Kat, Moose and Producer Sara talk about the forthcoming change of seasons, and a new website that Moose & Producer Sara have curated. Timing is everything, Moose talks to her therapist about the same 'ol shit and runs into a former version of herself. We explore childlike curiosity, the sacred spiral and Kat is reading another novel. Moose asks Kat to explain why community is important, Moose is willing to be present and maybe we don't need to pray so much for our enemies. 


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