What is your experience of racism or discrimination, whatever your skin colour? Have you been labelled ‘defensive’ for standing up for yourself as a black nurse, or stood by silently seething as a white nurse witnessing a colleague being discriminated against due to their ethnicity?


This episode of the podcast explores racism and discrimination in the NHS, and how black and minority ethnic nurses can progress in their careers.

Our guests are two senior black nurses, Nichole McIntosh and Carol Love-Mecrow, who are Health Education England regional heads of nursing and midwifery for London and the Midlands respectively.


They talk to Nursing Standard editor Flavia Munn about their personal experiences of racism and microaggressions in the NHS and what everyone can do to tackle this behaviour.


The pair encourage white nurses to listen to understand rather than respond and offer tips to black and minority ethnic nurses on getting ahead in their careers such as seeking out positive role models – emulating not imitating – and taking every opportunity.


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