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Off The Record

91 episodes - English - Latest episode: almost 4 years ago - ★★★★★ - 60 ratings

Music, music tech, and the changing music industry. Hosted by Jesse Cannon.

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41: Goes To College

February 19, 2015 13:19 - 1 hour - 157 MB

Did you catch the Descendents reference? We wouldn't use a legendary punk reference on a podcast with Zack as a co-host for just any silly reason... In the first of a two part series, Jesse and Zack go through their experiences and answer questions on how you can get into and interact with the music industry while in high school and college. Next week the focus shifts to internships and first jobs. We get asked these questions frequently, so our hope is to be able to point back to these two ...

40: Dance Defenders Dance

February 12, 2015 16:27 - 55 minutes - 50.8 MB

What if iTunes bought Taylor Swift’s record label? What could the changing dynamic of artist managers mean for the music industry? And, listener questions! Have questions? Tweet: #askOTR Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

39: I’m Exercising Veto Power

February 05, 2015 14:08 - 58 minutes - 53.5 MB

Jesse makes Zack apologize to President Obama over net neutrality, Zack tricks Jesse into defending Taylor Swift, and we both get into a long conversation about streaming services and political/emotional correctness. Have questions? Tweet: #askOTR Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http...

38: This Is Not Breaking News, This Is My Life

January 28, 2015 13:55 - 55 minutes - 127 MB

Like an episode of 24, Jesse and Zack discuss the blink-182 fiasco in real time as the event occurred Monday afternoon. Through tears, Zack and Jesse also talked about how long bands should get to keep their glory for, data, and a bunch of listener questions (Tweet: #askOTR!). Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Z...

37: The Godfather of Pop-Punk

January 21, 2015 14:19 - 53 minutes - 49.3 MB

Jesse confirms that he is The Godfather of Pop-Punk™ following a discussion with Zack on data + royalties (oooh, fun!), the insufferable things that bands do, the ways festivals handle marketing, and brands changing for the wrong reasons. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitte...

36: A Cop And A Suit

January 13, 2015 16:51 - 57 minutes - 52.4 MB

Jesse and Zack return from the jungle of the music industry to discuss depression in music, Fall Out Boy splitting money equally, Spotify user counts in relation to other streaming services, VNYL, and more. This week is a fun one! Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zza...

35: Saving The Music Industry

January 07, 2015 22:27 - 59 minutes - 54.7 MB

2015 is here, and we have one goal: Save the music industry. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

34: Loudness Wars

December 24, 2014 17:25 - 1 hour - 163 MB

Many months ago, Zack traveled to Brooklyn to drink wine on Jesse’s couch. It was a dark night. Brooklyn was riddled with Ebola trying to root out the suits of CMJ. However, we overcame. Sit tight and spend the holidays listening to Jesse and Zack discuss the Loudness Wars, if paying a manager by month before income is sleazy, if reviews or press releases matter, and how to deal with writing credits. Thank you so much for listening to Off The Record in 2014. This will be our last episode of...

33: Awards Of The Year Awards

December 17, 2014 13:41 - 57 minutes - 52.7 MB

In which we discuss what we learned and got wrong in 2014, how art is viewed in the moment vs. decades later, and our end of the year lists. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

32: Dumbo, Brooklyn

December 10, 2014 13:37 - 1 hour - 57.9 MB

Ranking your art, how we should measure excitement over music, if you should start a record label for your band, and much more. We think this is a good one. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

31: Who’s Wants The Name Pomplamoose On Their Shirt

December 03, 2014 06:19 - 1 hour - 60.4 MB

Should artists who commit crimes have their art erased? Did Pomplamoose really make a mistake? Jesse and Zack return after a wine-filled Turkey Day holiday to discuss these riveting events. Show Notes: offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: twitter.com/zzarrillo

30: I Heard You’re Punk As Fuck

November 25, 2014 23:12 - 41 minutes - 37.9 MB

For in between Thanksgiving portions, listen to Jesse and Zack talk about Jukely, punk not governing your life, Net Neutrality, and more! Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

29: Our Dads Are Very Concerned

November 19, 2014 20:43 - 52 minutes - 48.5 MB

Jesse and Zack go through a ton of follow-up on SpinMedia, Attila, and sexism in the scene. We then get into our reoccurring segment on Jesse's favorite pop star, Taylor Swift. Enjoy! Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

28: Attila The Pun

November 11, 2014 02:04 - 1 hour - 55.9 MB

In this week’s episode, Jesse and Zack take a deep dive into two subjects: 1) Sexism in pop-punk culture and 2) what a five year anniversary means for PropertyOfZack in light of returned ownership from SpinMedia. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

27: Sour Swift

November 05, 2014 23:11 - 47 minutes - 43.3 MB

Cover your ears, Jesse is mad. In this riveting new episode of Off The Record, Jesse and Zack discuss Taylor Swift ditching Spotify, Sour Patch inviting musicians into their house, and take a crack at listener questions. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

26: Punk The Jewels

October 29, 2014 23:08 - 56 minutes - 51.5 MB

Jesse and Zack get into a deep conversation about Bandcamp and it’s relation to streaming services and we why we get nostalgic for music we loved when we were young(er) than Zack. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

25: Parents And Their Punk Children

October 22, 2014 03:48 - 48 minutes - 44.8 MB

In this family friendly episode of Off The Record, Zack shares an incident where a four year relationship with a label was ended and Jesse talks about the failure in commentary over “no platinum records.” A new gambling game was also invented in this episode. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Tw...

24: DRUGS And (ear)DRUMS

October 14, 2014 23:33 - 56 minutes - 51.8 MB

Drugs and how they relate to the musicians we love, sound quality/training/poppin’ eardrums, and artist curation. This week is a good one! Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

23: I, I, I Shake It Off

October 07, 2014 16:46 - 55 minutes - 126 MB

Someone on the internet was malicious to Zack this week, which brought up an interesting conversation on conflicts of interests and honesty in what the two of us do. Also: Ello, pre-orders, and One Direction being board members in 5 Seconds Of Summer corp. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twit...

22: Stage Diving Into A Landfill Of Crosley Record Players

September 30, 2014 18:02 - 53 minutes - 48.7 MB

Jesse and Zack discuss Urban Outfitters being a massive player in the vinyl retail game and what that means for music, Joyce Manor's stagedivegate2014, and also a bunch of listener questions that range from promotion to record labels.  Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.co...

21: U2 Is More Punk Rock Than You

September 23, 2014 13:45 - 48 minutes - 44.2 MB

Did any of you hear about U2 hacking your phone? It was punk as fuck. Also: How do stop being stolen from on tour, a new audio format from Apple, how branding burns out creativity, and Lil Dicky. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

20: The Barometer Of Cool

September 17, 2014 02:26 - 51 minutes - 47.5 MB

Our thoughts on band name changes, recording on a tight budget, what it’s like to work with people virtually, the fact that the next Nirvana already happened, and U2 + the end of the iPod Classic. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

19: But Can You Hang?

September 09, 2014 03:32 - 46 minutes - 42.2 MB

Sometimes it really is about the rule, not the exception. Show Notes: offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: twitter.com/zzarrillo

18: Something Left Behind

September 01, 2014 18:46 - 52 minutes - 47.8 MB

Jesse and Zack discuss Tim Landers leaving Transit and band member exits in general, the record industry possibly standardizing release dates, paying to play the NFL Super Bowl halftime show, Don Giovanni calling out Recess and Asian Man Records, and some listener questions. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Za...

17: Listen For Your Money's Sake

August 26, 2014 03:25 - 55 minutes - 50.4 MB

We're switching things up a little today by having our first guest on the show. Josiah Albertsen is a financial advisor for Raymond James & Associates, Inc. We speak with Josiah about how band's should be looking out for their money today in music and tomorrow after music, what we see band's doing correctly and incorrectly, and general trends that are shifting in music. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter...

16: Death To TBA Shows

August 19, 2014 13:38 - 1 hour - 55.1 MB

We talk about how bands create relationships, a desire to end TBA tours, album cycles + records deals, and what bands (good or bad) that got us into music. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

15: (We Are Not) Being Brainwashed By Pop Songs

August 12, 2014 02:45 - 54 minutes - 49.7 MB

Jesse and Zack talk about whether you need to be tortured to be a great artist, how we’re not actually being brainwashed by bad pop songs, apps worth entering your iTunes ID password into to download, and listener questions. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

14: Favorite Punk Albums And Their Correlations

August 05, 2014 07:26 - 1 hour - 69.3 MB

Jesse and Zack share, discuss, and dissect their favorite punk albums in a very special episode of Off The Record. Make sure to check out the show notes for a comprehensive list of the records with mile markers for each. Thank you all for your ears. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes:...

13: To Defend Or Not To Defend: 5 Seconds Of Summer

July 29, 2014 05:27 - 54 minutes - 49.7 MB

Tune in for a friendly sparring match on 5 Seconds Of Summer and whether or not they will be today’s punk version of a Myspace Band. Also, Joyce Manor not being down to Defend in relation to 5 Seconds Of Summer being today’s punk version of a Myspace Band. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo

12: Gimmickcore

July 22, 2014 03:40 - 1 hour - 55.1 MB

When management should come into the picture, how to escape gimmicks yet find success, our worst music industry situations, and the usual banter about Zack being a child and Jesse being an old man. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on SoundCloud: http://bit.ly/OTRsc

11: Commercial Metal

July 15, 2014 13:20 - 1 hour - 57.2 MB

Bands that write the same album and why, the merch gap, if you should be wearing ear plugs to shows, and our personal vinyl habits. Show Notes: offtherecord.fm Off The Record on Twitter: twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes: bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Subscribe on SoundCloud: bit.ly/OTRsc

10: I Thought It Was Easy To Make Good Music

July 08, 2014 16:53 - 1 hour - 60.9 MB

Viral hoaxes and marketing, conflicts of interests and new exciting projects from Jesse and Zack, and what goes into making good music. Show Notes: offtherecord.fm Off The Record on Twitter: twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes: bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Subscribe on SoundCloud: bit.ly/OTRsc

09: Blogger? I Hardly Know Her

July 01, 2014 05:29 - 57 minutes - 53.1 MB

Net Neutrality, music blogging and the music that gets blogged about or doesn’t, and royalties for indie labels versus reissues Show Notes: offtherecord.fm Off The Record on Twitter: twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes: bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Subscribe on SoundCloud: bit.ly/OTRsc

08: Pay To Play For My Heart

June 24, 2014 17:48 - 55 minutes - 50.6 MB

Legal-needs when forming a label or band, YouTube’s upcoming streaming service, and our thoughts on the Pay To Play model. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Off The Record on Twitter: twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes: bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Subscribe on YouTube: bit.ly/OTRyt

07: Yo Yo Mosh

June 17, 2014 22:53 - 1 hour - 57.2 MB

Bandcamp and Amazon Prime Music, only giving your band one year to pop, and Warped Tour's moshing policy in addition to Warped Tour's Woman Problem. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Subscribe on SoundCloud: http://bit.ly/OTRsc

06: I'll Give You $100 To Like My Post

June 10, 2014 20:41 - 1 hour - 55.2 MB

The evolution of streaming services from Last.fm to Spotify, the negatives of Facebook limiting Page engagement between bands and fans, and our thoughts on ten year and anniversary tours. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Subscribe on SoundCloud: http://bit.l...

05: How To Control Your Leakage

June 03, 2014 16:42 - 59 minutes - 54.9 MB

What to do when a record leaks, managing multiple jobs in the music industry, and the official Beats by Apple deal. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm Off The Record on Twitter: http://twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: http://twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Subscribe on SoundCloud: http://bit.ly/OTRsc

04: Keep Getting Them Checks

May 27, 2014 15:44 - 1 hour - 60.3 MB

College and the music industry, interning, and if blink-182 should go on an indefinite hiatus again. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Off The Record on Twitter: twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes: bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Subscribe on YouTube: bit.ly/OTRyt Sponsored by, Limited Run and Card Included: http://limitedrun.com, http://cardincluded.com

03: Mo Wax, Mo Problems

May 20, 2014 15:49 - 1 hour - 55.6 MB

Vinyl licensing nightmares, marketing vinyl releases, and what the job of record labels are or should be in 2014. Show Notes: http://offtherecord.fm/tagged/episodes Off The Record on Twitter: twitter.com/offtherecordfm Jesse Cannon on Twitter: twitter.com/jessecannon Zack Zarrillo on Twitter: twitter.com/zzarrillo Subscribe on iTunes: bit.ly/OTRfmiTunes Subscribe on YouTube: bit.ly/OTRyt Sponsored by, Limited Run and Card Included: http://limitedrun.com, http://cardincluded.com

02: 'N Sync Running Down A Beach Naked

May 13, 2014 12:50 - 1 hour - 56.4 MB

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01: A Ripoff Of A Taking Back Sunday Song

April 28, 2014 14:24 - 1 hour - 187 MB

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