At the time of the podcast recording, COVID-19 is rocking our world. The world is practicing social distancing, many states have safe at home orders, and schools are shut down until further notice. I invited Peter Grey on the podcast before the world was turned upside down by COVID-19. I wanted him to discuss his book Free To Learn along with his recent article in Psychology Today, "School Refusal: A Crime, A Mental Health Disorder, or A Human Right." We get to those things later in the conversation, but we begin with discussing childhood, play, responsibility, and reassurance that despite COVID-19 rocking our schools to the core, our kids will learn.

Last week I wrote about the 3 Phases of Response to COVID-19, and if you haven't read it yet, it's worth a read. It is helping me to conceptualize the work, and it is helping me realize nothing is an emergency. The impact of COVID-19 on education will be experienced long after the virus is gone.

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