Money Talkers
279 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 2 years ago - ★★★★★ - 136 ratingsDid your parents talk to you about Money? Entrepreneurship? Successful Mindsets? Personal Finance? Oh, that's right, you learned it in school. Wait, What? You didn't? Well, then you must be teaching all of these subjects to your kids. Oh, you're having a hard time talking to your kids about Money? Well you're not alone.
The two most anxiety inducing subjects for parents to talk to the kids about are the "birds and the bees" and money. Listen to the Money Talkers with your host Cody Loughlin as we break down how the high achievers in society were able to overcome the same missing talks that you had and how they are raising their children. You'll get amazing information, useful tactics, mindset secrets and so much more from award winning entrepreneurs, YouTube stars, Forbes 500 winners, best selling authors and so much more.... At the end of this podcast you won't just learn, you'll be armed with actionable conversation so that you and your family can re-write your money story as Money Talkers!!
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Brain Food - High Impact Interview with Jordan Pendleton
August 21, 2020 09:00 - 19 minutes - 17.5 MBJordan Pendleton is passionate about exploring and becoming the best version of herself in every area of her life. After four years into starting a successful business as a financial planner, Jordan quickly began to realize the importance of focusing on what authentic success and wealth truly meant to her. Now, Jordan is all about engaging the money conversation from a whole new angle and helping Millennial Leaders and entrepreneurs to realign their mindsets, their decisions, and their live...
Money Problem Manifestation - Full Interview with Jordan Pendleton
August 20, 2020 09:00 - 41 minutes - 38 MBJordan Pendleton is passionate about exploring and becoming the best version of herself in every area of her life. After four years into starting a successful business as a financial planner, Jordan quickly began to realize the importance of focusing on what authentic success and wealth truly meant to her. Now, Jordan is all about engaging the money conversation from a whole new angle and helping Millennial Leaders and entrepreneurs to realign their mindsets, their decisions, and their live...
The Side Effect of Delayed Gratification - High Impact Interview with Mike Oddo
August 18, 2020 09:00 - 16 minutes - 15.4 MBThe Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough. Take the earbuds out, turn speakers down, and have weekly money talks with your kids so you can open the lifelong relationship of talking about money with them.
Leaving a Legacy - Shifting Generational Opportunity: Interview with Mike Oddo
August 17, 2020 09:00 - 35 minutes - 32.8 MBToday's episode with Mike Oddo covers the topics that usually aren't talked about.. the positives behind failing, the hardships and victories with decision making regardless of how difficult or messy they may be, and the legacies we leave behind for our children. Mike Oddo is an iconic investor and entrepreneur, who has generated over 10 million leads for real estate agents in North America, founded Market Maker, making INC. 500/5000 list of fastest growing privately held companies in the U...
Knowledge is Finite - High Impact Interview with Tasha Chen
August 14, 2020 09:00 - 16 minutes - 15.1 MBThe Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough. Take the earbuds out, turn speakers down, and have weekly money talks with your kids so you can open the lifelong relationship of talking about money with them.
Creating Financial Abundance in an Easy and Relaxed Way - Interview with Tasha Chen
August 14, 2020 01:02 - 35 minutes - 32.1 MBTasha Chen is a highly accomplished businesswoman who built a 7 figure buisness... only to lose it all. This isn't the first time we've heard something like this happening on The Money Talkers Podcast, so you've got to tune in to hear how she recovered from that loss, and then went on to build her success up again and how she is guiding others along a relaxed path to financial abundance. Tasha Chen is an international speaker, author and business mentor who works with organizations and indi...
Shifting Language & Money Positivity - High Impact Interview with Mike Zeller
August 11, 2020 09:00 - 14 minutes - 13.2 MBThe Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough. Take the earbuds out, turn speakers down, and have weekly money talks with your kids so you can open the lifelong relationship of talking about money with them.
The Steps to Fulfillment - Interview with Mike Zeller
August 10, 2020 09:00 - 39 minutes - 36.4 MBTo book Mike on your next podcast, contact: Goldyn Moreno at [email protected] Visit Mike's website @ www.mikezeller.com IG: michaelrzeller
The Steps to Fulfillment - Interview with Mark Zeller
August 10, 2020 09:00 - 39 minutes - 36.4 MBTo book Mike on your next podcast, contact: Goldyn Moreno at [email protected] Visit Mike's website @ www.mikezeller.com IG: michaelrzeller
Budgeting with Core Values in Mind - High Impact Interview with Dan Harrison
August 07, 2020 09:00 - 9 minutes - 9.08 MBThe Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough. Take the earbuds out, turn speakers down, and have weekly money talks with your kids so you can open the lifelong relationship of talking about money with them.
A Half a Million Flop Turned Around - Trading Time for Money - Interview with Dan Harrison
August 06, 2020 09:00 - 28 minutes - 26.1 MBIn this episode, Dan Harrison, co-founder of Sogo, Creator of A Course In Conscious Wealth joins us to give his insight on how the evolution of money, time, and working concepts throughout his twenties and into parenting. Dan is a business coach for the Intuitive Entrepreneurs and has worked with over 1,500 individuals and couples to help them transform their relationship with money and build online businesses. Dan works remotely from Kelowna BC and spends most of his spare time either hang...
You Are a Gift - Approaching Wealth - High Impact Interview with Sensei Victoria Whitfield
August 04, 2020 09:00 - 12 minutes - 11.2 MBThe Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough. Take the earbuds out, turn speakers down, and have weekly money talks with your kids so you can open the lifelong relationship of talking about money with them.
Take Your Medicine and Get Out of Your Shell - Full Interview with Sensei Victoria Whitfield
August 03, 2020 09:00 - 47 minutes - 43.8 MBJust for today, I will not worry. Just for today, I will not anger. Just for today, I will be grateful. Just for today, I will be kind to myself and every living being. Just for today, I will be honest. These five principles will change your life... Victoria literally knows what it's like to feel stuck at work. Back in 2010, she missed her window of opportunity to take care of herself at work, putting tasks and productivity before her health. This oversight resulted in her fingers being...
The World is Full of Opportunities - Evan Johnson High Impact Series
July 31, 2020 09:00 - 19 minutes - 17.5 MBThe Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough. Take the earbuds out, turn speakers down, and have weekly money talks with your kids so you can open the lifelong relationship of talking about money with them.
The Path to Success - Entrepreneur How To with Evan Johnson
July 30, 2020 09:00 - 45 minutes - 41.6 MBIn this interview with host of Path to Podcast Success, Evan Johnson, we talk about the steps to not only becoming an entrepreneur, but the key differences between successful businesses and jobs. Evan Johnson is the host and founder of Path to Podcast Success. His mission is to help as many entrepreneurs as possible share their unique message while expanding their audience exponentially- all through a successful podcast. In the Path to Podcast Success community of podcasts there have been o...
We've Only Got Ten Years to Live - High Impact Interview with Kalena Reynolds
July 29, 2020 20:32 - 15 minutes - 14.5 MBThe Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough. Take the earbuds out, turn speakers down, and have weekly money talks with your kids so you can open the lifelong relationship of talking about money with them.
Sixteen and a JrPreneur - Interview with Kalena Reynolds
July 27, 2020 09:00 - 37 minutes - 34 MBKalena Reynolds is the first young entrepreneur to join us on the podcast! Today for this full interview, she is sharing her steps to becoming an entrepreneur, her inspirations, and her goals. Kalena is a 16 year old entrepreneur with a goal to teach kids and teens all of the necessary skills to be successful in life and the topics educators are not teaching in school. With all of this in mind, she created JrPreneur.
Get a Coach and Seek Mentoring - High Impact Interview with Klaas Van Oosterhout
July 24, 2020 09:00 - 19 minutes - 17.7 MBKlaas van Oosterhout is an entrepreneur dad in Leganes, Spain. He entered the world of coaching 1 year ago and has since helped thousands of his fellow entrepreneur dads achieve balance in their lives. Knowing exactly what they want in life, how to go after it and whom they must become to achieve this. Click here for more: https://becomeafearlessfather.com/ Klaas van Oosterhout is an entrepreneur dad in Leganes, Spain. He entered the world of coaching 1 year ago and has since helped th...
Time Blocking Scheduling - Balancing Family and Business - Full Interview with Klaas Van Oosterhout
July 23, 2020 09:00 - 42 minutes - 38.9 MBKlaas van Oosterhout is an entrepreneur dad in Leganes, Spain. He entered the world of coaching 1 year ago and has since helped thousands of his fellow entrepreneur dads achieve balance in their lives. Knowing exactly what they want in life, how to go after it and whom they must become to achieve this. Click here for more: https://becomeafearlessfather.com/ Klaas van Oosterhout is an entrepreneur dad in Leganes, Spain. He entered the world of coaching 1 year ago and has since helped ...
Building or Consuming - Why This Makes a Difference: High Impact Interview with Tom Libelt
July 21, 2020 09:00 - 12 minutes - 11.5 MBTom Libelt learned from a young age how to sell and negotiate business by getting haggled by Russian vendors. His family moved from Poland to the US to escape communism, and his parents took any job they could to survive. Seeing all this as a young man motivated him to never want a job and keep moving forward as an entrepreneur, publisher, salesman, and one of the top Polish hip hop artists. Tom spends most of his time in Chiang Mai, Thailand. He runs Smart Brand Marketing and We Market Onli...
Monetizing Your Expertise - Full Interview with Tom Libelt
July 20, 2020 09:00 - 42 minutes - 39.1 MBTom Libelt learned from a young age how to sell and negotiate business by getting haggled by Russian vendors. His family moved from Poland to the US to escape communism, and his parents took any job they could to survive. Seeing all this as a young man motivated him to never want a job and keep moving forward as an entrepreneur, publisher, salesman, and one of the top Polish hip hop artists. Tom spends most of his time in Chiang Mai, Thailand. He runs Smart Brand Marketing and We Market Onli...
It's All Online - Eliminating Excuses with Self-Taught Skills - High Impact Interview with Lorena Tomasini
July 17, 2020 16:10 - 12 minutes - 11.8 MBThe Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough. Take the earbuds out, turn speakers down, and have weekly money talks with your kids so you can open the lifelong relationship of talking about money with them.
Unwrapping Life Insurance : What You Need to Know - Full Interview with Lorena Tomasini
July 16, 2020 09:00 - 34 minutes - 31.9 MBClick here for more information on MALM. https://www.malmins.com/
The Money That You Make versus The Money That You Keep - High Impact Interview with Jake Lynn
July 14, 2020 09:00 - 11 minutes - 10.6 MBJake Lynn, Fortune 100 Consultant, is here with us again for another episode with our High-Impact Series to share his #1 lesson learned during his entrepreneurial journey. The Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough...
Where There's a "Why," There's a "Way" - Full Interview with Jake Lynn
July 13, 2020 10:32 - 32 minutes - 29.9 MBJake Lynn, Fortune 100 Consultant, is here with us for a full interview outlining the steps he took to achieve his "WHY" - working from home and being able to be present with his family. He shares the mindset individuals need to purse entrepreneurship to be in the right headspace to succeed.
Finding Your End Goal - High Impact Interview with Josh Long
July 09, 2020 09:00 - 13 minutes - 12.3 MBJoshua Long is a consultant who focuses on helping B2B companies in the $1 million to $10 million range break through their current revenue plateaus and unlock rapid growth. Through his experience as an entrepreneur, marketing director for BBI (the company owned by Chet Holmes and Tony Robbins), and consultant, he has developed the Bottleneck Breakthrough Method. It has proven to be the most reliable method for unlocking rapid growth for his clients, while reducing the risk of wasted capital...
Marketing Strategies, Business Growth, and Networking - Full Interview with Josh Long
July 07, 2020 09:00 - 51 minutes - 47.1 MBJoshua Long is a consultant who focuses on helping B2B companies in the $1 million to $10 million range break through their current revenue plateaus and unlock rapid growth. Through his experience as an entrepreneur, marketing director for BBI (the company owned by Chet Holmes and Tony Robbins), and consultant, he has developed the Bottleneck Breakthrough Method. It has proven to be the most reliable method for unlocking rapid growth for his clients, while reducing the risk of wasted capital...
Inside Knowledge on Saving Thousands of Dollars with a 97% Graduation Rate: Full Interview with Terry Rummelt Jr.
July 06, 2020 09:00 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBVisit: https://www.collegedreambuilder.com/
Seeing Money as a Tool and Adding Value to The World - Full Interview with Joseph Aaron
July 03, 2020 09:00 - 45 minutes - 41.3 MBJoseph Aaron is now known as the rainmaker who buys and mentors 7-figure businesses to make them multiply quickly. But, it didn’t start that way. Joe began his journey into multiplying companies after a massive Failure as a non-profit leader. Joe spent 7-years in a nonprofit project helping teens in a racist, poverty-stricken town near East St Louis. Making an impact and growing that movement was a God-given dream Joe and his family believed was his path to change the world. Their move...
Rejection is Redirection - High Impact Interview with Hala Taha
June 30, 2020 09:00 - 10 minutes - 9.93 MBHala started her career in radio production at WQHT Hot97 on “The Angie Martinez Show.” Later she focused on an entrepreneurial endeavor― the launch an entertainment news blog site, “The Sorority of Hip Hop.” She led an all-female team of 50 bloggers, and together they ran the popular site, interviewed celebrities, produced radio shows, and hosted parties/concerts. When the blog site boom slowed down in 2014, Hala took a temporary exit from the entertainment industry to get an MBA. She now ...
Imperfect Action Beats Perfect Inaction - Starting a Self-Taught Side Hustle with Hala Taha
June 29, 2020 09:00 - 30 minutes - 27.6 MBHala started her career in radio production at WQHT Hot97 on “The Angie Martinez Show.” Later she focused on an entrepreneurial endeavor― the launch an entertainment news blog site, “The Sorority of Hip Hop.” She led an all-female team of 50 bloggers, and together they ran the popular site, interviewed celebrities, produced radio shows, and hosted parties/concerts. When the blog site boom slowed down in 2014, Hala took a temporary exit from the entertainment industry to get an MBA. She now ...
Making College Decisions - High Impact Interview with Terry Rummelt JR
June 26, 2020 09:00 - 12 minutes - 11.3 MBIn this High Impact Interview, Terry Rummelt, president of College Dream Builder, outlines how to make the overall best college decisions with your kids. The Money Talkers Podcast High Impact Series is a short interview that has actionable steps to help parents with a weekly topic to discuss with their kids. The ONE BIG question is designed to draw out what our guests wish someone would have taught them that learned later in life prior to their big successful breakthrough. Take the earbuds o...
Breaking from Conformity - High Impact Interview with Chantel Soumis
June 23, 2020 09:00 - 12 minutes - 11.6 MBChantel Soumis, shares her #1 wish schools would teach kids. Chantel, Founder and Creative Director of Stardust Creative is on a mission to help organizations smash through sales and marketing expectations on a shoestring budget. With a personal history rich in resourcefulness and creativity, Chantel's hunger for craft, innovative processes is poured into all the cracks in her life, including career as a business owner, family as a mother, daughter, and wife, as well as in her personal healt...
The World is Built for the Healthy Human - Chantel Soumis
June 22, 2020 14:00 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBListen to this full interview about the path Chantel Soumis paved after receiving a life changing diagnosis of multiple sclerosis. She inspires other people navigate through a world built for "the healthy human." Chantel, Founder and Creative Director of Stardust Creative is on a mission to help organizations smash through sales and marketing expectations on a shoestring budget. With a personal history rich in resourcefulness and creativity, Chantel's hunger for craft, innovative processes is...
Working Past Entitlement - High Impact Interview with Mark Moss
June 19, 2020 09:00 - 13 minutes - 12.8 MBhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9ZM3N0ybRtp44-WLqsW3iQ/featured To Sign up for the Money Talkers Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MoneyTalkers/ Find out more about the Money Talkers programs: https://themoneytalkers.com/
Living Rent Free with Passive Income - High Impact Interview with Brandon Duff
June 18, 2020 09:00 - 17 minutes - 16 MBFind Brandon at https://themoneyfriends.com/ To Sign up for the Money Talkers Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MoneyTalkers/ Find out more about the Money Talkers programs: https://themoneytalkers.com/
Tabling Obstacles and Overcoming Risk - Full Interview with Mark Moss
June 16, 2020 09:00 - 37 minutes - 34.4 MBhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9ZM3N0ybRtp44-WLqsW3iQ/about To Sign up for the Money Talkers Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MoneyTalkers/ Find out more about the Money Talkers programs: https://themoneytalkers.com/
The Power in Starting Over - Full Interview with Brandon Duff
June 15, 2020 09:00 - 35 minutes - 32.6 MBIn this episode, Brandon Duff shares with us how he built a 6-figure business and walked away to start over again!
Framing a Positive Mindset Around Money - High Impact Interview with Brandon Garrett
June 12, 2020 09:00 - 12 minutes - 11.8 MBI cut my teeth in Fortune 200 corporate environments where I consistently delivered profitable growth in numerous highly competitive markets. In industries such as retail, manufacturing, pharmacy, insurance, and others, I have grown millions of dollars in sales, improved employee and customer retention, lowered operating costs, and enhanced the brand. Not only do I understand the importance of connecting the right customer, with the right product or service, at the right time, but I can deve...
Breaking the Cycle - Full Interview with Brandon Garrett
June 11, 2020 09:00 - 35 minutes - 32.9 MBI cut my teeth in Fortune 200 corporate environments where I consistently delivered profitable growth in numerous highly competitive markets. In industries such as retail, manufacturing, pharmacy, insurance, and others, I have grown millions of dollars in sales, improved employee and customer retention, lowered operating costs, and enhanced the brand. Not only do I understand the importance of connecting the right customer, with the right product or service, at the right time, but I can deve...
The Opportunity in Failure: Teaching Kids Entrepreneurship and Investing with Connor Boyack
June 09, 2020 09:00 - 11 minutes - 10.9 MBConnor Boyack founded Libertas Institute in 2011 and serves as its president. Named one of Utah’s most politically influential people by The Salt Lake Tribune, Connor’s leadership has led to dozens of legislative victories spanning a wide range of areas such as privacy, government transparency, property rights, drug policy, education, personal freedom, and more. A public speaker and author of 20 books, he is best known for The Tuttle Twins books, a children’s series introducing young readers...
The Birds and The Bees? Full Interview with Connor Boyack and Riley Loughlin
June 08, 2020 09:00 - 48 minutes - 44.3 MBConnor Boyack founded Libertas Institute in 2011 and serves as its president. Named one of Utah’s most politically influential people by The Salt Lake Tribune, Connor’s leadership has led to dozens of legislative victories spanning a wide range of areas such as privacy, government transparency, property rights, drug policy, education, personal freedom, and more. A public speaker and author of 20 books, he is best known for The Tuttle Twins books, a children’s series introducing young readers...
Running into the Chaos: High Impact Interview with Amanda Joy
June 05, 2020 09:00 - 17 minutes - 16.4 MBAmanda Joy is the Family Activation Expert. Her original (and slightly crazy) approach to family transformation is brilliantly effective! She is the guru behind the Mom Activated brand, a Family Performance Strategist, and the creator of many tools for parents.
Clean Up After Yourself: Full Interview with Amanda Joy
June 04, 2020 09:00 - 38 minutes - 34.9 MBAmanda Joy is the Family Activation Expert. Her original (and slightly crazy) approach to family transformation is brilliantly effective! She is the guru behind the Mom Activated brand, a Family Performance Strategist, and the creator of many tools for parents.
Kids Have Priorities, Too. High Impact Interview with Mark Savant.
June 02, 2020 09:00 - 9 minutes - 8.68 MBMark is passionate about the power of hosting a show to magnify your message, deliver value, and build a network. He helps people create their own show, build brand, and develop thriving communities through digital marketing, podcasting, and video production. He is founder of Actidad, a digital media production company with the goal to inspire, entertain, and educate fathers. He’s interviewed super bowl champions, presidential candidates, doctors, and mega-influencers. The Awesome Dad Sh...
Family Man: Raising Awesome Kids with Intentional Parenting. Full Interview with Mark Savant
June 01, 2020 09:00 - 35 minutes - 32.4 MBHow many of us strive for a great work/life balance? This full interview with Mark Savant demonstrates how he parents intentionally with a positive influence on his kids. Mark is passionate about the power of hosting a show to magnify your message, deliver value, and build a network. He helps people create their own show, build brand, and develop thriving communities through digital marketing, podcasting, and video production. He is founder of Actidad, a digital media production company w...
The Game Changer: Why Isn't This Common Knowledge?! High Impact Interview with Greg Shepard.
May 29, 2020 09:00 - 17 minutes - 15.9 MBGreg Shepard is a Serial Entrepreneur, Author, Speaker, and Angel Venture Capital Investor with a legacy of building and running sustainable growth businesses. Driven by a transformational leadership style, Greg has spearheaded multiple company exits throughout his career. His former company, AffiliateTraction, was acquired by eBay Enterprise Marketing Solutions in January 2016 as a part of a cross-brand deal totaling $985M.
Serial Entrepreneur - Building an Empire. Full Interview with Greg Shepard.
May 28, 2020 09:00 - 1 hour - 59.8 MBGreg Shepard is a Serial Entrepreneur, Author, Speaker, and Angel Venture Capital Investor with a legacy of building and running sustainable growth businesses. Driven by a transformational leadership style, Greg has spearheaded multiple company exits throughout his career. His former company, AffiliateTraction, was acquired by eBay Enterprise Marketing Solutions in January 2016 as a part of a cross-brand deal totaling $985M.
High Impact Interview: Owning a Business is Less of a Risk Than Being an Employee - Tobe Brockner
May 26, 2020 09:00 - 12 minutes - 11.5 MBI am a lifelong entrepreneur who is passionate about helping other entrepreneurs grow and scale, make an impact, and leave a legacy. I am a father of 2, Beau who is 16 and Scarlett who is 14 and have been married to my wife Kirsten for 22 years this coming October. I am currently working on a project I have called Re:purpose Initiative that is comprised of 3 pillars, all aimed at helping business owners and entrepreneurs access and leverage the knowledge and experience of the group. The 3 pi...
Kid Capitalist: Trading Value for Value - Tobe Brockner - Full Interview on How we Gave our Kids a Book of our Advice
May 25, 2020 09:00 - 39 minutes - 35.9 MBI am a lifelong entrepreneur who is passionate about helping other entrepreneurs grow and scale, make an impact, and leave a legacy. I am a father of 2, Beau who is 16 and Scarlett who is 14 and have been married to my wife Kirsten for 22 years this coming October. I am currently working on a project I have called Re:purpose Initiative that is comprised of 3 pillars, all aimed at helping business owners and entrepreneurs access and leverage the knowledge and experience of the group. The 3 pi...