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076 - Keri Ladouceur Talks About Mutual Flourishing for Israelis and Palestinians
June 20, 2024 12:05 - 1 hour - 101 MBKeri Ladouceur joins us today to talk about mutual flourishing for Israelis and Palestinians. Keri is the Executive Director of the Post Evangelical Collective and hosts A Third Way Podcast. She has been hosting a series on her podcast on a Christian Perspective on Peace in the Middle East. After a short conversation about why these conversations matter, we’ll listen in on one of those conversations with Greg Kahlil, one of the co-founders of the Telos Group. Keri’s A Third Way Podcast ...
075- The Divine Conspiracy Chapter 10
June 06, 2024 12:06 - 1 hour - 55.2 MBWe're finishing up our time together in The Divine Conspiracy Project this week as we cover the last chapter, chapter 10. We don't have a guest this week, and Mike tackles the chapter alone and then offers some reflections on re-engaging this book over the past few months. We talk a bit about the loss of a future hope for post-evangelicals as it relates to the afterlife, the significance of recognizing the physicality of the future hope, and the intersection of personal transformation and th...
074 - The Divine Conspiracy: Chapter 9 with Justin Morgan
May 30, 2024 12:05 - 1 hour - 56.5 MBWe’re getting close to the end of our time in the Divine Conspiracy and joining us today in one of the final chapters is Justin Morgan. Justin is the pastor of Church on Morgan (which is not named after him…which we talk about in the episode). One of the reasons we wanted to have Justin on for this specific chapter is because Willard lays out some of the vision that Justin grabbed ahold of when he first started Church on Morgan, but that he would eventually find not fully adequate for the wo...
073 - The Divine Conspiracy: Chapter 8 with John Ortberg
May 23, 2024 12:03 - 54 minutes - 50.2 MBJohn Ortberg joins us on the podcast today as we continue on in the Divine Conspiracy Project, looking at Chapter 8 of the book. John is a pastor, author, and speaker. He’s been in ministry for over 40 years and teaches around a central theme of spiritual formation. John is a deep believer that the main thing God gets out of your life is the person you become. He desires for people to know God in an interactive, life- transforming way. Presently, John leads the ministry, Become New, focused ...
072 - The Divine Conspiracy: Chapter 7 with Jeremy Jernigan
May 16, 2024 12:05 - 1 hour - 61.5 MBJeremy Jernigan joins us on the podcast this week to discuss Chapter 7 of The Divine Conspiracy as we continue in The Divine Conspiracy Project. Jeremy is the founder of Communion Wine Co, he leads the Cabernet and Pray podcast, and is known as “The Wine Pastor”. Jeremy and I talk about a wide array of topics that this chapter brought up for us - dealing with contempt, prayer, Open Theism and how all of that relates as our faith grows and shifts and changes. You can find Jeremy at: His ...
071 - The Divine Conspiracy: Chapter 6 with Steve Carter
May 09, 2024 12:06 - 55 minutes - 50.4 MBSteve Carter- The Divine Conspiracy Ch 6 (071) Steve Carter joins us on the podcast again today. Steve is the best selling author of the book, The Thing Beneath the Thing, he hosts a podcast about the intersection of the craft of preaching and who we are becoming called Craft and Character, he’s a coach to communicators, and is a Teaching Pastor at Forest City Church. Steve and I first talk briefly about his newest book, Grieve, Breathe, Receive. We then talk about the sixth chapter...
070 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 5 with Michael Hidalgo
May 02, 2024 12:18 - 58 minutes - 53.5 MBMichael Hidalgo- The Divine Conspiracy Ch 5 (070) Michael Hidalgo joins us today to continue in our discussion on The Divine Conspiracy. Michael is the Lead Pastor of Denver Community Church, the author of Unlost: Being Found by the One We Are Looking For and Changing Faith: Questions, Doubts and Choices About the Unchanging God, the host of “The Changing Faith Podcast”, a speaker, retreat leader and an associate with GiANT London. He lives with his wife and children in Denver, Colorado...
069 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 4 - with Jason Adam Miller
April 25, 2024 14:32 - 53 minutes - 49 MBJason Miller joins us on the podcast again, this time to talk about Chapter 5 of the Divine Conspiracy, where Willard (and Jason) unpack the Beatitudes for us. Jason is a pastor who never quite felt at home in church, an artist who figured out the sermon is his song, and a teacher who still has some questions. he studied theology in the graduate school at the University of Notre Dame, and follows Jesus with the people of South Bend City Church, an eclectic Christian community known for its t...
069 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 4 with Jason Adam Miller
April 25, 2024 12:05 - 53 minutes - 49 MBJason Miller joins us on the podcast again, this time to talk about Chapter 5 of the Divine Conspiracy, where Willard (and Jason) unpack the Beatitudes for us. Jason is a pastor who never quite felt at home in church, an artist who figured out the sermon is his song, and a teacher who still has some questions. he studied theology in the graduate school at the University of Notre Dame, and follows Jesus with the people of South Bend City Church, an eclectic Christian community known for its t...
068 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 3 with Aaron Niequist
April 18, 2024 12:09 - 56 minutes - 51.7 MBAaron Niequist is a liturgist, writer, and pastor currently living in New York City. He is the creator of A New Liturgy, founder of Pastors, Priests and Guides and the author of The Eternal Current. Aaron and I shared together in his first earthquake, which hit New York while recording this podcast. But we also talk about understanding God’s presence and space and how we open ourselves up with new eyes to recognize its implications around us, and experiencing the reality of the way the wor...
067 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 2 with Brian Zahnd
April 11, 2024 12:11 - 54 minutes - 50.3 MBBrian Zahnd joins us again on the podcast to engage in the third chapter of the Divine Conspiracy. Brian is the founder and lead pastor of Word of Life Church in St. Joseph, Missouri. He’s also a pastor-theologian who has authored eleven books, including most recently The Wood Between the Worlds. BZ and I briefly talk about his new book, the unique story of how he first came across The Divine Conspiracy and the significant shifts it brought about in his own life, salvation as something o...
066 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Intro & Chapter 1 with Sean Palmer
April 04, 2024 12:04 - 1 hour - 58.2 MBSean Palmer joins us today to delve into the first chapter of The Divine Conspiracy. Sean is an enneagram theorist, a preacher and a pastor, a speaking coach and author. He’s currently the Teaching Pastor at Ecclesia Houston, and most recently is the author of Speaking by the Numbers. Sean and I talk about how the Divine Conspiracy helped to give Jesus as fresh hearing for those like us who had presumed familiarity that led to unfamiliarity. We talk about what it means to do life with God,...
065 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Overview with Jan Johnson
March 21, 2024 12:31 - 46 minutes - 42.2 MBJan Johnson is an author, speaker, college professor, and spiritual director. Amongst the many books she's written, she co-authored the Study Guide for the Divine Conspiracy. Jan also serves in leadership for the Dallas Willard School of Kingdom Living. She is someone who knew Dallas well, has been interacting with the ideas from the Divine Conspiracy for over two decades, and has been teaching and creating content from it for about as long as well. She's a great guest to introduce us to som...
064 - Introducing The Divine Conspiracy Project
March 07, 2024 13:09 - 25 minutes - 23.6 MBBuy The Divine Conspiracy Reading Plan and Other Resources -------------------------------------------- To help support me and my work, which includes this podcast, you can make tax-deductible donations to: “WE Ministries” And mail it to: Mike Goldsworthy 6285 E. Spring St #474 Long Beach, CA 90808
063 - update and reflections
January 09, 2024 19:52 - 33 minutes - 30.7 MBwhere the space for faith podcast has been the past several months...what will it look like this year...and a few reflections from some of my learnings this past year
062 - Meredith Miller -Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn’t Have to Heal From
August 08, 2023 16:49 - 58 minutes - 53.3 MBMeredith Miller is a pastor and parent who helps grownups, and the kids they love, engage with the Bible and faith in ways that are life-giving, fun, and a fit for their real lives. We talk about why it's a more helpful goal for kids to develop trust with God than obedience, what God-centered storytelling looks like, Moral Therapeutic Deism, and a bunch more. Regardless of whether you have kids or not, I think you'll find our conversation helpful as you navigate what it means to engage your ...
061 - Jason Adam Miller - When the World Breaks
July 18, 2023 12:36 - 1 hour - 65.6 MBJason Miller joins us on the podcast today where we talk about the way we read the Beatitudes as a transformative way forward when we suffer rather than an expectation that creates heavier burdens. He paints us a picture of the beauty of what it begins to look like when we let these blessings of Jesus do their work. Check our Jason's new book, When the World Breaks Find him on the Instagram And on the webs And at South Bend City Church Other links from the podcast: postevangelicalcollec...
060 - Scot McKnight - The Second Testament
May 16, 2023 12:05 - 54 minutes - 50.3 MBScot McKnight is the Julius R. Mantey Chair of New Testament at Northern Seminary. He's the author of numerous books including Jesus Creed, Blue Parakeet, King Jesus Gospel and A Church Called Tov, which he co-authored with his daughter Laura Barringer. Today we're talking about a new New Testament translation that Scot has completed that will be released on June 6. In our interview, Scot calls it a "crunchy and clunky translation" as a way of describing some of how he approached this work...
059 - Andrew Lang - Unmasking the Inner Critic
May 09, 2023 12:03 - 35 minutes - 32.8 MBAndrew Lang joins us on the podcast today. Many of the people who join us here to talk about faith are coming out of experiences from a more conservative tradition. Andrew is a bit different in that he's coming from a more progressive tradition and along the way finds the significance and beauty of the contemplative tradition. We talk about depth and inner work in our lives and the practices of the contemplative tradition that open us up to that work. Andrew's book - Unmasking the Inner Cri...
058 - Mike Foster - The Seven Primal Questions
May 02, 2023 12:13 - 47 minutes - 43.4 MBMike Foster is known as the Mr. Rogers of self-development. He’s a best-selling author, speaker, and executive coach empowering people to build strong lives by turning their setbacks into superpowers. We spend some time today understanding our primal question, how it helps us to understand ourselves in ways that unlocks places where we’re stuck, gives us a framework for how to relate in relationships and a better understanding of what our best contribution to the world is. Plus, you get to ...
058 - Casey Tygrett - The Gift of Restlessness
April 25, 2023 12:54 - 55 minutes - 50.6 MBCasey Tygrett is a pastor, a spiritual director and author. He has degrees and certifications and all of the stuff. But, what you need to know is that he's incredibly thoughtful, intuitive and generous. His newest book (releasing today) called The Gift of Restlessness was such a gift to me. I think you're going to appreciate the book and the conversation. Find Casey's new book, The Gift of Restlessness HERE Find Casey on the internets: CaseyTygrett.com Instagram Facebook If you want t...
057 - Casey Tygrett - The Gift of Restlessness
April 25, 2023 12:54 - 55 minutes - 50.6 MBCasey Tygrett is a pastor, a spiritual director and author. He has degrees and certifications and all of the stuff. But, what you need to know is that he's incredibly thoughtful, intuitive and generous. His newest book (releasing today) called The Gift of Restlessness was such a gift to me. I think you're going to appreciate the book and the conversation. Find Casey's new book, The Gift of Restlessness HERE Find Casey on the internets: CaseyTygrett.com Instagram Facebook If you want t...
056 - Justin McRoberts and Sacred Strides- The Journey to Belovedness in Work and Rest
April 18, 2023 22:19 - 59 minutes - 54.2 MBIt's been a bit, but we've got several new episodes recorded that you'll be getting over the next several weeks. Today, Justin McRoberts joins us again on the podcast to talk to us about finding our belovedness in our work and our rest. We talk about my Sabbath and Retirement rants, finding contentment in the actual life I'm living, and moving beyond utility and usefulness. Check out Justin's new book Sacred Strides HERE And follow him on the Instagram
055 - Dave Davis - Changing Metrics, Vocational Shifts and Faith Evolution
November 22, 2022 13:00 - 56 minutes - 52 MBDave Davis joins us on the podcast today. We talk about the experience of your faith shifting while you’re on church staff, about changing metrics in the church, and some thoughts for those of you in ministry who are considering vocational shifts. Dave Davis has been coaching leaders, leading organizations and bringing clarity to the confused for more than 30 years. He been an Executive Pastor, Lead Pastor, Chief Operating Officer and Consultant through a long carrier in ministry, corpo...
054 - Jonathan Foster - A Theology of Consent
November 15, 2022 19:14 - 1 hour - 58.6 MBJonathan Foster and I talk about René Girard’s mimetic theory and scapegoating, how God operates with consent and love as non-scapegoating, non-violent, non-binary. Check out Jonathan’s new book, Theology of Consent And find him on the internets here ————— To help support me and my work, particularly with post-evangelical churches, you can make tax-deductible donations to: “WE Ministries” And mail it to: Mike Goldsworthy 6285 E. Spring St #474 Long Beach, CA 90808
053 - Blaine Hogan - Exit the Cave
November 07, 2022 10:19 - 55 minutes - 50.5 MBBlain Hogan joins us today to talk about Happy Friday Dance Parties, the work of uncovering your story, the tension of knowing what you want to create while also creating space for feedback, how paying attention to the particulars of our story helps us to connect more universally, and how we can change our past. Blaine Hogan is a writer, film and creative director, and actor. Former creative director for Willow Creek Community Church, Hogan is currently a full-time filmmaker. He lives in A...
052 - Peter Choi + Jonathan Merritt [Post Evangelical Collective 2022]
October 28, 2022 13:47 - 33 minutes - 31 MBPeter Choi's talk from the Post Evangelical Collective 2022 in Denver, CO. Jonathan Merritt closes out our time together with Eucharist
051 - Eric Wilson + David Gushee [Post Evangelical Collective 2022]
October 26, 2022 15:54 - 26 minutes - 24.7 MBEric Wilson's spoken word and David Gushee's talk at the 2022 Post Evangelical Collective in Denver, CO
050 - Gail Song Bantum [Post Evangelical Collective 2022]
October 24, 2022 14:13 - 23 minutes - 21.3 MBGail Song Bantum's opening talk at the 2022 Post Evangelical Collective in Denver, CO
049 - Peter Choi and the Dynamism and Movement of Faith
October 04, 2022 12:00 - 57 minutes - 52.9 MBPeter Choi is Director of the Center for Faith and Justice, Associate Professor of American Christianity, and a member of the Core Doctoral Faculty at the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley. He spends some time talking to us about the way evangelicalism is understood and defined, the dynamism of our faith, and the way we engage the Scriptures and a faith that is always reforming. Find the Center for Faith and Justice HERE, on Instagram and on Facebook And find Peter at this year's Pos...
048 - Kan’Dace Brock & Zach Lambert - New Life From Previous Institutions
September 13, 2022 12:00 - 54 minutes - 50.1 MBOn today’s episode, we’re joined by Kan’Dace Brock & Zach Lambert who talk with us about the ethos of the churches that they’ve each been a part of planting, the ways that people use money to try and control outcomes with Christian institutions, a vision for a seminary that is multi and inter-denominational as well as scholarly and practical, and how they are both involved in critiquing the old by creating the new. Go HERE for more information about Fletcher Seminary Find Kan’Dace’s ch...
047 - Mallory Wyckoff - God Is
September 06, 2022 12:00 - 57 minutes - 52.6 MBMallory Wyckoff joins us on the podcast today. Mallory is a teacher, preacher, writer, and spiritual director. She serves as key relationships officer with Preemptive Love, a global community of peacemakers working to end war and stop the spread of violence. Having completed her dissertation on the impact of sexual trauma on survivors’ theological perception and spiritual formation, Mallory has a DMin from Lipscomb University in missional and spiritual formation. In all her work, Mallory is ...
046 - Dan Lowery and Theological Education for Tomorrow’s Church
August 30, 2022 12:45 - 51 minutes - 47.2 MBWe are joined today by the President of Pillar Seminary, Dan Lowery. We spend some time talking about your life and calling taking you into unexpected vocations places, the future of seminary, ecumenical spaces, and creating space in seminary and the church for help people learn to think rather than be told what to think. Check our Pillar Seminary and their Lunchtime Seminary program Find information about the Post Evangelical Collective in October, Logos Bible Software or partnering with...
045 - Seeing, But Not Clearly
August 05, 2022 02:22 - 33 minutes - 30.3 MBWe're doing something a bit different on the space for faith podcast today and broadcasting a sermon Mike recently preached at South Bend City Church. We walk through the double healing of the blind man in Mark 8, recognizing that sometimes in our faith journey we need to see, but not clearly before our eyes can be opened to see clearly and in focus. Like the blind man who experiences a two part healing in Mark 8, our faith often progresses through stages that grow and expand. And the places...
044 - Jeff Lockyer - Approaching the Gaps in Ministry
June 28, 2022 12:00 - 47 minutes - 43.9 MBJeff Lockyer is the Lead Pastor of Southridge, one of the largest churches in Canada, eh. I love the way he thinks about gaps in the church and how to close them; the way his church does many similar things to other churches their size, but the heart and motivation behind them is very different; the way he thinks about operationalizing ministry concerns and heartbeats. he is a mature and thoughtful leader and I've learned a lot from Jeff. Find Jeff's book, Finding Our Way And check out L...
043 - Jared Byas - Jonah for Normal People
June 21, 2022 12:00 - 48 minutes - 44.8 MBJared Byas is the cohost of the popular The Bible for Normal People podcast. He previously served as a pastor, but he continues the work of helping people find and save their faith by introducing them to honest engagement with the Scriptures. I loved his previous book, Love Matters More. Today we talk about his newest book, Jonah for Normal People, where he helps us see Jonah with fresh eyes while engaging in thoughtful scholarship. -------- To help support me and my work, particularly wi...
042 - Angie Hong - Experimental Liturgies & Diverse Voices
June 14, 2022 12:00 - 1 hour - 56.3 MBAngie Hong is a worship leader, writer and speaker based in Durham, NC. She is also a co-founder of Kinship Commons, creating resources to equip worship cultivators of color, which is one thing we'll discuss in this episode. Angie and I talk about the pressure that is often put on worship leaders of color when significant events that gain national attention take place. We talk about cultivating diversity in who you're learning from, experimental liturgies and the work she's doing with the ...
041 - Nancy Beach & Samantha Beach Kiley - Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church
June 07, 2022 12:00 - 59 minutes - 54.7 MBNancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley share with us about their new book, Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church. They show us what it looks like to have humility about the way we think about God and the church, being open to seeing things through others' perspectives. I think this will be an important book at opening up a cross-generational dialogue about reimaging the church for our current moment. Next Sunday releases June 14, but we are having a giveaway on Insta...
040 - Kevin Sweeney - The Making of a Mystic
May 31, 2022 12:00 - 59 minutes - 54.7 MBKevin Sweeney is the co-founder and pastor of Imagine Hawaii and the author of The Making of a Mystic. We talk about what authenticity and integrity will cost you, what it is to be a mystic and the integration of those experiences into the normalcy of life, and the process he's going through of learning to let go as Imagine moves towards its final days and he enters into a new season. We also briefly talk about the Post Evangelical Collective Gathering for pastors, artists, and other chu...
039 - Rob Schenck - A Third Conversion, The Religious Right, & Dietrich Bonhoeffer
May 24, 2022 18:02 - 55 minutes - 50.6 MBRob Schenck is a public theologian and founder of The Dietrich Bonhoeffer Institute in Washington DC. Formerly, Rob had been significantly involved in a high public platform in the Religious Right until he went through his own journey of his faith evolving. Rob talks to us about the intersection of power and having a public faith platform, how Abigail Disney opened him up to what he calls his third conversion experience and how Dietrich Bonhoeffer saved his faith. For more info on The Die...
[ANNOUNCEMENT] Post-Evangelical Collective, Oct 11-12, 2022
May 10, 2022 12:00 - 6 minutes - 5.49 MBIf you are a pastor, artist, or other church leader who feels connected to the post-evangelical space – which is to say that you have felt ecclesiologcally homeless in the larger church landscape. Not quite sure where you fit, but you’re not ready to give up on the church and you’re a part of reimagining what it looks like for our current moment. If that’s you, I’d love to have you join us and bring others from your church along with you to the Post-Evangelical Collective Gathering in Denv...
038 - Sean Palmer - Speaking by the Numbers
March 14, 2022 12:00 - 54 minutes - 50 MBToday’s space for faith episode has a little bit of everything with Sean Palmer. It starts early with Sean comparing Taylor Swift with Shakespeare and quickly moves to talking about the Enneagram, cancel culture, Power over persuasion as the normal experience culturally and in the church, the church recapturing the ability to have difficult conversations together, the pragmatics of communicating to multiple enneagram numbers, and preaching and leading in post-evangelical spaces. Sean is alw...
037 - Aaron Niequist - New Liturgies, Formation & a Retreat
March 07, 2022 13:00 - 54 minutes - 50 MBAaron Niequist is a liturgist, writer and pastor currently living in NYC. Having led worship at Mars Hill, and Willow Creek, Aaron has created A New Liturgy, written The Eternal Current, and leads the Pastors, Priests and Guides Retreat. Aaron and I talk about his movement from being an evangelical megachurch worship leader to becoming more oriented towards liturgy and practice. We talk about bringing about change in churches, and worship services in particular. Building a worship service w...
036 - Sarah Swartzendruber - Parenting After Deconstruction
February 28, 2022 13:00 - 57 minutes - 52.5 MBSarah is a Co-Pastor and founder of Cascade PDX. In her pastoring work, she began to discover parents who had gone through their own deconstruction process who were trying to figure out how to engage in their kid's faith development. In addition to pastoring, she began to lead cohorts for parents who are trying to figure that out. We have a great conversation about her church in Portland and some of its uniqueness, the path of deconstruction, as well as the way that parents often react to ...
035 - Matthew Vines Talks about the Church, Discipleship, Scripture and Becoming LGBTQ Inclusive
February 21, 2022 13:00 - 55 minutes - 50.5 MBMathew Vines, author of God and the Gay Christian and founder of The Reformation Project joins us today. We talk about the church and why it still matters, not losing discipleship in the midst of reevaluating your beliefs, how you can hold onto a high view of Scripture while becoming affirming of Same-Sex Marriages and he tells us a little of the story of his recent engagement. At the end of the episode Matthew shares about a new video project, The Reformation Project has put together, exp...
034 - Gail Song Bantum and Brian Bantum - Choosing Us
February 14, 2022 13:00 - 1 hour - 58.1 MBGail Song Bantum and Brian Bantum join us on the podcast today. Gail is the Lead Pastor of Quest Church in Seattle and Brian is a Professor of Theology at Garrett Seminary. We spend some time talking about what it's like for Gail to be a woman leading a church, about Brian's work on the Mulatto Jesus, and then we get into creating space for mutual flourishing in marriage. They share with us a bit of what that journey has looked like for them and share insights that they've learned about how ...
033 - Todd Deatherage - Peacemaking as Discipleship and the Telos Group
February 07, 2022 13:00 - 1 hour - 56.8 MBTodd Deatherage spent sixteen years in senior positions in the legislative and executive branches of the U.S. government before co-founding the Telos Group. From 2005 to 2009, he was Chief of Staff in the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning at the U.S. State Department. He also spent two years as Senior Advisor in the Department’s Office of International Religious Freedom, where he specialized in religious freedom in the Middle East. Todd and I talk about Israel and Palestine, ex...
032 - Miley Waterman: Brave Global
February 01, 2022 17:20 - 31 minutes - 29.3 MBMiley Waterman is the CEO of Brave Global, an organization working to empower vulnerable girls in partnership with churches and local communities and organizations. Miley is also an event producer and helped to run the Post Evangelical Pastor and Church Leader Gathering that we held last October. We talk about that gathering, about doing preventative work in order to help vulnerable girls not become victims of human trafficking, and how churches and organizations can partner in this imp...
[BONUS - PRAYER WITH ZAHND]
January 27, 2022 13:00 - 55 seconds - 867 KBRecently when Brian Zahnd was on the podcast he ended his time by leading us through a prayer that he uses as he moves into a contemplative prayer that he calls sitting with Jesus. We've taken that prayer and posted it here so that you can use it on your own - to be led in a formative prayer that can help set up your own times of contemplative prayer. I hope this can be helpful for you 𝘊𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵, 𝘐 𝘢𝘤𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘦𝘥𝘨𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶. 𝘊𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘮𝘦. 𝘝𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘎𝘰𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘎𝘰𝘥. 𝘊𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵 𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘰𝘸 𝘮𝘦, 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘦...
031 - Brenna Rubio & Bill White Talk About Learning to Lead With
January 24, 2022 13:00 - 58 minutes - 53.2 MBBrenna Rubio and Bill White Co-Pastor City Church Long Beach and also founded Small Church Big Table to help deconstructing faith leaders dismantle toxic leadership patterns and learn power-sharing practices to build potent, inclusive communities. They share with us about what it's like to co-pastor a church, how to share power without just swinging the pendulum from one way of thinking about leadership structures and power to completely dismantling all structure and creating chaos, and eve...