In this episode, licensed mental health counselors Shannon Rowell and Chris Kavenagh join us along to talk about how vast the need is for effective trauma care in the mental health world and how when effective therapists do stellar work with the best protocols, they don't have to worry about where their next clients are going to come from.  Having been trained, Shannon and Chris are part of a cutting edge wave of counselors who understand that the world has trauma and therapists don't need to worry about keeping clients dependent on their care; when you clear someone's trauma, they will naturally send all of their friends along as well. 




Connect with Shannon Rowell at www.perfectlyimperfectcounseling.com 


Connect with Chris Kavenagh at www.fivestonescounseling.com 




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