Today we are joined by psychedelic activist and founder of MAPS, Rick Doblin. In this conversation, Alli and Rick discuss the hopeful potential of bringing psychedelics to the masses for celebration, healing, and changing the world. Rick shares his personal insights from MDMA and LSD, reflecting on the fact of death and how realizing it's impermanence helped him live a better life.


He shares how psychedelics can be used for heart-opening and healing PTSD. He and Alli discuss the process of legalization and the importance of languaging when it comes to speaking to the masses. 


He also shares the inspiring journey of founding MAPS and how the vision has expanded over time.




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TIMESTAMPS:


0:00 Intro


2:32 Facing the Fact of Death


6:31 Rick’s LSD Awakening to Life’s Impermanence 


20:23 The Essence of MDMA: Opening the Heart


33:28 Similarities of Meditation & MDMA 


35:30 Using Psychedelics to Process Trauma in Real Time


49:56 Language Used in Psychedelic Policy 


1:02:16 Speaking to the Masses Across Party Lines


1:16:00 The Journey of MAPS & What’s Coming Next


1:34:06 Conscious Capitalism: Changing the Way We See Profit


1:41:00 “This Timeless Moment” Reflecting on Death


1:43:58 Rick’s Most Important Lesson from Psychedelics


1:45:30 Conclusion






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Rick Doblin: 




MAPS: https://maps.org


Rick's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rickdoblinphd/




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