NFL: The Dave Dameshek Football Program
902 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 4 years ago - ★★★★★ - 1.3K ratingsDave Dameshek sets his gaze on the NFL landscape to analyze, celebrate and - when necessary - offer improvements to America’s true national pastime from a true fan’s perspective. Dave is frequently joined by players, as well as his NFL Network regulars to talk about the game of football and perhaps more importantly, the game called life. On this podcast, nothing is off-limits... Except some stuff.
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Episodes
DDFP: Hangin' with Steve Smith
December 15, 2011 00:49 - 54 minutesShek and Rank welcome their new pass-catchin' pal, Steve Smith of the Panthers, back to the program to make picks for Week 15's big games and discuss the Heisman Trophy. They also kibitz about LSU/Bama, uniforms, why 'The Notebook' is a good movie and breakfast meat. If this episode was a fruit, it'd be a peach. Or a cherry. Or another good fruit. Have a bite, won't you? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Emergency Podcast System
December 09, 2011 19:07 - 28 minutesShek & Rank deviate from pro football talk to yap with 'NFL Fantasy Live' pal and NBA authority, Matt 'Money" Smith to discuss the mess that was made with the Chris Paul non-trade and the Halos acquisition of Albert Pujols. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Getting on the Tebow bandwagon
December 07, 2011 00:58 - 1 hourIt's episode No. 37 and the guys welcome in fellow 'NFL Fantasy Live' host Michael Fabiano to talk about the fantasy playoffs, Tim Tebow and much more. Plus, the boys look at the playoff picture if the season ended today. Don't worry, the season is not ending today. Handsome Hank also stops by to say Dave's favorite words. Check it out, won't you? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Steve Smith and DeAngelo Hall usher in new era
December 01, 2011 01:23 - 1 hourOn episode 36, the fellas talk about the NFL playoff picture if the season ended today; Tim Tebow; and interview their new buddy, Panthers WR Steve Smith. After that, Rank commandeers the 'cast for the third episode of the Adam Rank Gridiron Podcast for Kids, and he (along with producer Black Tie) land Redskins CB DeAngelo Hall. It’s a swell time, won’t you listen? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Hooey, applesauce and stuffing
November 23, 2011 23:28 - 46 minutesShek and Rank discuss what in the world of pigskin they're thankful for; what'll become of the Bears & Texans without their starting QBs; Thanksgiving side dishes; then, jump into the flux-capacitated DeLorean to next Tuesday. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Jalen Rose settles Magic vs. Michael -- Side A
November 16, 2011 01:04 - 32 minutesShek & Rank cover the week's headlines, including the dawn of the Matt Leinart Era, Mark Sanchez's atrocious play, the AFC West, and David Nelson's pigskin gift for his cheerleader girlfriend; the guys then debate which Keanu QB character was better: Utah or Falco? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Jalen Rose settles Magic vs. Michael -- Side B
November 16, 2011 00:58 - 34 minutesThe fellas welcome Handsome Hank to talk Dolphins, Belichick & Karlos Dansby; then, Rank tracks down Jalen Rose to yap about Magic vs MJ, and after that catches up with Jerome Bettis to investigate the Rams' possible return to LA. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Yup, we're talking Playoffs.
November 08, 2011 23:57 - 1 hourWe are officially at the halfway point of the NFL season so the fellas welcome back Zach “The Blue Horseshoe” Rosenfield of Accuscore.com to look back at the preseason pro-Shek-tions and take a gander at the playoff landscape in both pro and college football. Rank also tries to defend his misguided notion that Magic Johnson was the greatest player in NBA history. It’s a thin slice of heaven, won’t you listen? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: The One with the Theme Songs
November 03, 2011 21:16 - 1 hourDave and Rank welcome in NFL Fantasy Live host Jason Smith to yap about the greatest No. 32 of all-time. And Dave is floored when the best No. 32 was not Jim Brown. From there, they talk about the greatness of the Hartford Whalers uniform, Jets vs. the Bills, the Kardashian marriage and so much more. Won’t you listen? Yes, you will. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Fred Jackson & Jack Youngblood check in -- Side A
October 28, 2011 00:37 - 46 minutesEpisode #31 proved to be too much show for just one podcast, so be sure after you listen to Side A, you flip it over to Side B to hear our discussion with Rank's delightful boyhood hero, the rugged Jack Youngblood. Side A: Rank ambushes the show with his one-on-one interview with Bills star Fred 'Action' Jackson; we also bring in Handsome Hank to yap about the silly controversy surrounding Ndamukong Suh's alleged remarks directed at Matt Ryan; we also talk about Timmy Tebow's short and long...
DDFP: Fred Jackson & Jack Youngblood check in -- Side B
October 28, 2011 00:27 - 33 minutesEpisode #31 proved to be too much show for just one podcast, so be sure after you listen to Side A, you flip it over to Side B to hear our discussion with Rank's delightful boyhood hero, the rugged Jack Youngblood. Side A: Rank ambushes the show with his one-on-one interview with Bills star Fred 'Action' Jackson; we also bring in Handsome Hank to yap about the silly controversy surrounding Ndamukong Suh's alleged remarks directed at Matt Ryan; we also talk about Timmy Tebow's short and long...
DDFP: Dave Karaoke's with TJ Houshmandzadeh...sorta.
October 20, 2011 20:48 - 59 minutesShek & Rank track down Carson Palmer's former teammate/recent workout partner TJ Houshmandzadeh to discuss the state of the new Raider QB's elbow; cleaning his shoes with a Terrible Towel; and what music he listens to when he works out. Plus, the fellas debate the likelihood of Green Bay going undefeated; the Harbaugh/Schwartz Jim-Broglio; and England's own Handsome Hank stops in for a preview of Bucs/Bears and a discussion about the war of words between Rex Ryan & Norv Turner. And to wrap th...
DDFP: SI's Jeff Pearlman and Denver WR Eric Decker get with the Program
October 13, 2011 21:38 - 45 minutesShek & Rank welcome "Sweetness: The Enigmatic Life of Walter Payton" author Jeff Pearlman to discuss the feedback he's gotten for telling the sometimes-dark story of an American legend, plus kibitz about the USFL and condiments; the fellas next yap with one of Tim Tebow's primary targets, Eric Decker; and finally, the DeLorean gets to 88mph to see who wins of this weekend's biggest games. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Talking Quarterbacks with Joe Theismann
October 06, 2011 20:59 - 35 minutesShek & Rank welcome Joe Theismann talk about the good (Aaron Rodgers), the bad (Tony Romo) & the ugly (Brett Favre) of NFL quarterbacking; plus, a visit from Handsome Hank, who reads Favre's incendiary remarks about his successor, then badmouths American snacks; finally, the fellas jump into the DeLorean to see who wins Week 5's biggest games. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Playoffs? You're talking about...playoffs? Side B
September 29, 2011 23:29 - 26 minutesShek & Rank welcome back their handsome and wise colleague, Elliot Harrison, for a two-parter.On Side A, the fellas debate which AFC teams are for real and which will crash and burn ala the Red Sox (speaking of collapses, click here to see which NFL teams Rank says suffered the worst meltdowns ever). After that, Handsome Hank drops by on Side B, the conversation turns to which Pro Football Hall of Fame nominees are most worthy of immediate induction; then, Shek unveils the newest edition of "...
DDFP: Playoffs? You're talking about...playoffs? Side A
September 29, 2011 23:26 - 46 minutesShek & Rank welcome back their handsome and wise colleague, Elliot Harrison, for a two-parter.On Side A, the fellas debate which AFC teams are for real and which will crash and burn ala the Red Sox (speaking of collapses, click here to see which NFL teams Rank says suffered the worst meltdowns ever). After that, Handsome Hank drops by on Side B, the conversation turns to which Pro Football Hall of Fame nominees are most worthy of immediate induction; then, Shek unveils the newest edition of "...
DDFP: Jonah Keri Joins the Program -- Side B
September 22, 2011 22:28 - 25 minutes'The Extra 2%' author/Grantland.com writer/old pal, Jonah Keri, sits in with Shek & Rank for a conversation so rangy we had to cut it into two parts. Among the subjects: is there any player whose injury could cause NFL ratings to dip?; the NCAA's conference shakeup; which NFL team that's considered a contender is least likely to be perceived that way by November; REM's best albums; Romo's lung; Vick's brain; the Giants' lying hearts; and so on. Plus, Shek & Rank jump in the DeLorean to see ...
DDFP: Jonah Keri Joins the Program -- Side A
September 22, 2011 22:11 - 37 minutes'The Extra 2%' author/Grantland.com writer/old pal, Jonah Keri, sits in with Shek & Rank for a conversation so rangy we had to cut it into two parts. Among the subjects: is there any player whose injury could cause NFL ratings to dip?; the NCAA's conference shakeup; which NFL team that's considered a contender is least likely to be perceived that way by November; REM's best albums; Romo's lung; Vick's brain; the Giants' lying hearts; and so on. Plus, Shek & Rank jump in the DeLorean to see wh...
DDFP: Eternal Life and the Nature of Fandom
September 15, 2011 22:59 - 51 minutesShek & Rank welcome the author of 'The Postmortal' / Deadspin writer / all-around swell fella, Drew Magary, to kibbitz about eternal life, rooting for the Vikings, and forcing your kids to cheer for your teams; Shek & Rank also discuss the big stories of NFL Week One, including Romo's choke, the Steelers' defensive collapse, and Chad 85's affection for his new team; the guys then jump in the DeLorean and take it up to 88mph to see which teams win Week Two's biggest games. You'll like it - or...
DDFP: Don Draper gets the boot
September 08, 2011 21:38 - 57 minutesThe NFL season is finally here and Dave and Rank could not be more excited. Well at least Dave is excited, Rank is kind of a pill. The fellas also talk some college football before jetting off into the future to take a look at some of this weekend's games. Give it a whirl, won't you? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Running back U Super Bowl show
September 02, 2011 01:41 - 1 hourElliot Harrison again joins the boys to decide to break down the NFC side of the best tailback franchise in NFL history and then once and for all, just who is the Running Back U. of the NFL. The answer just might surprise you. Also on the show, Dameshek and Rank talk some college football and start the preliminary discussion of the greatest smells in the world. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Running back U of the AFC
August 31, 2011 20:13 - 51 minutesDave Dameshek and Adam Rank discuss which AFC teams had the best running backs of all-time. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The DDFP: The Pro-Shek-tions Show
August 26, 2011 18:19 - 1 hourDave and Rank bring in Zach 'The Blue Horseshoe' Rosenfield of Accuscore.com for a division-by-division forecast of which teams are playoff-bound. Spoiler alert: the Bengals do not figure into that equation Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The DDFP: Talkin' ball with Jamie Dukes
August 25, 2011 20:18 - 44 minutesWith only a fortnight left 'til the season kicks off, Dave and Rank welcome NFL Network/Atlanta Falcon/Florida State Seminole/good guy Jamie Dukes to the studio to kibbitz about Peyton Manning and the Colts' QB situation; Chris Johnson's future in Tennessee; and the Miami Hurricanes' mess. The fellas also throw a pity party for a couple of deserving NFLers. You know who else deserves a pity party? Anyone who doesn't listen to this show. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www....
DDFP: The Blogcast of Eli
August 19, 2011 17:49 - 1 hourOn the heels of Eli Manning's claim that he considers himself among the game's elite QBs, Dave and Rank kibbitz with NFL.com's Elliot 'Pretty Boy' Harrison break down Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Romo, Schaub, and - of course - the Brothers Manning. In addition, Dave presents the Tuck Rule Edition of the "N-if-L". If this episode was a intergalactic bounty hunter, it'd be Boba Fett. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Fantasy Football Primer
August 18, 2011 22:51 - 58 minutesDave Dameshek and Adam Ranks welcome resident NFL.com Fantasy guru Michael Fabiano to cover all of your fantasy football needs. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Episode 17
August 12, 2011 19:26 - 1 hourDave and Rank celebrate the return of football games (albeit of the fake, preseason variety) by welcoming in WWE superstar - and Cleveland native - The Miz to talk his place in wrestling and 'Real World' history, rooting for the Browns, and who'd win a match between him and Peyton Hillis; the fellas then get an in-studio visit from NFL Network colleague, Michelle Beisner, to discuss Tebow vs Orton, teams that may move to LA and handsome QBs. The weekend's here - give your ears the gift of th...
The DDFP: The Preseason Primer
August 11, 2011 20:21 - 54 minutesDave Dameshek and Adam Rank talk some ball with ESPN and Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson as the NFL Preseason is set to kick off Thursday night. Later in the show, the guys break down The Eagles' spoils of riches after yet another big free-agent signing in WR Steve Smith and more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The DDFP: Inside Out with Gil Brandt
August 07, 2011 00:15 - 35 minutesDave Dameshek and Adam Rank bring you part III of their Hall of Fame podcast trilogy as they catch up with former VP of Player Personnel for the Dallas Cowboys Gil Brandt Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: Reminiscing With The Ultimate Raider
August 05, 2011 19:20 - 31 minutesDave Dameshek and Adam Rank kick it in Canton, OH with legendary Raider/Chief running back Marcus Allen. While Rank reminisces of the Raiders' LA glory days, Marcus Allen sheds some light on the accomplishments of his younger brother Damon Allen and how is incredible body of work in the CFL is not represented at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
DDFP: On The Road To Canton
August 04, 2011 21:48 - 56 minutesAlthough a bit punchy from their cross-country redeye flight, Dave and Rank make a Pittsburgh pitstop on their way to Canton for this weekend's Hall of Fame inductions; the guys discuss the NFL's new 'Dream Team' in Philadelphia and what team they think would've been a dream to play for; plus, Dave contends the NFC has at least three teams that are superior to anyone in the AFC; a Cliffs Notes version of where we left off before the lockout. Give this show a gold jacket, 'cause it belongs in...
Football is back ... in case you have not heard
July 28, 2011 18:28 - 42 minutesThat's right, football is back and the fellas could not be more thrilled about it's return. And you notice that nobody ever threatened to walk away from the NFL like the fans of other sports do during a labor strife. And you want to know why? Football is king, that's why. That is why today's show is chalk full of football talk. Who are the front runners for the Super Bowl? What coach is setting himself up for failure? And is Adam Rank's weight balloon beyond healthy levels? All of that in mor...
NFL Match Game and Captain America
July 21, 2011 23:06 - 50 minutesWith the NFL lockout drawing to a close, the boys take a gander at what NFL free agency will look like. Although, only after the fellas decide to take the proceedings outside in the gorgeous California sun — mostly to keep the bronze age alive. The gang also takes a look one of the top summer blockbusters debuting this week, Captain America, and talk about why Superman might be the most overrated superhero of all-time. And finally, the gang looks at the team that might have the best collectio...
Talking James Harrison with Men’s Journal author Paul Solotaroff
July 14, 2011 19:54 - 51 minutesIs it time to start rooting for a new team? The fellas get to the bottom of this James Harrison business by getting the story straight from Men’s Journal writer Paul Solotaroff who opens up about his recent story about the Steelers’ enigmatic linebacker. Is the general public being duped by an elaborate work much like the fans who follow professional wrestling? We get in to that. We also talk a bit about Roger Clemens, Terrelle Pryor and a name of Adam Rank‘s small, lonely fan base. In fact, ...
The DDFP - July 7, 2011
July 06, 2011 20:20 - 40 minutesDave Dameshek and Adam Rank hit 88mph on the flux capacitor and travel into the future! The fellas switch into playoff gear with the NFL Uniform Super Bowl and after much debate, a winner has emerged! Also on tap, the guys are in search of a name for Adam Rank's fanbase to co-exist with the Citizens of the Shek Republic...Will they make it to episode 10, or will they be canceled, who knows? Tune in! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The DDFP - Top 100 reaction podcast No. 10-1
July 02, 2011 19:08 - 10 minutesDave Dameshek and Adam Rank, hosts of next year's Top 100 Players of 2012? Our esteemed host and his trusty sidekick tackle the final results and implore that NFL players are inept at ranking anything, even when it comes to themselves! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Dave Dameshek Football Program - June 30, 2011
June 30, 2011 22:24 - 54 minutesWelcome to episode number eight of the Dave Dameshek Football Program. The fellas discuss who the greatest number eight in NFL history, and conclude that it is Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman. The bigger news is the revealing of the NFL uniform playoff bracket as the guys pick the division winners and wild cards in an attempt to pick the team that has the greatest uniform in the NFL right now. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The DDFP - Top 100 reaction podcast No. 20-11
June 24, 2011 20:46 - 9 minutesWhat could possible cause our esteemed host to nearly walk out on the job? Don’t play coy, you know exactly what it was. Packers QB Aaron Rodgers — the Super Bowl MVP — is ranked No. 11 in the Top 100. You know, that list of the top players of the past year? Yeah, the Super Bowl MVP didn’t crack the Top 10. Hopefully this won’t keep you from listening. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Bonus DDFP! Jason La Canfora turns from football insider to music expert
June 23, 2011 21:50 - 20 minutesThey boys continue their discussion with NFL maven Jason La Canfora. The NFL's top information man dazzles us with his deep knowledge of punk, 80s metal and inter-league baseball. There might have been some football mixed in, too. But to be honest, it was hard to not be impressed by his encyclopedia-like knowledge of music -- even though he sided with Lynyrd Skynyrd over the Allman Brothers. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Classic L.A. Rams jersey talk and Jason La Canfora drops in
June 23, 2011 21:36 - 47 minutesThere is no argument that John Elway is the leader in the clubhouse for NFL players who wore No. 7. Even though there is a half-hearted argument given to Ben Roethlisberger. But is the jersey No. 7 the greatest sports number ever? The gang discusses that and Dave gives his view on who wore No. 7 the best -- Mickey Mantle or Elway. The gang also gets into the business of which Los Angeles Rams jersey is the best of all-time, based off Adam Rank's Pick Six. You might want to sit down for this n...
The DDFP - Top 100 reaction podcast No. 30-21
June 18, 2011 00:04 - 10 minutesDave and Rank go through numbers 31-to-21 on the Top 100 list, including: whether Phil Rivers belongs so far ahead of draft classmates Roethlisberger and Manning; why Arian Foster is so low; and Roddy White vs. Calvin Johnson. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Getting our hopes up for football in L.A.
June 16, 2011 19:20 - 50 minutesDave lambasts Rank for his Pick Six list of the NFL players he'd most like to see win a Super Bowl and offers up some better alternatives; the fellas debate if the Heat would've made the most hated champion in sports history; Dave and Rank choose which of the five teams being talked about for a move to L.A. would make the most sense; and Dave tells a winning tale about his brush with a beer-filled Stanley Cup. Oh, it's sweet. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpod...
The DDFP - Top 100 reaction podcast No. 40-31
June 10, 2011 20:56 - 9 minutesDave and Rank tackle the next 10 players unveiled in the Top 100 players of 2010 list. The two are up-in-arms over the player at No. 32 and another guard at No. 34. Overall, it's a thin slice of heaven - unless you're player No. 32 or 34. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Dave Dameshek Football Program - June 9, 2011
June 09, 2011 19:08 - 51 minutesInteresting coincidence the Congressman Anthony Wiener scandal – aka “Wienergate” – happens to have broken here in the month of June, considering next week marks the 39th anniversary of the Watergate arrests.Since that time, every scandal has had the whole “—gate” thing. Enough is enough. Dave decides once and for all to put this business to rest. Then the gang discuss the worst teams to root for, Plaxico Burress' return, and more in this thin slice of heaven. Learn more about your ...
The DDFP - Top 100 reaction podcast No. 50-41
June 03, 2011 21:28 - 10 minutesDave and Rank hit anger level five with the latest episode of the Top 100, numbers 50-41. Dave is particularly incensed that Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger did not crack the top 40, let alone the top ten. Apparently the players who voted on this did not see Roethlisberger come within two minutes of winning his third Super Bowl. Rank is especially interested in Brian Urlacher and how he will be regarded by Hall of Fame voters when his judgment day comes a-callin.’ Learn more about yo...
The Dave Dameshek Football Program - June 6, 2011
June 02, 2011 19:14 - 48 minutesWith the hateable Heat on their way to an NBA title, Dave & Rank discuss the most despised teams in the NFL; the fellas also review Dave's playoff for the title "NFL QB Franchise", then set up a playoff for which team has had the most good linebackers; Dave announces the best player jersey for a Packers fan to wear; and finally, Handsome Hank pays a visit with his Tweet of the Week. In summation, if you like football, you'll love this podcast. Probably. Learn more about your ad-choi...
The DDFP - Top 100 reaction podcast No. 60-51
May 26, 2011 19:51 - 10 minutesDave and Adam Rank discuss the players coming in 60-51 on the NFL Network's Top 100 players of 2010 list, focusing on the confusing standard that put Marques Colston ahead of 2010 stats leader Brandon Lloyd while leaving the likes of Stevie Johnson and Mike Wallace completely out. The fellas also analyze whether Matt Ryan is deserving of being ranked at 52 when Eli Manning and his Super Bowl ring are nowhere to be found. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastne...
The Dave Dameshek Football Program - May 26, 2011
May 26, 2011 19:09 - 52 minutesInspired by the redemptive powers of spring, Dave alters history in favor of Dannys White and Marino in the latest installment of the "N if L". Then, on the heels of Ray Lewis' violent vision for a football-less future, Dave and podcast chum Adam Rank discuss the best apocalyptic movies ever. Dave, Rank, and Necktie Milner also debate which NFL franchise has had the most great quarterbacks. And finally, Handsome Hank reads tweets from Pittsburgh's outside linebackers responding to the so-c...
The DDFP - Top 100 reaction podcast No. 70-61
May 19, 2011 20:17 - 7 minutesIt is the first special edition of the Dave Dameshek Football Program, as Dave’s critiques have driven him to offer you his instant opinion on the NFL’s Top 100 show on Sunday night on NFL Network. In this show, Dave and Adam Rank take a look at this week’s reveal, and talk about some of the biggest surprises of the week. To make a long story short, it’s a thin slice of heaven. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
The Dave Dameshek Football Program - May 19, 2011
May 19, 2011 18:30 - 52 minutesEpisode 2 of the Dave Dameshek Football Program opens with a shot across the bow to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell by talking about basketball. Dave suggests how LeBron James could have been a hero to the working man when he decided to take his talents to South Beach. While former LA Rams fan Adam Rank empathizes with the plight of the Seattle Sonics fans who are watching the Oklahoma City Thunder. The fellas then hash out the toughest names in NFL history, and then continue the debate of th...