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Lost Xplorers

149 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 1 year ago - ★★★★★ - 8 ratings

William James once said that modern people suffer from an ”ontological wonder sickness.” Through the exploration of various cultures and archaeological mysteries throughout the world, authors J David Osborne and Kris Saknussemm attempt to get to the heart of our lost moment, and provide some potential paths out. NO COUNTRY is a psychogeographical exploration of culture, art, language, and strange history.

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50 - Thinking with Conspiracies

August 18, 2021 14:49 - 1 hour - 172 MB

Part 1: Is it valuable to actively engage with dissonant ideas? Should we uproot our understanding of how the world works? In this episode, Kris puts the idea of conspiracy theories into practical terms. How do we break out of tautological thinking? Why did the “Richard Gere gerbil” story gain such traction? What is “Conspiracy Brain”? / Conspiracy as Metaphor / The Council Bluffs Scenario / Visualizing Patterns Part 2 (available here): How do our personal associative patterns work? How ...

49 - Was Amelia Earhart on MH370?

August 11, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 151 MB

Part 1:   What happened to Malaysia Air Flight 370? We go over the narrative and discuss alternative theories. We go into other plane disappearances, whether or not LOST was a good show, and the limits of human technology. Why don’t we have jetpacks and self-driving cars already? Why can we go to space and have iPhones but we don’t have flying motorcycles?   The Official Consensus on MH370 / Oblique Directions and Spiral Possibilities / Don Lemon’s Black Hole Theory / Was LOST a Good Sho...

47 - Escape from Termite Boulevard (FIRST HALF)

July 28, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 171 MB

On the first part of this episode, Kris and I go over the distinction between values vs. goals, with a focus on cultivating an imagination and an appreciation for nature.   The Value of Imagination / Connection to Nature / The Importance of Commitment   In part 2, we talk about the strange vine-like nature of memories. Where are memories stored? Where do plants store memories? Is every memory we have the first time we have it?   The Metaphysics of Inspiration / Where Do Memories Come F...

46 - Decapitating the Canoe's Mind (FIRST HALF)

July 21, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 176 MB

On Part 1 of this episode, Kris and I begin to construct a framework for how to raise a child, with a focus on “how” to live rather than “what to achieve.” We discuss the influence of capitalism and economic prosperity on prior generations’ priorities. On Part 2, we discuss characters as an antidote to individuality, integrating yourself with your tools, and how not all questions are answered with words. Have you ever received an answer to a problem with a smell? You can subscribe to Part ...

45 - Wrapping a Hair Around a Spider's Leg (FIRST HALF)

July 14, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 174 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss initiation rites throughout the world, with an eye towards distinguishing childhood from adulthood in terms of agency when dealing with uncertainty.   We finish up with some practical questions: what’s the best way to know how many gumballs are in a gumball machine? Why are there so many large insects in the Solomon Islands? Does sex magic work?   We continue our quest to acquire new and interesting questions…   Part 1   Death Thinking / Initiation...

44 - Nostalgia and the Tarot (FIRST HALF)

July 07, 2021 14:43 - 1 hour - 175 MB

In Part 1 of this episode, Kris and I discuss the invention of childhood from the perspective of time and sexuality. Is being a child denoted strictly by preparing for adulthood? Is adulthood a prison? In Part 2 we continue our discussion of archetypes and characters, with a deep dive into the quantum mechanics of the tarot and the aesthetic quality of nostalgia. Are we touching parallel worlds? Kris also has a great recounting of his recent dream, which connects with a formative moment fr...

43 - The Oscillation of Archetypes (FIRST HALF)

June 30, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 154 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss nostalgia and the invention of childhood before segueing into a nice definition of what we mean by character. Make sure to subscribe to the Patreon for the full 2 hr 20 min episode! The show notes are included in every Patron-exclusive post. Part 1: Ambient Noise / Thought Formulation / Getting Too Old for Pop Music / The Invention of Childhood Part 2: Everyday Archetypes / Oscillating Frequencies / Character as Process / Nailing Down Some Definition...

40 - Modern Myth (Part 2): Crystal Radio, Pirate Radio, Ghost Radio (FIRST HALF)

June 09, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 137 MB

Part 1: Why Are Alien Encounters Violent? / Hypnotic Implanted Memories / David’s Alien Visitation / The Magic of Gypsies Part 2: Exclusive Excerpt / Where is the Signal Coming From? / Desert Radio at Night / Meinong’s Jungle On this episode, Kris and I continue our discussion of aliens and bigfoot. In the second half of the episode (exclusive to Patreon), Kris reads an excerpt from his rare book Eat Jellied Eels and Think Distant Thoughts. He then puts forth a frame for thinking about s...

38 - The Cult of Celebrity (Part 3): Shaking Hands with a Turtle

May 26, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 171 MB

On this episode, Kris and I wrap up our discussion of celebrity. We discuss our own personal heroes, and the gradual cultural slide from the sacred to the ubiquitous. David also relates the story of a recent burglary. TMNT / Johnny Quest / Totems / Postmodern Syncretism / The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction / The Real World / Drag Race / Mimetic Desire / Snoop Dogg / Graham Greene / Meteorites & Satellites

37: The Cult of Celebrity (Part 2) - The First White Person They've Seen

May 19, 2021 17:00 - 58 minutes - 49.4 MB

On this episode, Kris and I continue our discussion of our relationship with the concept of celebrity. We end with a beautiful reading from Kris's new collection. Fear & Love / Witnessing a Live Mental Breakdown / Magicians vs. Narcissism / Hierarchy of Social Scenes / The Terrible Smoothness of Jeff Koons / Chubby Checker / The Locust / How We Remember Our Lives

37: The Cult of Celebrity (Part 2): The First White Person They've Seen

May 19, 2021 17:00 - 58 minutes - 49.4 MB

On this episode, Kris and I continue our discussion of our relationship with the concept of celebrity. We end with a beautiful reading from Kris's new collection. Fear & Love / Witnessing a Live Mental Breakdown / Magicians vs. Narcissism / Hierarchy of Social Scenes / The Terrible Smoothness of Jeff Koons / Chubby Checker / The Locust / How We Remember Our Lives

36 - The Cult of Celebrity (Part 1): Fear, Admiration, and Aspiration

May 12, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 187 MB

On this episode, Kris and I take a look at the concept of celebrity in pop culture by first taking a dive into the past, where we focus on Alexander the Great, Jenny Lind, and Bing Crosby.

35 - The Diet of Illusion (Part 3): Influencers

May 05, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 181 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss my new role as a father, the joys and trials of raising a newborn, the role of influence in online media, and how The Wicker Man is the perfect metaphor for our times.

34 - The Diet of Illusion (Part 2): DDT Is Good For Me!

April 28, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 171 MB

On this episode, Kris and I continue our discussion of media saturation, this time focusing on the issue of advertising and its insidious effects on information consumption.

33 - The Diet of Illusion (Part 1): The Walter Cronkite Pillow Effigy

April 21, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 167 MB

On this episode, Kris and I begin our discussion of the history of media and advertising’s control over the public consciousness.  We discuss the trajectory of modern news networks, test pattern curses, and the decentralization of journalism vs. tech company censorship. Show notes: Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man The monkey and the ant reference Lowell Thomas Curtis Yarvin’s “Cathedral” “TV’s First Star - Felix the Cat” Walter Cronkite William Randolph Hearst “Profiles in...

32 - The Continuum of Progress (Part 3)

April 14, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 155 MB

On this episode, Kris and I round up our discussion on the five elements of human progress. This time, we focus mainly on social progress, with a focus on Prohibition, the tradeoffs of social reform, and the need to maintain our humanity. Plus, we answer listener mail, responding to an extremely insightful comment from Philippa of Greenspace. Show notes: Robert Irwin Seeing is Forgetting the Name of the Thing One Sees by Lawrence Weschler “LOST IN TIME AND OUT OF SEASON: GROWING UP IN 1...

31 - The Continuum of Progress (Part 2)

April 07, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 58 MB

On this episode, Kris and I continue our discussion of technological and cultural progress, touching on the agency of the homeless, the violence of revolution, and how the powers that be utilize technology to respond to social change. Show Notes: Bayo Akomolafe The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis The Adventures of Baron Munchausen Dante’s Inferno Milton’s Paradise Lost The Pilgrim’s Progress by John Bunyan The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis The Seattle Space Needle Century 21 Expos...

30 - The Continuum of Progress? (Part 1)

March 31, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 150 MB

Kris and David begin their discussion on the five aspects of progress: religious, biological, technological, social, and cultural. We start with the first three, talking about reincarnation stories, the Red Queen Hypothesis, and hyperstitional beings along the way. Show Notes: The Myth of the Eternal Return by Mircea Eliade “211th Chorus” by Jack Kerouac CERN Meister Eckhart The Great Chain of Being by Arthur O. Lovejoy “Man Gave Names to All the Animals” by Bob Dylan Quokkas Leigh ...

29 - Sacred Mechanics

March 24, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 154 MB

On this episode, Kris and I continue our discussion of initiation and headlessness, riffing on ideas of cave dwellers, headless saints, and people who think they invented Gatorade.   Basque cooking Christina Dodwell Sepik River Crocodile Scarification Vanuatu Kava Cephalophores Epistemology vs. Ontology Desert Fathers The Doors - “Black Polished Chrome” Sulawesi Cave Paintings     For more information on the mind/body split going back to Neoplatonism I mention in the show, pleas...

28 - How to Become Headless

March 17, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 158 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss the quantum entanglement of spirit beings, initiation rituals, and the necessity of headlessness. Show Notes: An Interview with Marisol de la Cadena Cogito, ergo sum Ausangate Plato’s allegory of the cave Woozles Pygmies and Dream Giants by Kilton Stewart The Forest People by Colin Turnbull I Heart Huckabees Sateré-Mawé Bullet Ant Initiation Schmidt sting pain index The Headless Rite Jack Parsons Georges Bataille DMT Kiva Ceremony by Lesli...

27 - World Belong Cargo (Part 3)

March 10, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 165 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss how to listen to the world, making out with jaguars, and how to separate chaos from complexity.  Chimbu Provence Bronisław Malinowski Margaret Mead Cannibal Metaphysics by Eduardo Viveiros de Castro Perspectivism Charles Sanders Peirce Ian T. Baldwin José Ortega y Gasset Tristes Tropique by Claude Lévi-Strauss The Discovery of Guiana by Sir Walter Raleigh Earth Beings by Marisol de la Cadena   Follow JDO’s blog here: www.brokenriverbooks.com ...

26 - World Belong Cargo (Part 2)

March 03, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 84.9 MB

On this episode, Kris and I continue our discussion of the Solomon Islands, including cargo as a verb, the meaning of cults, and the ongoing destruction of the Melanesian ecosystem. Abandoned Malls The Strait of Malacca The Pirates of Southeast Asia The Mushroom at the End of the World by Anna Tsing Staying with the Trouble by Donna Harawy Dakkar Nightlife in Lagos The Wantok System The Moonies Proboscis Monkeys CALL TO ACTION: Leave a review at iTunes here. Follow us on Twitter...

25 - World Belong Cargo (Part 1)

February 24, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 161 MB

John Frum cults, cargo prophets, and the Yupno construction of time. On this episode, Kris and I begin our discussion of alternative ways of thought by taking a close look at the diverse and complex cultures of Melanesia.   Show Notes:   Turtle Island The Three Sisters Map of Melanesia The Independence of Papua New Guinea Huli Wigmen Asaro Mudmen Cargo Cults The Trumpet Shall Sound by Peter Worsley Road Belong Cargo by Peter Lawrence The Lyndon Johnson Cult Yasur Volcano John ...

24 - The Outside Passenger

February 17, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 54.1 MB

Sigil magic, cigarette ad campaigns, and ontological wonder sickness. In this episode, Kris and I discuss the dangerous trap of individualism, and the hole it has left in the heart of the world. Long Pig Nostradamus Emanuel Swedenborg Clarke’s Three Laws Sigil magic Werner Heisenberg Heinz Pagels The Neptune Society A Pluralistic Universe by William James The Lucky Strike Campaign Edward Bernays Sinclair Lewis Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi Please share these episodes with your friend...

23 - The Haunted Mirror (Part 3)

February 10, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 158 MB

Pre-linguistic dream states, self-induced schizophrenia, and the spirit world. On this episode, Kris and I wrap up our preliminary discussion on mysterious doubles by investigating the voices in our heads.   How Forests Think by Eduardo Kohn Runa Puma “The people who do not hear voices in their head” Headspace Jungian Depth Psychology “Shooting the terrible master” Joshua Slocum Orland Bishop Roman baths Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick The Man Who Fell to E...

22 - The Haunted Mirror (Part 2)

February 03, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 67 MB

Time loops, tulpas, and incredible hulks. On this episode, Kris and I continue our exploration into mysterious doubles, this time focusing on literary figures and the human mind. John Donne’s doppelgänger sighting Percy Bysse Shelley “The Rime of the Ancient Mariner” by Samuel Taylor Coleridge Lord Byron E.T.A. Hoffman “William Wilson” by Edgar Allan Poe Sylvia Plath “The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” by Robert Louis Stevenson The Incredible Hulk “Like a Pimp” by David B...

21 - The Haunted Mirror (Part 1)

January 27, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 175 MB

Hermetic mysteries, Egyptian shadows, and the underground tunnels of the mind.  In the first part of our series on strange doubles, Kris and I discuss the mythological, folkloric, and religious origins of the doppelgänger. The Vardøger Janus The Case of Emily Sagée The Uncanny Syzygy Castor and Pollux Tonopah The Field of Flowers Simonides of Ceos As Above, So Below Anima vs. Animus Manichaeism Enantiodromia Metaphors We Live By by George Lakoff and Mark Johnson Ka Khaibit Harry Houdini The...

20 - In Search of Genius (Part 3)

January 20, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 178 MB

Labyrinths, hybrid creatures, and psychic ghost ships. On this episode, Kris and I wrap up our conversation around artistic genius through a discussion of two writers who are very important to us. We finish up with the question: why are so many artistic geniuses not recognized during their lifetimes? If you enjoy this show, Kris and I would be grateful if you went and left a review on iTunes. Please subscribe to our channel, share the episodes on social media, and talk about the ideas prese...

19 - In Search of Genius (Part 2)

January 13, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 164 MB

Mystery men, guild navigators, and private worlds. On this episode, Kris and I continue our discussion on genius, this time using the example of three surrealists to probe the ways in which this elusive quality might arise through art. Adolph Gottlieb Mark Rothko Rothko's "Statement About Art" Mysticism The Interior Castle by St. Teresa of Ávila David Lynch Transcendental Meditation Catching the Big Fish David Lynch's Masterclass "The Dinner Scene" from Eraserhead  "The Mystery Man" from Lo...

18 - In Search of Genius (Part 1)

January 06, 2021 18:00 - 1 hour - 175 MB

Singularities, mushroom clouds, and Brooklyn graffiti artists. On this episode, Kris and I discuss the human limits of technological progression, imagination overload, and art as an emergent property of exploration.  CP Snow - "Two Cultures" Ray Kurzweil Moore’s Law The Singularity Kurzweil's TED Talk The Age of Spiritual Machines Monoclonal antibody drugs for cancer treatment K. Eric Drexler Everything (video game) Kant’s hypothetical vs. categorical imperative Robert Anton Wilson Philip K...

17 - Fish with Necks

December 30, 2020 18:00 - 1 hour - 167 MB

Electrified frogs, scientific heretics, and dangerous ideas. On this episode, Kris and I discuss upsetting the chessboard, pluralism in human knowledge, and the limits of our current understanding. Gary KasparovSheldrake's appearance on Future VisionsCoco ChanelRichard Dawkins interview on Impact TheoryHomeopathyThe 1001 NightsCompendium of the Malay ArchipelagoThomas MertonJohn AT RobinsonWilliam JamesAlfred NobelGalvani & VoltaPercival LowellJoseph NeedhamLes Chants de Maldoror Music and...

17 - Heretical Science and Dangerous Ideas

December 30, 2020 18:00 - 1 hour - 167 MB

Electrified frogs, scientific heretics, and dangerous ideas. On this episode, Kris and I discuss upsetting the chessboard, pluralism in human knowledge, and the limits of our current understanding. Gary Kasparov Sheldrake's appearance on Future Visions Coco Chanel Richard Dawkins interview on Impact Theory Homeopathy The 1001 Nights Compendium of the Malay Archipelago Thomas Merton John AT Robinson William James Alfred Nobel Galvani & Volta Percival Lowell Joseph Needham Les Chants de Maldo...

16 - On the Shadows of Ideas

December 23, 2020 18:00 - 1 hour - 184 MB

Swarm intelligences, science delusions, and sense perception. On this episode, Kris and I discuss morphic resonance, the ten dogmas of modern science, and the alchemical art of memory. Rupert Sheldrake The Analogy of the Television Set Sheldrake's Banned TED Talk Stephen Jay Gould Lewis Thomas Henri Bergson Gilbert Ryle The Persistence of Memory Jean-Baptiste Lamarck E.O. Wilson Novalis Giordano Bruno The Memory Palace Technique Dame Francis Yates Music and mixing by ous/li

15 - This Way to the Egress

December 16, 2020 23:16 - 1 hour - 165 MB

Frauds and hoaxes, showmen and liars, myth makers and nondescripts. What drives the hearts of lifetime cryptozoologists and bridge-sellers? On this episode, Kris and I talk about tolerating your own absurdity, the renaissance men who dabbled in the occult and science, living a mythical life, and the quantum importance of fakery.   Further reading: Baudelaire Charles Fort & Damned Facts Baron de Lahontan Leibniz PT Barnum The Piltdown Man The Dreadnought Hoax Louis de Rougemont Art...

14 - Wonder Strikes Back

December 09, 2020 18:00 - 1 hour - 157 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss the reintroduction of wonder into the world, the evolution of evolution, curiosity in science, rebelling against the priest caste, and the five essential elements of good communication. This one is a lot of fun. What Kris and I are trying to do is apply Fort's radical, positive skepticism to a scientific framework that seems to be stagnating in the face of damned facts. Music and mixing by ous/li.

13 - The Joyful Skeptic

December 02, 2020 18:00 - 58 minutes - 134 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss Charles Fort, the idea of becoming a joyful skeptic (that is, someone who questions with the intention of deepening their understanding of the world), Alfred Russel Wallace, giant squids, paranormal phenomena, urban legends, The Weekly World News, and the relation of the subject to the object. This one goes into some territory that I personally love. There's even a fun "writing" exercise courtesy of Kris. Music and mixing by ous/li.

12 - The Drunk Uncle

November 25, 2020 18:00 - 48 minutes - 112 MB

On this special Thanksgiving episode, Kris and I discuss constructing your own tribe, the importance of the drunk uncle, calories, holiday depression, the Macy's Day Parade, the bizarre reason behind stuffing a turkey, and Paul Tillich's thoughts on grace.

11 - The Beautiful Monsters of Dream

November 18, 2020 17:00 - 1 hour - 137 MB

Welcome to the new feed! On this episode, Kris and I discuss the agency of oceans, the Nazca lines, head jars,  microchips as the dream of a city, Stonehenge, the Blythe Intaglios, projects across time, the arch as a concept, apprenticeship, art as an ascetic practice, how it's all one meditation, Charles Fort, self-expression, and mystery panthers. Robert Smithson Unathi Slasha Our producer: ous/li

10 - The Problem of the Frame

November 15, 2020 05:35 - 44 minutes - 40.5 MB

On this episode, I share some exciting news with Kris and the audience, which leads us to a conversation about Darwin, what happens when we die, and where the "real" America is. Then, Kris brings up an idea that really got my brain firing on all cylinders: the concept of "the frame." What are our artistic frames, the frames through which we see the world, the frames for our everyday life? Is there a way outside the frame? Along the way we talk simplicity, drug dealers, clay, and Cape Horn....

9 - Current Affairs

November 15, 2020 05:32 - 1 hour - 150 MB

On this episode, I relate the story of losing power in my home due to an historic Oklahoma ice storm. After recounting the creeping slow horror of an ice storm, Kris and I discuss the concept of power and electricity. How dependent are we on this modern miracle? How sustainable is it? We talk James Clerk Maxwell, the mystical power of electricity, the work of David Lynch, Kris's close encounter with high voltage, the Spark Ranger, Manly P. Hall, step-down transformers, grounding, and the In...

8 - There Must Be Some Kind of Way Out of Here

November 15, 2020 05:28 - 1 hour - 166 MB

On this episode, Kris and I continue our discussion of empathy. We start off by talking about Spinoza's Ethics, then we cover the ideas of understanding our claws, violence and the sacred, personal sovereignty, response-ability, knowing what day it is, and Peter Singer's tithe. Kris tells a great story about a group of Muslims and a Buddhist monk in Kuala Lumpur, which leads to a dive into the etymology of "alms." How do we break the edicts handed down to us from the modern managerial cast...

7 - The Secret Face of Empathy

November 15, 2020 05:21 - 1 hour - 78.9 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss: James Wright, the etymology of empathy, you can’t take my shoes, a kind moose, difference between empathy and kindness, the wisdom of Vida Blue, is empathy respectful?, the case against middle management, the value of sincerity, swordsmanship without a sword, and Do Every Thing Wrong!   Follow JDO on Twitter: @brbjdo Follow Kris on Twitter: @KrisSaknussemm Music and mixing for this episode: ous/li

6 - There Is No Place That Does Not See You

November 15, 2020 05:17 - 1 hour - 70.4 MB

On this episode, Kris and I talk the equation of mental health with mental illness, rats in cages, the seductive allure of circumstance, the meaning of aftermath, JDO's sordid history, practical suggestions for dealing with depression, and The Archaic Torso of Apollo.    

5 - Don't Let Satan Draw You Too Fast

November 15, 2020 05:12 - 1 hour - 68.3 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss my mescaline-induced alien encounter and strange synchromystic adventures at a mime school in Korea. We also talk the deathbed poetry of Dutch Schultz and the parallels with AI-generated song lyrics. Rounding out the episode is a deep dive into Koro/Shuk Yang ("head of the turtle" syndrome), Marian apparitions, The Jumping Frenchmen of Maine, Strange Tales from a Chinese Studio, and Joni Mitchell. A map of Marian apparitions. Memoirs of Extraordinary Pop...

4 - The Dance Language of Beasts

November 15, 2020 05:07 - 1 hour - 64.3 MB

On this episode, Kris and I talk about the work of Gregory Bateson, schizmogenesis, breaking the barriers of language, hypnosis, the play nature of paranormal phenomena, the magic of dingos, A Pickle for the Knowing Ones, ecstatic states in art, and the pain of initiation. If you enjoy this episode, please follow us on Twitter: David: @brbjdo Kris: @KrisSaknussemm The music and mixing for this episode was performed by ous/li.

3 - The Throne of the Third Heaven

November 15, 2020 04:50 - 45 minutes - 104 MB

On this episode, Kris and I are back to the ongoing conversation about magic and art. We discuss the earth’s blood, the business of metaphor, The Throne of the Third Heaven, a face-tatted trench coat in a house of monsters, free advice about gambling addiction, Terence McKenna, and a Crossroads Man. Follow JDO on twitter: @brbjdo Follow Kris on twitter: @KrisSaknussemm Keep your fingers crossed for a Reverend America reissue at some point. Artists mentioned: James Hampton William Kurel...

2 - Needle Nose Pliers

November 15, 2020 04:46 - 52 minutes - 120 MB

On this episode, Kris and I discuss bringing language into the physical, the sacredness of speech, the transcendence of a blue heron, and how certain objects attain a kind of soul once they are used. What does it mean to verb a name? I also give a little update about the developing mystery surrounding the mental hospital I live near, which involves a force that may be thousands of years old. Please send any thoughts you might have about the content of our show to thebutterflyinyourmouth@gma...

1 - The Nature Theater of Oklahoma

November 15, 2020 04:33 - 54 minutes - 124 MB

On this episode, Kris and I follow up on our idea of writing as explorative rather than expressive. We discuss the sensory impact of Oklahoma, the people in my neighborhood, fitting into a place, performative weirdness versus natural weirdness, Kafka, The Flaming Lips, David Lynch, the musicality of the word "Oklahoma," incorporating words from other languages, and the magic of metaphor. I hope you're enjoying this new show. Kris and I are having a blast.

0 - The Butterfly in Your Mouth

November 15, 2020 04:29 - 44 minutes - 41 MB

Hey everyone, JDO here. Welcome to my brand new podcast NO COUNTRY, which I cohost with cult writer, nature photographer, and "failed anthropologist" Kris Saknussemm. NO COUNTRY is about Magic (from Jungian/Western occult/indigenous perspectives), how to revive books and literature, and why we love America, even though we both feel like strangers here most of the time. This is a podcast that exists because it's a small niche that I hadn't seen filled quite yet: the intersection of magic, bo...

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