In episode 12, Dónal speaks to English conductor Andrew Nunn, the Artistic Director of the National Youth Choir of Northern Ireland. They discuss Andrew's introduction to singing a bit later in life, coming into the choral world as an instrumentalist. They also chat about the impact of a conductor's gender on the choir and the process of mourning what we've lost in the wake of the 2020 pandemic.

To find out about the new IIMS online conducting course with Michael T. Dawson, visit www.irishinstituteofmusic.com.