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469 episodes - English - Latest episode: 25 days ago - ★★★★★ - 2 ratingsAn excellent source for industry thought leadership in Edge Computing, Cloud Computing, DevOps, Open Source base on discussions at.the2030.cloud
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Resourcing the Metaverse (+ Feedback aaS)
March 18, 2022 22:00 - 58 minutes - 53.1 MBWhat resources does the Metaverse require? In this episode, we think of the metaverse as a distributed environment and ask if it could be owned by the people who are hosting the environments instead of centralized. One of the complicating factors is figuring out if the Metaverse is AR, VR, augmented or virtual systems. Consensus was that the augmented reality (AR) version of the Metaverse is probably the most valuable and the most accessible for building these systems out. But we kept mixi...
Uses for Distributed Ledger Technology
March 12, 2022 03:51 - 49 minutes - 45 MBToday's discussion was about distributed ledger technology (DLT), also known as blockchain and the technology behind Bitcoin. We had a balanced discussion: some people who were excited about the technology and others who were skeptical. That interplay really created one of the best conversations I've heard about DLT and its applications Throughout the conversation, we tested each other and we came back to basics. We didn't assume that blockchain was good because it was new, or that organiz...
Is Complexity Real?
March 12, 2022 00:27 - 44 minutes - 41.2 MBToday's episode is about measuring complexity. Complexity is a topic that we cover a lot. And in this case, we really went past the idea that we could measure complexity, and into looking at the causes and costs of complexity. We had a remarkable conversation about what it means to say something's too complex? What are the consequences of complexity? And what should we do about them? Ultimately, it’s about how how we measure the cost or the risk of complexity? In the end, we are reframing...
Is Web3 Legit?
March 04, 2022 22:41 - 49 minutes - 45.7 MBToday's episode is about Web3. By now hopefully you've heard of Web3, but… what is Web3 really!?! That's exactly what this conversation is about! We really talked about how Web3 is more than tech bros marketing Bitcoin. There actually are real legitimate business interests around Web3. Uses like breaking transaction log jams when a small number of providers are actually controlling and running the internet. Or looking at ways to decentralize infrastructure and remove bottlenecks within tr...
Scaling Continuous Delivery
March 04, 2022 22:33 - 39 minutes - 36.1 MBWe went beyond what the Continuous Delivery Foundation is doing to talk about how to scale Continuous Delivery. Especially around the continuous reconciler pattern. So what does CD take beyond committing something in git? To make scalable continuous delivery systems and cross team continuous delivery systems means building things beyond GitOps that really scale and work for enterprise teams. The use cases are not just cloud native technologies, but really useful for established enterprise...
The Real Augmentation leading AR/VR
February 26, 2022 01:29 - 54 minutes - 49.9 MBThis discussion is about the infrastructure behind augmented reality. We really dive into how augmented reality will take place in our environment. And the spoiler is it AR is already here! We are actually building augmented reality systems everywhere and they're showing up in our daily lives. The group believes very strongly that the automotive space is already leading AR for a whole bunch of reasons, including ease, progress so far, and profit motives. We also talked about why it's so h...
Migrating Long Term Applications
February 25, 2022 22:00 - 1 hour - 56.4 MBHow should we think about migrating legacy workloads to new infrastructure and modernize them? The group addresses this question methodically incuding how databases get linked, how they get used, how they get migrated, how important it is to maintain languages and what it would take to migrate in language. In the end, we look back on that conversation apply lessons learned to what we are building today, This is absolutely essential because new designs will become tomorrow's legacy! We'll b...
Can We Measure Complexity?
February 18, 2022 22:00 - 49 minutes - 44.9 MBWe seem to be very worried about complexity in technology, but how bad is it really? Do we have a way of measuring complexity? Figuring out how to actually quantify it could help eliminate and manage it. We started by discussing mathematical concepts to capture the systemic nature of complexity. That turns out to be really hard, so we got into some really interesting thoughts about what it takes to manage and understand complexity. Is it even possible to measure complexity? The group is...
Can machines update themselves?
February 18, 2022 22:00 - 49 minutes - 45.5 MBWe know that humans have trouble keeping systems updated, but… how can we address the challenge of knowing which updates are required and, critically, if the updates with break other systems? Even knowing if they worked is a really thorny problem! In this episode, we focus on actions about what’s going on and why this problem has persisted in industry for so long. Starting from the news of the day about CentOS 8 mirrors being taken down. That’s exactly the type of challenge we are facing w...
20211221 Containers
February 11, 2022 22:02 - 56 minutes - 51.6 MBThis discussion sifts into tactical concerns for containers in the near term. We've gotten far with containers and Kubernetes. But what about process controls that we need to wrap around containers? We talked through how we need to be thinking about containers now that we have good control surfaces around them to make things work. If you were using containers and Kubernetes, this podcast will certainly inform your thinking. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/NKNuTQQCXGXbVrZq_4pHazt4sZA Image:...
What’s up with Containers for 2022?
February 11, 2022 22:02 - 56 minutes - 51.6 MBThis discussion sifts into tactical concerns for containers in the near term. We've gotten far with containers and Kubernetes. But what about process controls that we need to wrap around containers? We talked through how we need to be thinking about containers now that we have good control surfaces around them to make things work. If you were using containers and Kubernetes, this podcast will certainly inform your thinking. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/NKNuTQQCXGXbVrZq_4pHazt4sZA Image:...
Reliable License Models
February 11, 2022 21:57 - 37 minutes - 34.5 MBWe talk about software licensing in open source, and what it means to the broader market. In fact, we cover how it's changing what the market actually is! This is not not just open source licensing in general because at the end we didn't care about the license. We are more concerned about utility, serviceability and operability of the products we use. We need to understand whether or not we can rely on them! In short, the supply chain of the software was much more important than the licen...
Serverless vs Digital Twins
February 04, 2022 22:13 - 1 hour - 60.8 MBWe discussed the intersection of serverless and digital twinning. These two concepts are really tightly intermingled! We discarded the idea of a central single serverless hub managing everything; instead, we think sites would actually have a mesh of serverless, interconnected event processing and stream processing systems. This approach is much more function dependent, but really opens up a lot of interesting discussions and possibilities. We also discussed how to manage all of this mesh...
Can DevOps Be More Collaborative / MSFT & Activision
February 04, 2022 22:11 - 56 minutes - 52.2 MBWe have a lot of questions about improving collaboration in organizations: How do we deal with change in organizations How can we get organizations to work together better? How do we encourage collaboration around the automation spaces that we're trying to build in DevOps. In our discussion, a lot came back to something as simple as version control! We also discuss how we handle coupling between systems. In order to collaborate, we have to couple systems. But if we couple them, we creat...
Using Blockchain for Edge Computing
January 28, 2022 22:47 - 52 minutes - 48.3 MBWe started talking about blockchain and the edge, but that is not where it ended up at all! Our fascinating journey started with web3, and surprisingly, it’s potential for distributed infrastructure and distributed web. That led us to edge: managing and trusting devices on the edge through distributed ledger (DLT). That led us to the distributed ledger landscape. The journey is important because some of these technologies will be essential for establishing trust in systems. In this conve...
Building Green(er) Data Centers
January 28, 2022 22:41 - 50 minutes - 46.4 MBWhat is a “green datacenter?” Can we make the IT infrastructure we use more environmentally sound? Maybe, but… it's a challenging problem because fundamentally running servers uses power. We went into how data centers use power with an eye to making them more efficient. But that’s only part of the story. We discussed ways to incent people to give up resources, CPU cycles, and idle servers. Those are the items that really help with savings. Ultimately, building a next generation infras...
Machine Learning in Operations
January 21, 2022 22:29 - 54 minutes - 49.7 MBToday's episode is about how to trust machine learning in operations. This is a really serious issue because the attraction of machine learning is strong, but does not translate into operations. Why doesn’t it translate? Because operations is a closed loop process where we constantly get feedback and have to adapt and adjust. That makes it difficult to train models and hope that they work. This discussion gets into why that's the case and what we can do about it. Then we explore scenario...
Exploring Edge Applications
January 21, 2022 22:29 - 48 minutes - 44.4 MBThis episode explores applications for the edge. We really try to dig in on what will work in the edge from an application perspective. We also explore what's holding us back. Every time we have a conversation about Edge, we help undangle the components of Edge. In this discussion, we get more concise about what type of infrastructure is needed to build real edge applications. We also define where edge applications are expected to work and where they don't. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u...
Is Edge HCI Necessary?
January 21, 2022 22:27 - 51 minutes - 47.2 MBTo explore HCI at the edge, we started with SUSE’s Harvester. It’s an HCI integration of Kubernetes, KubeVirt, and Longhorn (their storage system) plus some PXE booting magic they threw in there. From there we explored how Kubernetes can fit into Edge HCI. That really morphed into Edge operations more generally. It’s not clear if hyperconverged infrastructure can or can't fit. We covered items like AWS Outpost which is Amazon’s edge. We included items for the cloud to edge migration fr...
Resolving Software Dependency Chains
January 21, 2022 22:18 - 55 minutes - 50.8 MBDependency chains are complex and fragile when you're depending on software, hardware cloud services that go away or change. In this conversation, we really examine the challenge of having dynamic vendor relationships and what we can do to fix and protect our environments. It's really hard to fix what can be vulnerable when it also changes your software supply chain at any moment! And that can impact any device in your infrastructure!! We work through that problem means in practical terms. ...
A Pathway to Standardization
January 07, 2022 22:00 - 52 minutes - 47.9 MBThis episode was a fun and interesting ride from boring standards to locking APIs via NFTs! We started talking about “civilization technology” where standards and regulations are applied to infrastructure. We are expecting this to happen in cloud (eventually) because it allows us to create ecosystems around the infrastructure. The historical patterns that we see in railroads, buildings and electricity will emerge in IT too. Or maybe they won’t! We haven't yet seen standards emerging in...
What's Next for Cloud and Edge?
January 07, 2022 22:00 - 1 hour - 55.4 MBWe reflected on 2021 and our four key panelists talked through what's coming for 2022. Instead of making broad predictions, we focused on the needs of the market. We felt there were many immediate needs around cloud outages and security challenges. Of course, we also discuss how the edge is coming up along with more physical integrations like for automotive, healthcare, and energy creation and storage. All are very big topics that are local presence related computing. Transcript: https...
A Pathway to Green Data Centers?
December 24, 2021 21:44 - 58 minutes - 53.1 MBHow do we make data centers green because, fundamentally, they are going to use electricity. But the sources of that electricity, how we respond to shortages of electricity and cost signals about that electricity are all critical to consider. These are the questions that lead us to how a green data center or green infrastructure gets created. Our discussion also includes how infrastructure at the edge can play a role. Overall, there are A LOT of the factors that go into building and creat...
Evolution of Networking Systems
December 24, 2021 21:42 - 43 minutes - 39.4 MBHow do we evolve technology in the future? We centered the answer on networking, but in a very general way. The ability for a vendor to distribute technology and then connect things together and then build networks of that technology is a core component of how networking is evolving. Ultimately, this is about building technology systems. Sadly, that led us into a very dark place where we really thought through who's going to own all of that infrastructure and their motivations. How can ...
Software Supply Chains [#Log4Shell]
December 17, 2021 22:00 - 53 minutes - 48.7 MBOur scheduled topic was supply chains generally, but the Log4Shell vulnerability dominated the discussion. We dove into the challenge of patching and fixing a library that is literally in nearly every device or service for years and years. That led us to supply chains in the context of software, and specifically Java Log4j. This is a critical topic and our conversation about it was very thoughtful. We really covered the angles of what it takes to produce and maintain a supply chain for sof...
Broader Impacts of AWS Outage
December 17, 2021 21:51 - 1 hour - 56.7 MBWe discussed the Amazon outage of December 7. Instead of simply blaming Amazon, we went looking for how the outage impacted people globally. We considered how hyper scalars are being treated and how these outages can be avoided or understood. We focused on who is impacted and what companies who are building on top of Cloud providers can do going forward. We really took a classic Cloud 2030 approach for a very important and timely topic. Enjoy our discussion about the business impacts, un...
What is Platform Engineering?
December 10, 2021 22:25 - 47 minutes - 43.2 MBWhat is platform engineering? And why is it necessary and how to make it work compared to DevOps. In this conversation, we really hit on the challenges of creating automation teams for building automation in scalable ways. Frustratingly, we never really came up with a particularly good answer to “what is a platform team” and why you should care. Strangely, your organization is probably building one. Transcript https://otter.ai/u/zJeQbqXIyD8kZUxfKQdvQAfQGog Image: https://www.pexels.com/p...
A Path for Cloud Standardization?
December 10, 2021 22:19 - 56 minutes - 52 MBWe discuss standards, de facto standards, and cloud standards. It comes down to how we are creating repeatable results for the cloud marketplace. Ideally, we're creating marketplaces where standards can be shared. We’d consider Amazon as the primary example, but we also talk about hardware and Kubernetes which have their own marketplaces. Ultimately, we asked if we are creating standardized cloud infrastructure? The short answer is no. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/kGT8pGfbslZRgFktM0pE...
Serverless At The Edge
December 04, 2021 00:17 - 44 minutes - 41.1 MBServerless at the edge, part one. This is a dynamic and engaged conversation with key questions like: What is serverless? Do we need serverless? How is edge serverless different than cloud serverless? We see edge environments as collecting data from sensors that needs to be heterogeneous, multi vendor, dynamic and centralized. But where centralized? I think that the serverless aspect of this really drives home the idea that we need to be able to make small, quick, easy updates into an edg...
Securing Software Supply Chains
December 04, 2021 00:08 - 48 minutes - 44.1 MBToday we talked about supply chains, but mainly security and the security aspects of supply chains because we have a very serious challenges here. We have made software and on boarding software for developers so easy, but haven't put the same efforts in how to manage production systems! The team really talked about what it takes to build production systems that respect security, supply chains, dependency graphs, and inclusion in a way that cross teams. It's an incredibly important topic, a...
Ops Research and Mapping
November 19, 2021 22:32 - 37 minutes - 34.5 MBWe explored Operations Value mapping. This lead to an a very interesting discussions of complexity budgets and how to measure complexity budgets. This includes managing supply chain, and value pipelines, and system coupling. Complexity budgets could be a very powerful measuring tool for understanding operations value In an organization. Overall, this helps you explain the cost of complexity to organizational leadership. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/T1jXorfZO6Yc7fovBEXKgxSnxao Image...
Supply Chain Disruption and Recovery
November 19, 2021 22:32 - 19 minutes - 18.1 MBToday's episode is about supply chains but with a Cloud2030 twist. We focused on forward leaning futures by looking into how supply chains are being disrupted. It's going to be hard to get them working again if they can ever come back! Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/fBMFUh1TtBwdFvh7q0tKgpwW7kA Image: https://www.pexels.com/photo/buildings-cars-city-cross-harbour-tunnel-262100/
Implementing Biometric Privacy at the Camera?
November 12, 2021 20:33 - 33 minutes - 31 MBWe start talking about conferences using biometric security, edge detection, and included your right to be forgotten. In this fascinating conversation, we go into future projections of what it's going to take for people get privacy including the idea of using AI so face are left out the photographs! Would be possible? If so, what would drive that as potential thing. We started it humorously thinking about all the cameras and all the biometrics that could be collected during AWS reinvent...
Why are Backups so Tricky?
November 12, 2021 20:32 - 45 minutes - 42.1 MBWhy are Backups so Tricky? Backups are really, really tricky! We talk through a lot of different things that you have to consider in making successful backups like security, resilience, how you store the data, how you recover the data and rebuild the systems. Basically, we ran the gamut on backup challenges. You really need to think through a lot of the considerations! Our discussion will help make you better at backups. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/icmWxa0LmLT1Um-uAVWwGFc9Wq4 Photo by...
You need an IaC Pipeline! [KubeCon & VMworld retro]
November 06, 2021 15:46 - 54 minutes - 50 MBWe talk about Infrastructure as Code through a Kubernetes filter. We started with a check in on KubeCon and VMworld, both of which had just ended. Both of those shows are very relevant in our IaC discussion and considerations because we dig into how we build on those platforms. Ultimately, that lead to the idea of pipelines and processes for building sustainable automation and operations. That got into very interesting places! Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/O1UZds25tjCKUr0337HHOo-hxu4 Ph...
Does Business Value Mapping Deliver?
November 06, 2021 15:14 - 52 minutes - 47.9 MBToday's episode is about business value mapping. Instead of focusing on Ray Wang's "Who wants to rule the world" book, we got really deep into the why. We discuss what is business value mapping, how it works, why it works, when it doesn't work, and what it takes to make it succeed. So if you've read Ray's book, I think you'll get a lot of extra depth out of this, if you haven't read it at all, it might be a good primer on why you want to learn more about business value mapping and how to ...
Can we Secure SaaS? RE: Facebook & Twitch
October 22, 2021 21:05 - 20 minutes - 18.9 MBDuring this 20 minute check-in we dive security and SaaS infrastructure. Can we protect the secrets that people are trusting to SaaS providers to store for us? The topic was inspired by the Twitch leak where a lot of sensitive information was exposed exposed to the public. That comes on the heels of all sorts of other leaks, compromises and down time on systems. Overall, it seems like bad news is coming faster and faster for operators. The fundamental question is NOT can we trust a SaaS p...
Does Minimal Viable Product (MVP) work?
October 22, 2021 20:51 - 40 minutes - 36.7 MBToday's episode is about Minimal Viable Product (MVP) which is a product development process focused on learning. It is an important element to building good resilient products and spending the right amount of time doing the right things. But it's not a cure all! It might be right for what you're trying to accomplish. In this podcast, we really go through when MVP works, when it doesn't work, and what goals to set when using minimal viable product. This podcast will make you think about...
Edge Networking: Facebook, BGP and 5G
October 15, 2021 20:00 - 1 hour - 56.3 MBEdge networking is hard! Because before we can talk about edge networking, we actually have to talk about edge management and edge control, and what it takes to build resilient infrastructure and train people to use it. In the first half, we're talking about the challenges of managing infrastructure, using the Facebook outage of the week we recorded as a starting point for how challenging it is to build resilient infrastructure. In the second, we talk about edge networking with solid in...
Is AI the Future Of Conferences?
October 15, 2021 20:00 - 1 hour - 57.6 MBWhat was working what wasn't working with conferences. But in traditional Cloud2030 style, we dove into the future, what would make great conferences, what makes conferences good, what made them good in the past and what technology changes we think could be coming in the future. We extended that from conferences into meetings and meeting technology and transcription in the second half of this podcast. We really dive into how to help people connect together better since that's what conferen...
Certificate Management (Let's Encrypt Expiry)
October 08, 2021 21:24 - 1 hour - 58.8 MBUnderstanding and Managing Certificates is a critical operational skill in which we cover the basics and then go deeper. If you are familiar with SSL HTTPS, you are using certificates on a daily basis. And yet, actual management of trust and root CA is and distributing private and public keys or distributing public keys and managing private keys is tricky. Even our expert panel still struggles while we understand what's going on. One of the challenges with this is in education and having pe...
Modular Automation via Pipelines and Digital Twins
October 08, 2021 21:18 - 37 minutes - 34.4 MBToday's episode, we talked about the challenge of making Modular Automation. We broke down why that is so hard and really dug into ways in which we can increase the modularity and reuse of automation. That led us to talking about infrastructure pipelines, infrastructure, reuse, and sharing state via digital twins in infrastructure. All of this comes together really fascinating ways! Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/O1KFCsmEpMpV-hNZjTzJ_ewxaUA Photo by Alena Darmel from Pexels [ID 7751055]
Deep Dive into Secrets Management
October 01, 2021 20:58 - 52 minutes - 48.3 MBWe go into the details about Secrets Management. We explore how the process works, and how to do it right. We also cover the alternatives. This podcast is for you if you are trying to understand how secrets management works. We cover different scenarios where it can be applied, and where can go wrong. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/SvO6_I3RIiGmc2FLJM70y9xoQB4 Photo by Anna Shvets from Pexels [ID 4587991]
A Peak Of Trustability?
October 01, 2021 20:47 - 52 minutes - 48.4 MB"The peak of trustability" came up during our discussion of Trust in general. We really unwound what trust means starting from simple concepts like credentials and certificates and other security items. We got to a point where trust is also about software supply chain! Security includes how much you keep up with changes and what the latest things are. Then we realized that trust has an important time value: you don't trust, initially, you build trust, and then you lose trust. This creates...
Continuous Infrastructure Automation
September 24, 2021 20:55 - 49 minutes - 45.3 MBContinuous Infrastructure Automation is a critical concept about driving much more resilient and repeatable systems. As we build out applications on infrastructure, we should not treat them as a static deployment. Instead, we should think of infrastructure as constantly evolving, growing and changing. There's a lot of technology and challenges in building that! In discussion, we firmly believe that this is the right path, but the path to get there is challenging. There are a lot of compone...
Your next DC...Edge or Cloud?
September 24, 2021 20:36 - 50 minutes - 46.3 MBCloud versus Edge? This panel dove into what makes edge different than cloud. There are a lot of different technical and commercial drivers. And fundamentally, it matters who owns the sources of data and how data sources are different. This underscores how it is critical to understand data sources, infrastructure ownership, and how everything fits together. This discussion will change to you rethink what makes Edge different than Cloud. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/y2ubHGGIhY31hRyiV6m...
Topics for a Security Training Course
September 17, 2021 20:58 - 52 minutes - 48.2 MBDevOps Lunch and Learn was about security practices. Specifically, we built an outline of topics in security that we think are necessary for developers and operators to build secure applications. We basically built a week long course curriculum! As we go through what this course curriculum we walk through who needs to know this information and why. If you want to see all of the detail here, please see: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x5QLP77mg2Dml_tWsK6IH66GPohF0B_Lvz4lUmZFXZQ/edit#hea...
Edge Impact of Digital Twins
September 17, 2021 20:49 - 48 minutes - 44.7 MBWe talk about Digital Twins and the Edge with Simon Crosby from Swim.AI. They are literally building digital twins in edge locations so he has a lot to share. We work to expand and understand how Simon's experience translates into general cases and what we're seeing in the edge. The systems that we're trying to build are at the intersection of models and "connectedness" of all the components for the edge. These designs don't fit traditional models and it is what makes edge unique. Ed...
Distributed Infrastructure
September 10, 2021 23:30 - 57 minutes - 52.7 MBWith Distributed Infrastructure and the Edge, we cover the challenges of managing applications that are, by definition spread out throughout heterogeneous infrastructure. Distributed Control is designed to control systems that are are not in cloud data centers with localized compute and storage. But then how do we manage it? We discussed details about how these systems get built, and kept coming back to "do we need to have localized processing?" If we do, how do we manage it? Transcript:...
That's Not Terraform Orchestration!
September 10, 2021 20:38 - 44 minutes - 40.6 MBThis episode is about Terraform orchestration, what some people might call a TACO, in which we actually tried to do cloud provisioning in a orchestrated way. But this is a really challenging thing to do! Orchestration is really hard so our discussion kept coming back to saying that this isn't orchestration at all: it's Infrastructure as Code and management. We need to find a consistent way to to run a workflow or a control plane. We're not even getting to the point where we're coordinating...