Legend has it that when asked why he robbed banks, the infamous 20th century bank robber Willie Sutton said, “Because that’s where the money is.” In the 21st century, banks still have the money, but the approach to robbing has changed considerably. Caleb and Greg discuss one such case that features astonishingly deceitful methods.


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(00:00) - A Bank Robbery in Elkhart

(01:06) - Meet Your Hosts: Caleb and Greg

(02:04) - Listener Reviews: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

(04:24) - Greg's Major Work Screw-Up

(12:19) - Welcome to Elkhart Kansas

(16:58) - The Rise and Fall of Heartland Tri-State Bank

(24:22) - Unveiling the Pig Butchering Scam

(25:17) - What is Pig Butchering?

(26:27) - The Point of No Return

(27:18) - Role-Playing the Pig Butcher

(28:21) - The Scam Unfolds

(31:59) - The Bank CEO's Desperate Gamble

(38:16) - The Aftermath and Investigation

(46:09) - Shan Hanes Charged

(49:22) - Lessons Learned and Final Thoughts

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