Has deconstruction left you feeling isolated, anxious, and alone? Dr Tim Carson and I talk about the liminality of deconstruction, and how we are in a large collective “we” space of deconstruction, and the desperate need for liminal guides today. We also talk about the neurology of liminality and why it is so transformative.


Timothy Carson is the curator of The Liminality Project. And has done Doctoral research and dissertation on Liminality. Tim is also the author of Liminal Reality and Transformational Power (2016), editor of the anthology Neither Here nor There: The Many Voices of Liminality (2019), co-author of Crossing Thresholds: A Practical Theology of Liminality (2021), editor of the anthology The Liminal Loop: Astonishing Stories of Discovery and Hope (2022), and editor of Leaning into the Liminal: A Guide for Counselors and Companions (2024). Tim continues to write, edit, blog, facilitate groups and seminars focused on liminality, and work with people making life’s great passages. Tim teaches a variety of liminality courses in the Honors College of the University of Missouri and is a TEDx speaker, presenting on themes of liminality.


You can find Tim’s work here: https://www.theliminalityproject.org/

You can view Tim’s TEDx talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLaTOyVBdME


Time Stamps for the episode:

02:43 The Tim and Tom Show

06:15 Liminal conversations around the world

10:33 Liminality and Pastoring

16:04 Liminality in Academia

19:21 Liminality in the Church

23:58 This is your brain on Liminality

29:12 Liminal competency in our leaders

34:48 Liminal journey to rebirth the “me” and “we”

39:45 COVID 19 and collective Liminality

44:43 Training Liminal guides in Ukraine

50:23 Liminal space of deconstruction

56:05 Conclusions


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