htmx: a new old way to build the web

Carson Gross (creator of htmx) & Alex Russell (Mr. Web Platform 3000) join Amal for an EPIC discussion on web architectures, the evolution of rendering patterns & the advantages of hypermedia and htmx. We dive deep on why modern web app best practices are falling short & explore how htmx gives devs an HTML-first approach to use tech that’s over 20 years old. Tune in to learn a new way to do something old, so you can simplify your code & use JavaScript when/where it’s uniquely able to shine ✨

Carson Gross (creator of htmx) & Alex Russell (Mr. Web Platform 3000) join Amal for an EPIC discussion on web architectures, the evolution of rendering patterns & the advantages of hypermedia and htmx. We dive deep on why modern web app best practices are falling short & explore how htmx gives devs an HTML-first approach to use tech that’s over 20 years old.

Tune in to learn a new way to do something old, so you can simplify your code & use JavaScript when/where it’s uniquely able to shine ✨

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Featuring:

chg – Twitter, GitHubAlex Russell – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, WebsiteAmal Hussein – Twitter, GitHub

Show Notes:

htmx site and docs
EPIC htmx Twitter
Hypermedia Wikipedia
Hypermedia Systems - A free digital book from Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Aksimsek
Hypermedia Reintroduction (from Hypermedia Systems book)
Infrequently - Alex Russell’s EPIC blog
The Market for Lemons
Performance Inequality Series from Alex Russell
Netflix Web Performance Case Study (refactoring the Netflix login to vanilla html, js and css)
Roy Fielding’s Dissertation on REST
REST APIs Must Be Hypertext-Driven
HATEOAS Wikipedia
Open Web Advocacy Group
Open UI Group
The Website vs Web App Dichotomy Doesn’t Exist
As We May Type
More Capable Form Controls
Fun Hacks for Faster Content
Google jsaction lib on Github
Intercooler.js (Carson’s precursor to htmx)

Previous Changelog interviews with Carson Gross on htmx:

Is htmx the way to Go? (Go Time #266)
Less JavaScript more htmx (JS Party #171)

The Market for Lemons - Diagram on Session & Interaction Depth vs Application Architectures (referenced in our podcast discussion)

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!