Fresh news that Donald Trump was hospitalized after contracting coronavirus is fodder for a discussion about loving kindness toward harmful people and the generational traumas of both enabling and suffering oppression. Amy and Don talk about the importance of making the negative impact of power visible, because you can't change what you won't acknowledge.


In this episode Amy incorrectly attributes an article on power. The article, written by Jean Baker Miller in 2010, is included in the resource links below


Additional resources:

"How Trump Could Have Exposed Biden and Others to COVID at the Debate" (Scientific American, by Tanya Lewis, October 5, 2020)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-trump-could-have-exposed-biden-and-others-to-covid-at-the-debate/ 

"Here's a timeline of Trump's Covid-19 illness so far" (CNN, by , October 5, 2020)
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-covid-19-updates-monday/h_af259942e082eb5da10230e33f2da6fe

Street Lovingkindness Video Series (Sharon Salzberg)
https://www.sharonsalzberg.com/street-lovingkindness-video-series/ 

"A 'Karen' by Any Other Name ..." (Maureen Walker, October 1, 2020)
https://maureenwalker.com/a-karen-by-any-other-name/ 

"Telling the Truth About Power" (Women & Therapy Journal, by Jean Baker Miller, November 29, 2010)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02703140802146282 

"Bias in your body" (My Racist Friend podcast, May 13, 2020)
https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-tdjw6-dc5097 

"Clear Language on Slavery" (Twitter, @AbsurdistWords, June 24, 2020)
https://twitter.com/absurdistwords/status/1275896853326897153 

On October 8, 2020, Don and Amy will participate in a virtual session at the Flyover Podcast Festival, hosted online by Dimension Mill. In their 2p session—"Sharing the Messy Parts of Relationships"—they will talk about how they started this podcast, the impact it has had, and what they hope to accomplish by continuing to share their conversations.

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