Dr. Thomas Plante is a leading expert on sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. Plante is a prolific author, Augustin Cardinal Bea, S.J. University Professor at Santa Clara, a practicing psychologist, and serves as the Civility Chair of the American Psychological Association.

In this conversation with Thane and Don, Dr. Plante dives into the realities of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church, including how institutions are putting best practices into place to keep kids safe. Dr. Plante also shares tips on how we can create a more civil, compassionate and humane society.