What does it mean to be kind (to ourselves & others) during these trying times? In today's episode, Katie admits to road rage, Karen discusses how she realized that someone difficult in her life was suffering, and the pair agree that boundaries are a form of self-kindness. 


Karen & Katie also put into the universe how wonderful it would be to Tamara Levitt, the voice of the Calm app, on the podcast. 


Resources from this episode: 


- Calm app: https://www.calm.com/



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