Sadly this is the Final Episode of the Podcast (until I find a new sponsor)! 

Jack Thurston is a cyclist, a food lover, a photographer, a guide-book writer and an early podcast pioneer. He is the host of The Bike Show podcast and author of the Lost Lanes cycling guidebooks. We talked about adventures close to home and what the world of 'Adventure' looks like in the 21st Century.

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SHOW NOTES

If you enjoy listening to this episode over a cup of coffee and think it might be worth the price, you can buy me a "coffee" here: www. ko-fi.com/al_humphreysKeep up to date with future episodes (and my other adventures, projects and books) with my free monthly newsletter: alastairhumphreys.com/newslettersSay hello on Twitter and Instagram: @al_humphreys@jackthurston - https://twitter.com/jackthurstonLost Lanes - lostlanes.co.ukThe Bike Show podcast has been running since 2005 Alastair Humphreys on the Bike Show - http://thebikeshow.net/alastair_humphreys_part1/Podcasts don't usually make money. But you have to do something that you love - that is the price of entry.Bike Show tries to pick up sounds and experiences - the sonic colour - from outside the studioThere are different kinds of audio perfectionAsking open questions is important. Ask them how they feel. Get beyond the facts into the emotion.Conversation ought to be structured but also feel naturalIf you let silence happen, people will fill it with something interestingYou need to give the audience what they are interested inLouis Theroux podcast - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p089sfrz/episodes/downloadsCheryl Strayed podcast - Sugar Calling - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sugar-calling/id1505881384There are so many different methods of cycling.Cycling is a great way to interact with the environmentraphael kraft caribbean cycling podcast - https://thebikeshow.net/raphael-krafft-reportage-on-two-wheels/Cycling breaks down barriers, gets you unexpected places, and you are not cut off from the world. Therefore it is a good way to have experiences.The bicycle is a tool to take in the world at the right pace (and at the right price)Jack is a touring cyclist and a utility cyclistTakes kids to school on the bike. Does the shopping on the bike.You can travel further, for less effort, than walking. It's the perfect vehicle for travelling at the speed of the land and of my mind.fuchsia dunlop every grain of rice - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Every-Grain-Rice-Chinese-Cooking/dp/140880252XJack's spice concoction for cycle touring - https://www.instagram.com/p/CDqv79llTaT/Jack takes tins of sardines, marzipan, parmesan, harissa on a bike tourI like a bike ride that starts and finishes at my front doorJack has done a lot of flying in his life, but now is repulsed by the connotations. It makes him feel queasy.Has committed to not flying for workThings (like not flying) which seem difficult to consider are actually not that hard once you do themThere are a lot of issues related to 'adventure' that are problematicAdventure is a useful word for the sort of things we do - embracing the unexpected as a leisure activityTo me 'adventure' has a lot of baggage from history500 years ago adventure was the manifestation of privilege - colonial expansion right up to Edwardian's doing it for 'queen and country'Money, power, privilege, whiteness were the preconditions for adventurePeople doing adventure - voluntarily putting themselves in harm's way. If danger is a normal part of your life then you're probably unlikely to want to go bungee jumpingJack enjoys wild camping, but acknowledges that if he didn't look the way he does [white] then it would be a much more intimidating experienceCycling guidebooks over 100 years agoWanted to make the Lost Lanes books seductiveMake going out for a ride around London really appealing: nice photos, make it look appealing, eat oysters by the sea rather than get sweaty, evocative writingLiving in London in the 90s Jack had to come up with stories / temptations to lure his flatmates to come out of the city and ride with himThe book is supposed to fire up people's imaginations, and then the website has the technical detailsEmphasis of Lost Lanes is on very quite lanes and roadsYorkshire WoldsBeverley MinsterSomerset LevelsSamuel Palmer, artistWhat makes a good bike route? Needs a good sense of flow. You don't want all the climbing at the start/end, need different landscapes, good reveals, good vistas, hills are important for the views, try to...

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