Norm is joined in the second hour by longtime friend and retired Supervisory U.S. Probation Officer, Ray Lopez.

Ray is also a sentencing mitigation expert, specializing in federal death penalty cases, and a published author and evangelist. Ray evangelizes "redemption" to the most hard core of criminals in the United States. 

Ray discusses his pathway into his professional career, beginning with the story of how he himself landed on probation. 

Listen as Ray describes his path from California childhood to state level probation work, the transition to federal probation work and how he ended up in Connecticut. 

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