Dr. Steve Stites talks with Dr. Barney Graham, the man many call the father of the COVID vaccine. He is former deputy director of the Vaccine Research Center at the NIH, and helped create many of the COVID vaccines we’re using today, which have saved millions of lives. He’s one of Time Magazine’s 100 most influential people of 2021. He talks about how he made the discovery and what he is learning about the new omicron variant. Also, Dr. Robert Simari, executive vice chancellor at the University of Kansas Medical Center, joins to discuss the role academics and science have played in fighting the pandemic.