a relational parent and being a friend to your teen. They also address how to rebuild a rocky relationship with your teen and why you should own your mistakes. List...

I Mustache Mark a Question: Lying, Loneliness and Love

March 22, 2024 07:00 - 20 minutes - 18.6 MB

In today’s episode, Mark Gregston addresses pressing questions from parents, touching on everything from handling consequences for a 17-year-old's lies and skipping college classes, to managing relationships, including a daughter's close bond with her boyfriend and a stepdaughter's yearning for more involvement from her biological father. Moreover, he provides insights into guiding teens through emotional pain and addressing communication challenges at the dinner table. Listen now for practi...

Recognizing and Healing Self-Harm in Teens

March 21, 2024 07:00 - 13 minutes - 11.9 MB

Self-harm, particularly cutting, has become increasingly prevalent among teens, often serving as a coping mechanism for dealing with anxiety, frustration and depression. It's a sign that teens are struggling with life and desperately seeking an outlet for their emotions. In today’s episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd discuss the underlying reasons and motivations behind self-harming behaviors and provide valuable guidance for parents on how to recognize the signs, engage in open discus...

Balancing Protection with Preparedness

March 20, 2024 07:00 - 20 minutes - 18.5 MB

It's always good to remember that our role as parents is not just to protect teens from pain, but to equip them with the resilience and understanding to navigate through it. That's what'll help them in the real world! In this episode, Mark reflects on a story about getting hurt that taught him a lot, and shares insights into the importance of allowing children to experience and learn from pain to a certain extent. Tune in to learn more about the role pain plays in growth and development! Fo...

Teen Stories: Growing Through Pain

March 19, 2024 07:00 - 20 minutes - 19 MB

For kids who've gone through trauma and instability, finding — and keeping — a sense of control can feel incredibly important. But the need to always be in control can hold them back from who they were meant to be. In today's show, Mark talks with two young ladies from Heartlight who both reflect on their experiences at the boarding school. For Megan, who struggled with anger and control issues when she first arrived, learning to open up and embrace change has deeply shifted her perspective....

Are You Missing the Meaningful Moments?

March 18, 2024 07:00 - 10 minutes - 9.94 MB

As parents, we often get absorbed in our own activities and miss crucial moments with our teens. In today's show, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd discuss why it's vital to recognize and seize opportunities for connection with our kids. They delve into the idea of missed opportunities within families and the impact they can have on teens and future generations. Using personal stories, they explore the importance of intentionally engaging with teens, asking open-ended questions and being pres...

I Mustache Mark a Question: Dating, Faith, Identity and Independence

March 15, 2024 07:00 - 25 minutes - 23.7 MB

In today’s episode, Mark Gregston tackles pressing parental concerns head-on. From navigating teen dating and phone use to addressing sexual identity and rebellion, Mark offers not just answers, but actionable advice. He underscores the significance of open communication, boundaries, counseling and maintaining parental influence through each trial of adolescence. Tune in now for the encouragement and guidance you've been seeking! Have a question for Mark? Submit it here: markgregston.com P...

Should You Be Friends With Your Teen?

March 14, 2024 07:00 - 12 minutes - 11.3 MB

Are you struggling to find the balance between friendship and parenting with your teen? Today’s parents often strive to have a close relationship with their kids, but in doing so, may blur the lines of authority. In today’s episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd discuss the challenges of maintaining authority while fostering a healthy relationship with teens. They discuss the pitfalls of prioritizing friendship over leadership, and the impact it could have on your child's development — li...

Do You Have a Flexible Parenting Approach?

March 13, 2024 07:00 - 17 minutes - 15.9 MB

As parents, we all want strong, positive relationships with our teens. But what happens when those relationships become strained? In this episode, Mark highlights the influence of today's culture and how it's changing the nature of our connection with our children. Mark encourages parents to reevaluate their parenting strategies and adapt to the changing dynamics, emphasizing the need for a deep and trusting connection with their teens. Tune in now! For more insight into your teen's world, ...

Teen Stories: Finding the Way Forward

March 12, 2024 07:00 - 19 minutes - 18.2 MB

Trauma at any age can be devastating. For teens, who often haven't yet developed the coping skills they need to work through grief or bad experiences, it can feel like the pain will never end. In today's show, Mark talks with two young ladies from Heartlight, including Zoe, who lost her father at a young age and faced the challenge of dealing with grief and self-harm. Her father's death left a hole in her heart, but as time goes on, she's beginning to heal. Don't miss these powerful stories!...

What Every Parent Should Know About Navigating Social Media

March 11, 2024 07:00 - 18 minutes - 17.1 MB

Parenting teens in the digital age comes with challenges no generation has seen before. We're all learning as we go! In this episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd dive into the complex world of social media and its impact on teens. From understanding the allure of social media to setting boundaries and guiding teens through the potential pitfalls, they offer valuable wisdom and practical advice for parents trying to build a deeper relationship with their kids. Listen in now! For more he...

I Mustache Mark a Question: Is Tough Love Still Unconditional Love?

March 08, 2024 08:00 - 21 minutes - 20.1 MB

Your teen always needs to feel your love unconditionally, but sometimes, a tougher love is required. In today's episode, Mark Gregston addresses pressing questions on parenting troubled teens, dealing with grief, and supporting those with addiction and gender identity struggles. He discusses the importance of affirming relationships, accommodating grief and approaching difficult situations with empathy and understanding. Listen now for advice on how to show unconditional love while maintaini...

Privacy vs. Protection in the Digital Realm

March 07, 2024 08:00 - 11 minutes - 10.4 MB

As technology continues to evolve, it's crucial for parents to adapt right along with it. Balancing trust, privacy and safety in the online world is a unique, and relatively new, challenge. In today’s episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd discuss the importance of understanding the dynamics of online interaction and providing a supportive yet supervised digital environment for teens to safely socialize in. From time limits and location restraints to password sharing, they highlight the n...

What Does Your Journey to Genuineness Look Like?

March 06, 2024 08:00 - 16 minutes - 15.2 MB

The process of facing rejection and hurtful experiences can lead to a journey of genuineness and authenticity. As Mark explains in today's episode, it's important for a parent to work on unresolved issues — otherwise, they might come out in how you interact with your teens. Mark reflects on being fired twice in his life and the profound impact those experiences had on him. He shares how these challenges led him to embark on a journey of self-discovery, offering lessons for parents navigating...

Teen Stories: When Technology Turns Harmful

March 05, 2024 08:00 - 20 minutes - 18.8 MB

Social media and technology can be used in a lot of positive ways — but for teens, there are also a lot of ways it can hurt. In today's episode, Mark sits down with a couple more Heartlight teens, including a young lady who was manipulated by a peer into sending explicit photos of herself. Through her story, she sheds light on the struggles of seeking affirmation and acceptance at a vulnerable age, ultimately leading to an important realization of the value of true friendship and family supp...

Keeping Up With Your Teen

March 04, 2024 08:00 - 15 minutes - 13.8 MB

Today's teens — and parents — seem busier than ever! In today's episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd discuss the challenges of today's busy world and its impact on teens. They discuss the importance of intentional engagement with your teens despite packed schedules, offering practical strategies and advice for parents seeking to connect with their kids on a deeper level. Join us as we explore why staying engaged with your teen's life will help in the years to come! For more insights in...

I Mustache Mark a Question: The Search for Connection and Identity

March 01, 2024 08:00 - 33 minutes - 31.1 MB

In today’s episode, Mark Gregston tackles pressing questions sent in by parents as they navigate the complexities of raising teens in today's world. Mark provides invaluable guidance on addressing anxiety, navigating the digital landscape, discussing sexuality, tackling academic disinterest and much more. He shares practical strategies for navigating tough conversations, affirming identity amidst confusion and striking a balance between guidelines and independence. Listen now for tips on how...

The Power of Pain

February 29, 2024 08:00 - 14 minutes - 13.1 MB

As parents, it can be tough to watch our teens struggle. But if we want our children to grow in character and perseverance, we've got to resist the temptation to rescue them from every hardship. In today’s episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd emphasize the importance of not shielding our teens from the natural consequences of their actions, outlining how this can be a key factor in their development. Our job is not to eliminate pain, but to take advantage of the opportunity that it prov...

Navigating the Maze of Teen Struggles

February 28, 2024 08:00 - 17 minutes - 15.8 MB

In today's show, Mark shares a personal devotional about the pursuit of peace in relationships and the importance of allowing relationships to survive conflict. He shares stories of heartache, loss and hope, and offers guidance to parents struggling with their teens. Mark encourages parents to invest in their child's future and to not give up, emphasizing the importance of taking action and being actively involved during difficult times. Tune in for this encouraging episode! For more on thi...

Teen Stories: The Weight of Expectations

February 27, 2024 08:00 - 21 minutes - 19.8 MB

The teenage years are full of pressures — big and small — everything from trying to do well on a test to figuring out your identity. In today's show, Mark chats with two young ladies from Heartlight, including Emily, who discusses her battle with anxiety, perfectionism and the lingering desire for validation. It's a powerful reminder of the pressure teens face to fit in and excel, and her journey at Heartlight shows the importance of navigating mental health challenges with empathy and suppo...

Building Trust with Teen Grandkids

February 26, 2024 08:00 - 14 minutes - 13.6 MB

Building trust with grandchildren is all about deciding when to share your wisdom and perspective, and when to give them space to seek their own answers. But once you've found the balance, you can create a wonderful relationship! In today's show, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd dive into the important role that grandparents play in their grandchildren's lives. They discuss the challenges and opportunities of grandparenting, the need for intentional engagement, and the impact of storytelling...

I Mustache Mark a Question: Reaching Your Teen's Heart

February 23, 2024 08:00 - 25 minutes - 23.5 MB

In today’s episode, Mark Gregston answers questions from parents who need guidance on everything from vaping and drinking to divorce and blended families. Mark shares that while the nature of issues may evolve, the core needs of every teen — belonging, relationships and a desire to appear older — remain constant. Understanding and addressing these needs, rather than solely focusing on controlling behavior, is the key. Tune in for valuable insights on how to connect with your teen on a deeper...

Building Character and Encouraging Integrity in Your Teen

February 22, 2024 08:00 - 10 minutes - 9.87 MB

Do you feel like you're talking to a brick wall when you preach your values to your teen? You can recite them all day long, but it's the silent lessons taught through your actions that have a lasting impact. In today’s episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd delve into the important role of parents in helping their teens build good character and make positive choices. They emphasize the significance of intentional parenting and modeling integrity, honesty, grace and wisdom for teens to em...

Letting Teens Take the Wheel

February 21, 2024 08:00 - 21 minutes - 19.7 MB

How much do you trust your teen? For many parents, this can be a hard question to answer. But at some point, gradually letting go of control is the best thing for your child — and for you! In today's show, Mark delves into the topic of control versus trust in the parent-teen relationship. He re-shares a personal anecdote of a family struggling with their son's rebellious behavior and how their extensive list of expectations led to a battle for control. He emphasizes the importance of giving ...

Teen Stories: Turning Pain Into Progress

February 20, 2024 08:00 - 19 minutes - 17.6 MB

As drug use is increasingly normalized among our teens, so many of them turn to self-medicating when they're hurting or lonely. Tragically, this can start them on a path to addiction. In today's show, we hear from two Heartlight teens, including Gabe, who opens up to Mark about his journey from drug use to residential treatment. He discusses his troubled relationship with his family and how he quickly fell into addiction — but now, he's working to mend things. Tune in! Visit heartlightminis...

Preparing for Peer Pressure

February 19, 2024 08:00 - 14 minutes - 13.1 MB

Peer pressure has been around for generations, it just manifests differently with today's teens than it used to. In today's show, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd shed light on both the positive and negative aspects of peer pressure, providing valuable wisdom for parents seeking to support their teens through these challenges. They emphasize the vital role of nurturing strong relationships with teenagers so they can be prepared for the pressures they face. Join us for this great discussion! ...

I Mustache Mark a Question: Addressing Risky Teen Behavior

February 16, 2024 08:00 - 33 minutes - 30.3 MB

In today’s episode, Mark Gregston delves deep into listeners’ tough, but not uncommon, questions. From dealing with risky behaviors like vaping and sexual promiscuity to handling the emotional challenges of adoption, Mark offers his wisdom on creating strong, loving relationships that stand the test of teen turbulence. With compassion and humor, Mark highlights the value of setting boundaries and stresses the crucial role of open communication. Remember, every challenge is a doorway to conne...

Five Markers of a Healthy Relationship With Your Teen

February 15, 2024 08:00 - 13 minutes - 12.2 MB

Have you ever stopped and thought about what really builds strong connections between people, especially your kids? Join hosts Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd as they unpack the essential elements that form lasting bonds between parents and teens. In this episode, discover the significance of quality time, deep conversations, clear expectations, grace and a commitment to lifelong learning from each other. Tune in now! For more help understanding your teen's behavior, check out our free "T...

The Power of Perspective

February 14, 2024 08:00 - 20 minutes - 18.8 MB

In order to effectively communicate wisdom to your teens, you need to know how to share your perspective AND see theirs! The viewpoints may look very different, but with a little work, you both can find understanding. In today's show, Mark reflects on lessons he's learned in his own life about the power of perspective. He also highlights the importance of parents understanding and engaging differently with their teens while helping them see the bigger picture. Listen in for this great devoti...

Teen Stories: Mending the Broken Pieces

February 13, 2024 08:00 - 18 minutes - 17.1 MB

High school is a tough time for many teens, full of different experiences and challenges — and sometimes bad influences. In today's episode, Mark sits down with two teens who found themselves in a downhill spiral in high school, including one young lady who succumbed to bad influences after transferring schools, where she struggled to fit in at first. She also discussed her newfound understanding of love and forgiveness and the positive changes she's witnessing in herself during her time at ...

Growing Up in a Changing World

February 12, 2024 08:00 - 10 minutes - 10 MB

As parents, we want to protect our kids. But if you spend too much time trying to control your teen's world, you'll never have the chance to teach them how to live in the real one. In today's show, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd address the challenges faced by Christian parents who are navigating the delicate balance between setting boundaries and allowing their teens the freedom to explore. They delve into the issues of saying "no" too often and explore the importance of finding opportuni...

I Mustache Mark a Question: Discouraging Grades, Divorce and Disturbing Media

February 09, 2024 08:00 - 26 minutes - 24.5 MB

In this episode, Mark Gregston tackles pressing questions from parents about their teenagers' behavior and struggles. He shares valuable insights on connecting with reserved teens, guiding struggling students, addressing self-esteem issues, rebuilding after divorce, and navigating the allure of dark and disturbing content. Whether it's handling tough conversations or setting boundaries, Mark's wisdom serves as a roadmap for parents aiming to understand their kids better while fortifying thei...

Parenting Is Not for the Faint of Heart

February 08, 2024 08:00 - 13 minutes - 12 MB

Feelings that aren't spoken out will be acted out. So, when actions speak louder than words, that’s your cue to dig a little deeper. In today’s episode, Mark Gregston and Wayne Shepherd encourage parents to move toward their teens during challenging times rather than pulling away as a remedy for the invisible issues plaguing their visible behavior. They remind us that conflict can be a precursor to change if we’re brave enough to extend grace and compassion alongside discipline. Tune in now!...

Teen Stories: Rebuilding Communication Lines

February 06, 2024 08:00 - 16 minutes - 15.3 MB

When teens make poor choices or start spiraling, communication between kids and their parents often start shutting down, leading to more problems. In today's episode, Mark talks to two young ladies from Heartlight, both of whom talk about the importance of communication and understanding between parents and teens. They share how they longed for their parents to really listen and empathize with their struggles, rather than simply laying down rules. Listen in to these great interviews! Inter...