Fredrik talks to Sallyann Freudenberg - “Agile/Lean coach and practitioner, psychology of software development researcher, neuro-diversity advocate, ageing punk-rocker.” - about her research into pair programming, offices for everyone and how people actually (do not) split work when pair programming.


We also discuss what makes an expert an expert? What are lists and verbalization really good for? Research versus practise and how and what each side can learn from the other. And why the rift is there in the first place. The goals and methods of the two groups are pretty different.


We talked ina surprisingly noisy hotel lobby, so apologies for all the background noise. The conversation is clear enough that further filtering mostly made everything sound worse.


This episode was recorded during the developer conference Øredev 2015, where Sallyann gave a keynote presentation.


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Links

Understanding and supporting neurodiversity in software development- Sallyann’s keynote at Øredev 2015
Sallyann’s research
Etnographic studies
Legitimate peripheral participation
Laura Plonka
Neurodiversity
The art of thought - Graham Wallas in 1926 on the four stages of creativity
Daniel Friedman
Ivan Moore - tea-driven development
Micki Chi
Verbal overshadowing
Cognitive offload
Laurent Bossavit - The leprechauns of software engineering

Titles

More about everything
Commercial pair programmers
The softer, broader stuff
The benefits of pair programming
We end up with everybody being better
Knocking down all the offices with sledge hammers
What I’d like to see is a blended environment
14500 pieces of pair programmer dialogue
We want to think we’re so structured
Everybody needs a quiet space from time to time
My sample size of one

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