As a leader, you may not feel like getting out of bed and heading to another board meeting. You may dread the endless number of reports and data that you have to review before your third meeting of the day. The thought of getting on yet another airplane with unexpected traveling delays, sleepless nights, all to do it again the next day, can make anyone rethink their why.

But, if you are the CEO of a non-profit organization whose mission rely's on your leadership to save lives, then you do all of those things without pause, without hesitation and with a great big smile on your face. 

In my recent interview with Kathleen on Like a REAL Boss, we talk about pain, passion, and the pursuit to better leadership.

There is no shortage of nuggets that you will get from this interview. I GUARANTEE IT!