More Than A Muse
330 episodes - English - Latest episode: 21 days ago - ★★★★★ - 18 ratingsWelcome to MORE THAN A MUSE, a weekly podcast where we explore the lives of women artists, musicians, writers, sculptors, and more. Join Stauney (a graphic designer) and Sadie (a singer-songwriter) EVERY MONDAY as we reframe art history and pop culture with feminism, empowering women to be educated, unapologetically angry, and champion those whom history has forgotten. Through in-depth historical discussions and pop culture chats, we spotlight unsung heroines, all while challenging the status quo. It's time to remember every woman artist as 'More Than A Muse'.
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Romance Novels Aren't "Trashy"
July 12, 2021 12:59 - 59 minutesRomance Novels are continuously referred to as "trashy" books and are probably the most controversial genre in literature. But why is that? Although there may be a slew of reasons we give ourselves, in reality, it's mostly sexism. In this episode, we dive into the history, stigma, criticism, and praise surrounding the romance novel genre, and all the reasons we should love them for what they are, and stop describing them as something they are not. Read the article "The Romance Publishing Indu...
The Dance of Lights & Laws: Loïe Fuller
July 05, 2021 15:56 - 55 minutesIn this Episode, Sadie introduces us to the little-known Loie Fuller (also known as Louie Fuller or Loïe Fuller), a pioneer for modern dance, theatrical lighting, and began the discussion and advocacy of artists owning their art. We dive into the little that is known of her life, her creation and the performance of the Serpentine Dance, her many imitators, and more. We also dive a lot into the tricky world of copyright and "owning your work" that surrounds the art world and how it relates to ...
Loie Fuller: Pioneer of Modern Dance, Theatrical Lighting & Copyright Laws
July 05, 2021 15:56 - 55 minutesIn this Episode, Sadie introduces us to the little-known Loie Fuller (also known as Louie Fuller or Loïe Fuller), a pioneer for modern dance, theatrical lighting, and began the discussion and advocacy of artists owning their art. We dive into the little that is known of her life, her creation and the performance of the Serpentine Dance, her many imitators, and more. We also dive a lot into the tricky world of copyright and "owning your work" that surrounds the art world and how it relates to ...
The Power of Fangirls with Emily from The New Nine
June 30, 2021 20:40 - 36 minutesFor our June book, we read "Fangirls: Scenes from Modern Music Culture" by Hannah Ewens. In this episode, we are joined by Emily from The New Nine, to discuss the book, fangirls, the future of fangirls, and the music industry! Whether or not you've read the book, this is a super fun discussion that you'll all enjoy! Check out Emily's interview with Hannah Ewens here Follow @thenewnine9 Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
JUNE BOOK: "Fangirls" by Hannah Ewens with The New Nine
June 30, 2021 20:40 - 36 minutesFor our June book, we read "Fangirls: Scenes from Modern Music Culture" by Hannah Ewens. In this episode, we are joined by Emily from The New Nine, to discuss the book, fangirls, the future of fangirls, and the music industry! Whether or not you've read the book, this is a super fun discussion that you'll all enjoy! Check out Emily's interview with Hannah Ewens here Follow @thenewnine9 Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse....
"Fangirls" by Hannah Ewens (with The New Nine)
June 30, 2021 20:40 - 36 minutesFor our June book, we read "Fangirls: Scenes from Modern Music Culture" by Hannah Ewens. In this episode, we are joined by Emily from The New Nine, to discuss the book, fangirls, the future of fangirls, and the music industry! Whether or not you've read the book, this is a super fun discussion that you'll all enjoy! Check out Emily's interview with Hannah Ewens here Follow @thenewnine9 Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse....
The Dichotomy of Hollywood Starlets: Marilyn Monroe, Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly, & Doris Day
June 28, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourWe've all heard of the Starlets from the Hollywood Golden Age and they've reached a level of icon that is completely unheard of and unmatched even today. However, do we know about their lives? Do we ever consider the nuances of the way they're perceived? In this episode, we dive into the lives of four of the world's biggest stars, Marilyn Monroe, Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly, and Doris Day. We also talk about how these four women were shoved into stereotypes, with contracts stricter than the D...
Sonia Delaunay: The Queen of Abstract Avant-Garde
June 21, 2021 18:16 - 1 hourThis week we talked about the COMPLETELY underrated Sonia Delaunay. Not only is she the star of a lovely backstory with a charming relationship, but she also is the mother of the Orphism art movement that would go on to inspire the future of abstract art. If that wasn't enough, she also became a set, costume, and fashion designer, starting multiple companies and even creating textiles that most likely influenced the Bauhaus school weaving style that became famous. The blog post about Sonia D...
Fusion of Fashion and Fabric: Sonia Delaunay
June 21, 2021 18:16 - 1 hourThis week, Stauney shines a light on the immensely underappreciated Sonia Delaunay. Her story isn't just captivating due to her engaging personal life and delightful partnership, but also because she spearheaded the Orphism art movement, setting the stage for the evolution of abstract art. Stauney and Sadie discuss beyond her artistic contributions where Delaunay made her mark as a versatile designer, venturing into set, costume, and fashion design. She founded several companies and crafted t...
Weaving Women: History of Textile Design
June 14, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourIn this episode, Stauney and Sadie dive into the history of textile design and designers from the medieval ages (and earlier) up to the famous Bauhaus School program. We also talk about the implications of craft vs art, high vs low art, and how sexism has seeped into our very definitions of art itself. Here are some of the articles referenced: https://www.sothebys.com/en/articles/textiles-the-art-of-womens-work https://www.frieze.com/article/artificial-divide-between-fine-art-and-textiles-gen...
Julie Andrews: Practically Perfect in Every Way
June 07, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourIn this week's episode, Stauney delves into the life and achievements of Julie Andrews. From her Broadway beginnings to iconic roles in Mary Poppins and The Sound of Music, and her awards, she stands out as a significant figure in entertainment. Beyond her film presence, there's much to explore about her personal journey. Stauney and Sadie cover her life, accomplishments, movie roles, books, health, and more, offering insights into the woman behind the fame. Learn more about your ad choices. ...
Dame Julie Andrews: Actress, Singer, Author & Disney Legend
June 07, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourIn this week's episode, we dive into the life and accomplishments of the beloved Dame Julie Andrews. With an early start in Broadway to groundbreaking roles in Mary Poppins and the Sound of Music, to her numerous awards and accomplishments, she truly is a dazzling and phenomenal woman, worthy of all the attention of the week! Although you may have seen her in a movie, you probably don't know much about her personal life. We dive into her life, accomplishments, movie roles, books, health, and ...
Yes, a whole episode for Sour
May 31, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourWe couldn't help ourselves. Here's a whole episode dedicated to our thoughts on Olivia Rodrigio's debut album "Sour." We talk through each song, our favorites that we've had on repeat, her musical influences, our hopes for her future releases and career, and the impact this debut album is already having on our culture and society. I've you've been listening as much as we have, you don't want to miss it! Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit mega...
Jane Austen: The Greatest Romance Author of All Time
May 24, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourIn this episode, we discuss the popular and classic romance author, Jane Austen. We dive into the mysterious history of the woman herself, the publishing of her novels during her life, and post-humorously, as well as a little about the movies and books themselves, and why Austen is able to claim such notoriety now as an author and taste-maker for the turn of the century. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast Learn m...
The ______ Girl: Female Tropes in Television and Film
May 17, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourIn this episode, we're talking all about the common tropes of women in television and movies. From the cool girl to the manic pixie dream girl, we talk all about these different tropes, how they've evolved, what makes them sexist or empowering, and more. Check out the youtube channel "The Take" for their trope playlist Film Theorists High School Musical video Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast Learn more about y...
Patsy Cline: The First Country to Pop Crossover Artist
May 10, 2021 06:00 - 54 minutesThis week, we talk about the phenomenal country/pop singer Patsy Cline! Although she died early in a plane crash, her legacy was long-lasting and very influential for the future of all country/pop artists to follow, paving the way for women in country music for decades to come. We talk about her early childhood, her resilience in starting and continuing her career despite numerous setbacks, and more! Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram...
Patsy Cline
May 10, 2021 06:00 - 53 minutes - 49.4 MBThe First Country to Pop Crossover: Patsy Cline
May 10, 2021 06:00 - 54 minutesThis week, Sadie spotlights the incredible country/pop artist Patsy Cline. Despite her tragic early death in a plane crash, Cline's enduring legacy has significantly shaped the landscape for future country/pop musicians, especially pioneering the path for women in country music for generations. Stauney and Sadie explore her early life, the remarkable determination she showed in launching and sustaining her career through numerous challenges, and much more! Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamu...
The Source of Artistic Inspiration
May 03, 2021 17:59 - 1 hourIn this episode, Stauney walks through her project on Artistic Inspiration and the different theories and facets throughout history that contribute to our ideas about art and the source of inspiration. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast BECOME A PATREON MEMBER Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Where Does Artistic Inspiration Come From?
May 03, 2021 17:59 - 1 hourIn this episode, Stauney walks through her project on Artistic Inspiration and the different theories and facets throughout history that contribute to our ideas about art and the source of inspiration. Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Culinary Cooking on Tiktok with Chef Kelsey
April 26, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourIn this episode, Stauney and Sadie are joined by the TikTok sensation, Chef Kelsey! Not only is Kelsey an extremely talented Chef with various degrees from culinary school and years of professional training and experience, but she also is an incredible content creator, building her platform of 400k followers after losing her job during the pandemic. We had a lovely conversation about various topics with her, and know you'll all enjoy it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/ad...
Interview with Chef Kelsey
April 26, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 58.7 MBIn this episode, Stauney and Sadie are joined by the TikTok sensation, Chef Kelsey! Not only is Kelsey an extremely talented Chef with various degrees from culinary school and years of professional training and experience, but she also is an incredible content creator, building her platform of 400k followers after losing her job during the pandemic. We had a lovely conversation about various topics with her, and know you'll all enjoy it!
Interview with Chef Kelsey: Culinary Chef and TikTok Creator
April 26, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourIn this episode, Stauney and Sadie are joined by the TikTok sensation, Chef Kelsey! Not only is Kelsey an extremely talented Chef with various degrees from culinary school and years of professional training and experience, but she also is an incredible content creator, building her platform of 400k followers after losing her job during the pandemic. We had a lovely conversation about various topics with her, and know you'll all enjoy it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/ad...
Nadia and Lili Boulanger: Sister Composers
April 19, 2021 17:31 - 52 minutesIn this episode, we're talking about Nadia and Lili Boulanger, two sisters from 19th Century France who made their mark on the history of music composition. Lili was the first female winner of the Prix de Rome composition prize, with her sister Nadia not only being the first woman to conduct many major orchestras in America and Europe but also spending a lifetime teaching music to some of the most notable composers in history. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our bookl...
Interview with Brina Kay: Nashville Based Singer & Songwriter
April 12, 2021 06:00 - 59 minutesIn this episode, we are joined by Brina Kay, a Nashville Based Singer and Songwriter. We discuss how she got into songwriting, her impromptu move to Nashville and the music scene there, women in country music, her recent song releases, upcoming EP, and more! This is a great episode to inspire you to follow your dreams, just take the chances you've been hoping to take and continue to be inspired to create art. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on ...
Following Your Dreams to Nashville with Brina Kay
April 12, 2021 06:00 - 59 minutesIn this episode, we are joined by Brina Kay, a Nashville-based singer and Songwriter. We discuss how she got into songwriting, her impromptu move to Nashville and the music scene there, women in country music, her recent song releases, her upcoming EP, and more! This is a great episode to inspire you to follow your dreams, just take the chances you've been hoping to take and continue to be inspired to create art. Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast Learn more about your ad choices....
Hilma Af Klint: The First Abstract Painter
April 05, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourNo title can do this one justice. Hilma Af Klint was a Swedish painter whose abstract paintings, a collection of 2000 works, were kept hidden (per her request) until 20 years after her death. Her mystic religious practices and divinely inspired painting techniques were unheard of and unknown at the time, leaving her as the earliest abstract painter known to humankind, outdating even Kadinsky himself who is often referred to as the pioneer of abstract art. Join us in learning more about this f...
Decades-Sealed Vault of Abstract Art: Hilma Af Klint
April 05, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourThis week, Stauney talks all about Hilma Af Klint, a Swedish painter whose abstract paintings, a collection of 2000 works, were kept hidden (per her request) until 20 years after her death. Her mystic religious practices and divinely inspired painting techniques were unheard of and unknown at the time, leaving her as the earliest abstract painter known to humankind, outdating even Kandinsky himself who is often referred to as the pioneer of abstract art. Stauney and Sadie discuss this famous ...
Britney Spears: The Pop Princess
March 29, 2021 17:06 - 1 hourIn this episode, we discuss Britney Spears, the pop princess icon who has been in the news recently due to the Hulu Documentary discussing her conservatorship and the #FreeBritney movement. However, in this episode, we dive into Spears's long legacy and career in the pop music industry with her first record at only age 15 and the numerous title, acclaim, awards, and records she has accumulated, making her one of the main reasons pop music exists the way it does today. Want to check out some o...
The History of Sexism at The Grammy's
March 22, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourThis week, Stauney and Sadie talk about the Grammy's! We cover the top awards received, a brief history of this major award show, some of their controversies, how nominations work, and more! It's a great episode full of lots of talk about sexism and the music industry as a whole. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast BECOME A PATREON MEMBER Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Grammy's
March 22, 2021 06:00 - 1 hourThis week, Stauney and Sadie talk about the Grammy's! We cover the top awards received, a brief history of this major award show, some of their controversies, how nominations work, and more! It's a great episode full of lots of talk about sexism and the music industry as a whole. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast BECOME A PATREON MEMBER Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Espionage, Erotica, & Enlightenment: Aphra Behn
March 15, 2021 13:25 - 1 hourIn this episode, Sadie talks about Aphra Behn, a fascinating and underrated female playwright and poet from England in the 1600s. As one of the first women to make a living wage off her writings, and a career full of calling out sexism, racism, and other political scandals, she is a phenomenal character from history that is too often overlooked. Stauney and Sadie dive into her works, their effect, the inherent sexism that caused so many of her works to be criticized, and her lasting impact to...
Aphra Behn: Government Spy, Playwright, and Activist
March 15, 2021 13:25 - 1 hourIn this episode, we talk about Aphra Behn, a fascinating and underrated female playwright and poet from England in the 1600s. As one of the first women to make a living wage off her writings, and a career full of calling out sexism, racism, and other political scandals, she is a phenomenal character from history that is too often overlooked. We dive into her works, their effect, the inherent sexism that caused so many of her works to be criticized, and her lasting impact today. Follow Us on ...
Fulfilling Our Childhood Dreams
March 08, 2021 07:00 - 1 hourHappy International Women's Day! With every episode dedicated to celebrating women in the arts, we couldn't be happier to continue doing what we do. In this episode, we went a little of a different route and decided to talk about our "journey" to where we are now within the arts. We dive a bit deeper into how we got started in music and design, the steps we took, how we decided to go to college, and more. If you're simply curious about why we chose our careers, maybe debating art school yours...
Fulfilling our Childhood Dreams
March 08, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 67.7 MBHappy International Women's Day! With every episode dedicated to celebrating women in the arts, we couldn't be happier to continue doing what we do. In this episode, we went a little of a different route and decided to talk about our "journey" to where we are now within the arts. We dive a bit deeper into how we got started in music and design, the steps we took, how we decided to go to college, and more. If you're simply curious about why we chose our careers, maybe debating art school you...
Guerrilla Girls: The Secret Feminist Art Society
March 01, 2021 07:00 - 1 hourIn this episode, we talk about the Guerrilla Girls, the anonymous group of women known for their protest art devoted to fighting racism and sexism in the art world. The group formed in the 1980s to campaign for changes that needed to be made. We talk about why they felt they needed to form, some of their most famous pieces, the effective methods they used to share their message, and some of the inner-group controversies. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Fo...
Guerrilla Girls: The Secret Feminist Society of the Art World
March 01, 2021 07:00 - 1 hourIn this episode, we talk about the Guerrilla Girls, the anonymous group of women known for their protest art devoted to fighting racism and sexism in the art world. The group formed in the 1980s to campaign for changes that needed to be made. We talk about why they felt they needed to form, some of their most famous pieces, the effective methods they used to share their message, and some of the inner-group controversies. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Fo...
The Iconic Power Couples of the Arts
February 22, 2021 07:00 - 59 minutesIn this episode, we highlight some of the ideal couples from different periods throughout all of the arts. We talk about the tumultuous, but the still aspirational relationship of Deigo Riveria and Frida Khalo, the ADORABLE life-long love between Johnny Cash and June Carter, and some other artists and celebrity couples we can't get enough of. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast BECOME A PATREON MEMBER Learn more a...
Nora Holt: The Harlem Composer, Critic, & Wild Socialite
February 15, 2021 07:00 - 52 minutesIn this episode, we introduce a gem of the Harlem Renaissance, Nora Holt! Holt was an American singer, composer, and music critic, who was born in Kansas and was actually the first African American to receive a master's degree in the United States. She is known for composing over 200 musical compositions that were stolen, as well as her wild social life that was often the talk of the town. She was married 5 times, performed across the world, and eventually was the first African American woman...
Shaping the Wild Sound & Society of Harlem: Nora Holt
February 15, 2021 07:00 - 52 minutesIn this episode, Sadie introduces a gem of the Harlem Renaissance, Nora Holt! Holt was an American singer, composer, and music critic, who was born in Kansas and was actually the first African American to receive a master's degree in the United States. She is known for composing over 200 musical compositions that were stolen, as well as her wild social life which was often the talk of the town. She was married 5 times, performed across the world, and eventually was the first African American ...
Margaret Keane: Big Eyes & Big Lies
February 12, 2021 07:00 - 52 minutesSlight Trigger: We do discuss a very unhappy and an emotionally abusive marriage. In this BONUS episode, we expand on Margaret Keane's insane story of her husband taking credit for her work for many many years that resulted in a lawsuit and a paint-off in the courtroom to prove she was the real artist. We discuss her early life, the whole scandal and scam of it all, and the truth and lies behind the movie directed by Tim Burton about her story. Want to check out some of our favorite books? Ch...
A Bad Mix of Misogyny & Marriage
February 08, 2021 07:00 - 59 minutesIn this episode, we talk about some of the art/historic couples that were not very lucky when it came to sexism within their marriage. We start off with a brief discussion about a scientist duo, Albert Einstein, and his wife Mileva Marić Einstein. We also discuss Françoise Gilot and Pablo Picasso, and Lee Krasner and Jackson Pollock. We also briefly overview many other women from the arts and more industries who were severely uncredited or even stolen from by their male counterparts. Here are...
A bad mix of misogyny & marriage
February 08, 2021 07:00 - 58 minutes - 53.7 MBIn this episode, we talk about some of the art/historic couples that were not very lucky when it came to sexism within their marriage. We start off with a brief discussion about a scientist duo, Albert Einstein, and his wife Mileva Marić Einstein. We also discuss Françoise Gilot and Pablo Picasso, and Lee Krasner and Jackson Pollock. We also briefly overview many other women from the arts and more industries who were severely uncredited or even stolen from by their male counterparts. Here a...
Gail Anderson: Graphic Designer, Writer & Educator
February 01, 2021 07:05 - 1 hourIn this episode, we discuss Gail Anderson, a graphic designer, writer, and educator. Gail Anderson is by far one of the most notable black graphic designers and is responsible for continuing to push the design career field forward into what it is today. We talk a lot about the short history of graphic design, its many issues with diversity, Gail Anderson's life, career, legacy and more. Want to check out some of our favorite books (including Gail Anderson's)? Check out our booklist Follow Us...
Tamara de Lempicka: The Lady in the Green Bugatti
January 25, 2021 07:00 - 53 minutesIn this episode, we discuss Tamara de Lempicka, the main artist of the art deco movement whose self-portrait in a green Bugatti was famously on the cover of Die Dame, a Paris fashion magazine. We discuss her early life, her family, her infamous partying among the elite, and her impressive career and legacy. Want to buy books about Tamara de Lempicka? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast BECOME A PATREON MEMBER Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone....
Women Music Producers with Becky Willard
January 18, 2021 07:00 - 59 minutesIn the episode, Sadie and Stauney are joined by Becky Willard, owner, and producer of Vox Fox Productions! Becky shares how she started producing music, her tops tips for future music producers or artists working with a producer for the first time, what it's like being a female music producer, and more! Check out Becky Willard and Vox Fox @voxfox2 Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast BECOME A PATREON MEMBER Learn m...
Interview with Becky Willard: Owner and Producer of Vox Fox Productions
January 18, 2021 07:00 - 59 minutesIn the episode, Sadie and Stauney are joined by Becky Willard, owner, and producer of Vox Fox Productions! Becky shares how she started producing music, her tops tips for future music producers or artists working with a producer for the first time, what it's like being a female music producer, and more! Check out Becky Willard and Vox Fox @voxfox2 Want to check out some of our favorite books? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @morethanamuse.podcast BECOME A PATREON MEMBER Learn m...
History of the nine Muses: Goddesses of the Arts, Music, Poetry and Sciences.
January 11, 2021 07:00 - 50 minutes - 46.1 MBIn this episode, Stauney and Sadie dive into the history of the word 'muse,' the nine muses of Greek Mythology, and how the idea of a muse has changed over time. We are obviously not Greek Mythology experts, but we hope you enjoy this nice conversation as we talk more about how women are viewed in different periods of time, and how we can empower ourselves and others to be "more than a muse." Want to check out some books about the muses? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @more...
History of the Nine Muses: Goddesses of the Arts, Music, Poetry and Sciences
January 11, 2021 07:00 - 51 minutesIn this episode, Stauney and Sadie dive into the history of the word 'muse,' the nine muses of Greek Mythology, and how the idea of a muse has changed over time. We are obviously not Greek Mythology experts, but we hope you enjoy this nice conversation as we talk more about how women are viewed in different periods of time, and how we can empower ourselves and others to be "more than a muse." Want to check out some books about the muses? Check out our booklist Follow Us on Instagram @moretha...
Magic Mushrooms & Bunny Tales: Beatrix Potter
January 04, 2021 07:00 - 58 minutesAlthough well known for her beloved tale and illustrations of "Peter Rabbit," Beatrix Potter had a long life of different interests that led her to her place as a renowned illustrator, author, mycologist, and farmer. In this episode, Stauney and Sadie discuss Potter's early life, her passion for animals and the outdoors, her parent's wealth and their refusal of her engagements, and her eventual death and the legacy she left behind. Want to buy books by/about Beatrix Potter? Check out our book...