Our guest is Ad Krikke, leadership partner at Gartner. Rob and Ad talk about how trust not fear is the key to success in the cyber challenge confronting business, and at the heart of building a sustainable digital economy.

Ad was the Chief Information Security Officer or CISO for DSM and the chairman of the multinational Information Sharing and Analysis Center in the Netherlands until he made his move to Gartner in April 2019, where he now supports various CISOs of multinationals throughout Europe. He also lectures at the universities of Maastricht and Antwerp on the topic of cyber security. In 2018, he wrote a book on the ‘A Sustainable Digital Economy.’

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