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Meg and Phil took it in turns to carry and birth their babies. Two of their friends are donor dads to their 3 kids. We chat about their birthing experiences, some of the adversity they’ve faced, and why they watched Squid Games with their kids - not the 4 year old.

The relationships they nurture with their children and extended family are beautiful and admirable. And they answer my questions - naive and otherwise - with honesty and integrity.



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