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The Art World: What If...?!

227 episodes - English - Latest episode: 13 days ago - ★★★★★ - 116 ratings

What if we reimagined everything in culture, from painting to patronage? Tune in to The Art World: What If…?! to hear leading thinkers, creators and innovators in art rethink the system, exploring the consequences with wit, wisdom and humor.

Join art journalist Charlotte Burns and world-renowned art advisor Allan Schwartzman as they exclusively interview museum leaders, collectors and artists including MoMA director Glenn Lowry, Guggenheim deputy director Naomi Beckwith, non-profit leader Kemi Ilesanmi, curator Cecilia Alemani and Sandra Jackson-Dumont, the director of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art and many others over the course of the series.

From the team behind In Other Words and Hope & Dread, The Art World: What If…?! is brought to you by Schwartzman& for Art& and produced by Studio Burns.

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#36: Talking Shop with Roberta Smith

July 19, 2018 11:00 - 50 minutes - 45.9 MB

“By now, I’m kind of an opinion machine,” says Roberta Smith, co-chief art critic for The New York Times in this special podcast recording with our host Charlotte Burns. “I would say all art that’s middling-to-great is a strike for freedom; is an expression of liberty,” Smith says. “It’s somebody asserting themselves in a new way. And that kind of newness, you can hear it in jazz, you can see it in painting. Most of us have the potential for newness.” Smith, who says she once “really tho...

#35: Magical Thinking with Sculptor Joel Shapiro

June 28, 2018 11:00 - 33 minutes - 30.3 MB

The American artist Joel Shapiro has been pioneering new forms in sculpture for more than five decades. He joins our host Charlotte Burns today to talk more about his art and his influences; his hopes and motivations; and about what, for him, defines great art. “I'm not talking magical thinking—but some level of rapture or depression or some level of emotionality that is not matter of fact, and I think that that's what artists want,” he says. “So when you see something like that, I don't thi...

The Art World: In Other Words, Magical Thinking with Sculptor Joel Shapiro

June 28, 2018 11:00 - 33 minutes - 30.3 MB

The American artist Joel Shapiro has been pioneering new forms in sculpture for more than five decades. He joins our host Charlotte Burns today to talk more about his art and his influences; his hopes and motivations; and about what, for him, defines great art. “I'm not talking magical thinking—but some level of rapture or depression or some level of emotionality that is not matter of fact, and I think that that's what artists want,” he says. “So when you see something like that, I don't thi...

The Art World: In Other Words, Collector Sylvio Perlstein on Trading Diamonds with Man Ray

June 15, 2018 02:36 - 24 minutes - 16.9 MB

“Because Sylvio is courageous, I was able to buy more hamburgers to keep up my strength, and more paint to continue painting,” said artist Robert Ryman about collector Sylvio Perlstein, who was a patron of his at a time when few others were interested. Born in Belgium, Perlstein grew up in Rio de Janeiro, where his family moved when fleeing the Nazis in 1939. Perlstein bought his first work of art from a florist in Brazil; over the course of the next five decades, he would add more than 1,...

#34: Collector Sylvio Perlstein on Trading Diamonds with Man Ray

June 15, 2018 02:36 - 24 minutes - 16.9 MB

“Because Sylvio is courageous, I was able to buy more hamburgers to keep up my strength, and more paint to continue painting,” said artist Robert Ryman about collector Sylvio Perlstein, who was a patron of his at a time when few others were interested. Born in Belgium, Perlstein grew up in Rio de Janeiro, where his family moved when fleeing the Nazis in 1939. Perlstein bought his first work of art from a florist in Brazil; over the course of the next five decades, he would add more than 1,...

The Art World: In Other Words, Don’t Stop Believing, with Artist Glenn Kaino

May 31, 2018 11:00 - 52 minutes - 47.8 MB

"When people ask me how to describe the work or describe myself, I always just start by saying artist," says Glenn Kaino. "Everything stems from the art practice." The visionary American conceptual artist's work has led him to become an off-Broadway producer, a performer, a magician, a social activist and the technological innovator who helped legalize the music download platform Napster.  A "horrible" trip to an art fair in 2008 caused Kaino to close his studio for a year, unhappy with ...

#33: Don’t Stop Believing, with Artist Glenn Kaino

May 31, 2018 11:00 - 52 minutes - 47.8 MB

"When people ask me how to describe the work or describe myself, I always just start by saying artist," says Glenn Kaino. "Everything stems from the art practice." The visionary American conceptual artist's work has led him to become an off-Broadway producer, a performer, a magician, a social activist and the technological innovator who helped legalize the music download platform Napster.  A "horrible" trip to an art fair in 2008 caused Kaino to close his studio for a year, unhappy with ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Our Take on the May 2018 Auctions

May 24, 2018 11:00 - 54 minutes - 37.5 MB

Huge sums of money—more than $2.6bn—have been spent on Impressionist, Modern and contemporary art over the past two weeks in New York. On today’s podcast, Nicholas Maclean (of London and New York dealership Eykyn Maclean) and Allan Schwartzman (co-founder of AAP), discuss with our host Charlotte Burns (editor of In Other Words), what happened: what the surprises were; what trends we can detect; and what's going to happen next.  Here are some choice soundbites: "It is a sign that the mark...

#32: Our Take on the May 2018 Auctions

May 24, 2018 11:00 - 54 minutes - 37.5 MB

Huge sums of money—more than $2.6bn—have been spent on Impressionist, Modern and contemporary art over the past two weeks in New York. On today’s podcast, Nicholas Maclean (of London and New York dealership Eykyn Maclean) and Allan Schwartzman (co-founder of AAP), discuss with our host Charlotte Burns (editor of In Other Words), what happened: what the surprises were; what trends we can detect; and what's going to happen next.  Here are some choice soundbites: "It is a sign that the mark...

#32: Our Take on the May 2018 Auctions

May 24, 2018 11:00 - 54 minutes - 37.5 MB

Huge sums of money—more than $2.6bn—have been spent on Impressionist, Modern and contemporary art over the past two weeks in New York. On today’s podcast, Nicholas Maclean (of London and New York dealership Eykyn Maclean) and Allan Schwartzman (co-founder of AAP), discuss with our host Charlotte Burns (editor of In Other Words), what happened: what the surprises were; what trends we can detect; and what's going to happen next.  Here are some choice soundbites: "It is a sign that the mark...

#31: Wrestling With Artist Carroll Dunham

May 17, 2018 11:00 - 39 minutes - 36.1 MB

“There’s no goal to being an artist—you keep doing it and then, in theory, one dies,” says Carroll Dunham, who Allan Schwartzman describes as one of the greatest painters of the past 40 years. Art is a “kind of lustful driving forwards” for Dunham, who has moved from abstraction to figuration over the course of his varied career. Works from his “Wrestlers” series are currently on show at Gladstone Gallery in New York (until 16 June). “I wanted to try to find a male equivalent to the women ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Wrestling With Artist Carroll Dunham

May 17, 2018 11:00 - 39 minutes - 36.1 MB

“There’s no goal to being an artist—you keep doing it and then, in theory, one dies,” says Carroll Dunham, who Allan Schwartzman describes as one of the greatest painters of the past 40 years. Art is a “kind of lustful driving forwards” for Dunham, who has moved from abstraction to figuration over the course of his varied career. Works from his “Wrestlers” series are currently on show at Gladstone Gallery in New York (until 16 June). “I wanted to try to find a male equivalent to the women ...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art World Outliers, With Lynne Cooke

May 03, 2018 11:00 - 52 minutes - 47.9 MB

One of the most talked about exhibitions this year, “Outliers and American Vanguard Art”, closes next week at the National Gallery of Art in Washington, DC (13 May), after which it will travel to the High Museum in Atlanta and then to LACMA.  Our guest today is Lynne Cooke, the senior curator of special projects at the NGA who spent five years researching the exhibition. Talking to our host Charlotte Burns, Cooke says much of the art on show was made by people on the peripheries, often in ...

#30: Art World Outliers, With Lynne Cooke

May 03, 2018 11:00 - 52 minutes - 47.9 MB

One of the most talked about exhibitions this year, “Outliers and American Vanguard Art”, closes next week at the National Gallery of Art in Washington, DC (13 May), after which it will travel to the High Museum in Atlanta and then to LACMA.  Our guest today is Lynne Cooke, the senior curator of special projects at the NGA who spent five years researching the exhibition. Talking to our host Charlotte Burns, Cooke says much of the art on show was made by people on the peripheries, often in ...

#29: The Future Of The Museum

April 19, 2018 12:00 - 1 hour - 55.9 MB

This week we bring you a special episode from Hong Kong, where we staged our first ever live In Other Words event on 29 March, a panel discussion on "The Future of The Museum”. Our guests included Michael Govan, director, Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA); Doryun Chong, deputy director and chief curator, M+ in Hong Kong; and Allan Schwartzman. The panel was introduced by Kevin Ching, CEO of Sotheby’s Asia and moderated by Charlotte Burns.  Joining us remotely was Budi Tek, the found...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Future Of The Museum

April 19, 2018 12:00 - 1 hour - 55.9 MB

This week we bring you a special episode from Hong Kong, where we staged our first ever live In Other Words event on 29 March, a panel discussion on "The Future of The Museum”. Our guests included Michael Govan, director, Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA); Doryun Chong, deputy director and chief curator, M+ in Hong Kong; and Allan Schwartzman. The panel was introduced by Kevin Ching, CEO of Sotheby’s Asia and moderated by Charlotte Burns.  Joining us remotely was Budi Tek, the found...

#28: The Man Behind Bowie: the V&A’s Geoffrey Marsh

April 05, 2018 13:36 - 43 minutes - 30 MB

Almost two million people so far have visited the blockbuster exhibition “David Bowie Is”, on show now at the Brooklyn Museum (until 15 July). The exhibition was masterminded by Geoffrey Marsh, the director of London's Victoria and Albert Museum (V&A) theater and performing arts department. He has organized several other major “immersive” exhibitions, harnessing state-of-the-art audio and visuals to tell narratives in new ways, such as “You Say You Want A Revolution? Records and Rebels 196...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Man Behind Bowie: the V&A’s Geoffrey Marsh

April 05, 2018 13:36 - 43 minutes - 30 MB

Almost two million people so far have visited the blockbuster exhibition “David Bowie Is”, on show now at the Brooklyn Museum (until 15 July). The exhibition was masterminded by Geoffrey Marsh, the director of London's Victoria and Albert Museum (V&A) theater and performing arts department. He has organized several other major “immersive” exhibitions, harnessing state-of-the-art audio and visuals to tell narratives in new ways, such as “You Say You Want A Revolution? Records and Rebels 196...

The Art World: In Other Words, What’s On The Menu, With Daniella Luxembourg & Amalia Dayan

March 22, 2018 11:00 - 42 minutes - 29.2 MB

The gallerists Daniella Luxembourg and Amalia Dayan specialize in cutting-edge Contemporary art and overlooked 20th-century art. They have in common with AAP co-founder Allan Schwartzman a passion for postwar Italian art and, during this podcast, the trio discuss the market for art from this period. They also discuss this current moment as one of real transition in the broader market, during which time tastes and demand are shifting. During the conversation, moderated by host Charlotte Bur...

#27: What’s On The Menu, With Daniella Luxembourg & Amalia Dayan

March 22, 2018 11:00 - 42 minutes - 29.2 MB

The gallerists Daniella Luxembourg and Amalia Dayan specialize in cutting-edge Contemporary art and overlooked 20th-century art. They have in common with AAP co-founder Allan Schwartzman a passion for postwar Italian art and, during this podcast, the trio discuss the market for art from this period. They also discuss this current moment as one of real transition in the broader market, during which time tastes and demand are shifting. During the conversation, moderated by host Charlotte Bur...

#26: The Art of Criticism with Jerry Saltz

March 08, 2018 12:00 - 39 minutes - 26.8 MB

Jerry Saltz, perhaps the most well-known art writer working today, has been the senior art critic of New York magazine since 2006. During this interview with our host Charlotte Burns, which was recorded in the downtown offices of New York magazine, Saltz talks about a range of topics: from how he approaches viewing and reviewing art, to what he calls the “ass-holeness” of his social media persona.  Before becoming a critic, Saltz was an artist and a long-distance truck driver, and he discu...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Art of Criticism with Jerry Saltz

March 08, 2018 12:00 - 39 minutes - 26.8 MB

Jerry Saltz, perhaps the most well-known art writer working today, has been the senior art critic of New York magazine since 2006. During this interview with our host Charlotte Burns, which was recorded in the downtown offices of New York magazine, Saltz talks about a range of topics: from how he approaches viewing and reviewing art, to what he calls the “ass-holeness” of his social media persona.  Before becoming a critic, Saltz was an artist and a long-distance truck driver, and he discu...

#25: Dealing Art with Thaddaeus Ropac

February 22, 2018 12:00 - 44 minutes - 30.4 MB

From fetching beer for Joseph Beuys to the implications of Brexit and new borders, the Austrian art dealer Thaddaeus Ropac talks frankly about a range of topics in a conversation with our host Charlotte Burns, including the dangers of becoming too corporate; plans for his own collection; and his expectations for the art market in 2018.  Recorded in London, where Galerie Thaddaeus Ropac recently opened a fifth space (there are four others across Salzburg and Paris), Ropac shares his views o...

The Art World: In Other Words, Dealing Art with Thaddaeus Ropac

February 22, 2018 12:00 - 44 minutes - 30.4 MB

From fetching beer for Joseph Beuys to the implications of Brexit and new borders, the Austrian art dealer Thaddaeus Ropac talks frankly about a range of topics in a conversation with our host Charlotte Burns, including the dangers of becoming too corporate; plans for his own collection; and his expectations for the art market in 2018.  Recorded in London, where Galerie Thaddaeus Ropac recently opened a fifth space (there are four others across Salzburg and Paris), Ropac shares his views o...

The Art World: In Other Words, Norman Rosenthal on Seducing the Audience

February 08, 2018 12:00 - 30 minutes - 21.2 MB

During his 31 years as the exhibitions secretary at London’s Royal Academy, Sir Norman Rosenthal staged groundbreaking exhibitions of art including the legendary show, “A New Spirit in Painting” (1981), which brought artists such as Joseph Beuys, Gerhard Richter and Georg Baselitz to broader recognition. "Art is entertainment, but entertainment in the best sense of the word," he says in our latest podcast, speaking to host Charlotte Burns. “Museums, in the end, are like cupboards. And with...

#24: Norman Rosenthal on Seducing the Audience

February 08, 2018 12:00 - 30 minutes - 21.2 MB

During his 31 years as the exhibitions secretary at London’s Royal Academy, Sir Norman Rosenthal staged groundbreaking exhibitions of art including the legendary show, “A New Spirit in Painting” (1981), which brought artists such as Joseph Beuys, Gerhard Richter and Georg Baselitz to broader recognition. "Art is entertainment, but entertainment in the best sense of the word," he says in our latest podcast, speaking to host Charlotte Burns. “Museums, in the end, are like cupboards. And with...

The Art World: In Other Words, Infinity and Beyond with Artist Tavares Strachan

January 25, 2018 12:30 - 32 minutes - 22.1 MB

Whether hauling ice from the Arctic, partnering with SpaceX or training as a deep-sea diver, the artist Tavares Strachan works on an ambitious scale—often at the cutting edge of technology. He largely operates beyond the gallery model, instead relying on patrons, partnerships and collaborations to create innovative works of art.  The Bahamian-born artist, who was recently appointed to the MIT and RISD boards, is interested in overlooked or forgotten histories and “operating in a state of p...

#23: Infinity and Beyond with Artist Tavares Strachan

January 25, 2018 12:30 - 32 minutes - 22.1 MB

Whether hauling ice from the Arctic, partnering with SpaceX or training as a deep-sea diver, the artist Tavares Strachan works on an ambitious scale—often at the cutting edge of technology. He largely operates beyond the gallery model, instead relying on patrons, partnerships and collaborations to create innovative works of art.  The Bahamian-born artist, who was recently appointed to the MIT and RISD boards, is interested in overlooked or forgotten histories and “operating in a state of p...

The Art World: In Other Words, Authority and Anxiety with MoMA Director Glenn Lowry

January 11, 2018 12:30 - 33 minutes - 22.7 MB

”In the particular political moment in which we live, the question of authority and voice has become increasingly important,” says Glenn Lowry, director of MoMA. ”Who has the right to speak for whom? How do we imagine someone else's voice?” In this wide-ranging conversation, Lowry describes the museum as a crucible during a ”very flammable moment” and talks about the role of culture today. He discusses technology at the museum and the value of thinking slowly. Talking with host Charlotte B...

#22: Authority and Anxiety with MoMA Director Glenn Lowry

January 11, 2018 12:30 - 33 minutes - 22.7 MB

”In the particular political moment in which we live, the question of authority and voice has become increasingly important,” says Glenn Lowry, director of MoMA. ”Who has the right to speak for whom? How do we imagine someone else's voice?” In this wide-ranging conversation, Lowry describes the museum as a crucible during a ”very flammable moment” and talks about the role of culture today. He discusses technology at the museum and the value of thinking slowly. Talking with host Charlotte B...

The Art World: In Other Words, Emerging Art with Whitney Biennial Curator Christopher Y. Lew

December 14, 2017 12:00 - 27 minutes - 19.1 MB

“We're in a moment where we are all paying attention to what's going on in the headlines. Many artists are thinking about what kind of world their work is entering into, and how to respond to or deal with the times we live in,” says Christopher Y. Lew, co-curator of the 2017 Whitney Biennial, who talks about his travels across America researching emerging art for the biennial. For a transcript of the show, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-21-transcript-christopher-y-lew...

#21: Emerging Art with Whitney Biennial Curator Christopher Y. Lew

December 14, 2017 12:00 - 27 minutes - 19.1 MB

“We're in a moment where we are all paying attention to what's going on in the headlines. Many artists are thinking about what kind of world their work is entering into, and how to respond to or deal with the times we live in,” says Christopher Y. Lew, co-curator of the 2017 Whitney Biennial, who talks about his travels across America researching emerging art for the biennial. For a transcript of the show, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-21-transcript-christopher-y-lew...

#20: Art and Desire with Walter Robinson

November 30, 2017 12:30 - 32 minutes - 22.6 MB

Artist Walter Robinson immortalizes appetites and desires in his work, painting beer, blue jeans and burgers, magazine models and pulpy paperback romances. Known as the founding editor of Artnet magazine, where he worked from 1996 until 2012, Robinson has been a habitual chronicler of the New York art world. He first flirted with success as an artist in the 1980s, making nurse paintings before Richard Prince and spin paintings before Damien Hirst. But, then, he stopped making art. Over the p...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art and Desire with Walter Robinson

November 30, 2017 12:30 - 32 minutes - 22.6 MB

Artist Walter Robinson immortalizes appetites and desires in his work, painting beer, blue jeans and burgers, magazine models and pulpy paperback romances. Known as the founding editor of Artnet magazine, where he worked from 1996 until 2012, Robinson has been a habitual chronicler of the New York art world. He first flirted with success as an artist in the 1980s, making nurse paintings before Richard Prince and spin paintings before Damien Hirst. But, then, he stopped making art. Over the p...

#19: Talking Art with Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman

November 16, 2017 12:00 - 37 minutes - 25.6 MB

From "Poor Art" to politics in art, in this wide-ranging conversation between curator and art historian Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman address topics including the ways in which the American art market has defined art history; how they work with artists to realize wildly ambitious projects; the difficulties in determining whether works are authentic; corruption in art; and rewriting the history of art. For this, and much more, tune in today. For a transcript, click here: bit.ly/IOWEp...

The Art World: In Other Words, Talking Art with Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman

November 16, 2017 12:00 - 37 minutes - 25.6 MB

From "Poor Art" to politics in art, in this wide-ranging conversation between curator and art historian Germano Celant and Allan Schwartzman address topics including the ways in which the American art market has defined art history; how they work with artists to realize wildly ambitious projects; the difficulties in determining whether works are authentic; corruption in art; and rewriting the history of art. For this, and much more, tune in today. For a transcript, click here: bit.ly/IOWEp...

#18: The Suit and the Sweater

November 02, 2017 16:00 - 30 minutes - 21.3 MB

The art industry is changing rapidly and, in this episode, Tad Smith (president and CEO of Sotheby's) and Allan Schwartzman discuss how they respond to the challenges and opportunities that this presents. Bringing different perspectives to the conversation, they discuss how to create change and foster innovation. "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm. For a transcript, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-18-transcript-tad-smit...

The Art World: In Other Words, The Suit and the Sweater

November 02, 2017 16:00 - 30 minutes - 21.3 MB

The art industry is changing rapidly and, in this episode, Tad Smith (president and CEO of Sotheby's) and Allan Schwartzman discuss how they respond to the challenges and opportunities that this presents. Bringing different perspectives to the conversation, they discuss how to create change and foster innovation. "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm. For a transcript, click here: http://www.artagencypartners.com/episode-18-transcript-tad-smit...

The Art World: In Other Words, with Gilbert & George

October 19, 2017 12:00 - 34 minutes - 23.7 MB

“The strength of two people together is enormous. That's why, all over the world, people and creatures are divided into two.” Artists Gilbert & George have been creating "Art for All" since they met as students in the 1960s. “In the old days, when we were socially involved with artists, they always would tell you they're always nervous of what to do next. We never had that problem. We were always really ready for whatever,” say the inimitable duo during this lively discussion about their wor...

#17: Gilbert & George

October 19, 2017 12:00 - 34 minutes - 23.7 MB

“The strength of two people together is enormous. That's why, all over the world, people and creatures are divided into two.” Artists Gilbert & George have been creating "Art for All" since they met as students in the 1960s. “In the old days, when we were socially involved with artists, they always would tell you they're always nervous of what to do next. We never had that problem. We were always really ready for whatever,” say the inimitable duo during this lively discussion about their wor...

#16: Contemporary African Art

October 05, 2017 12:00 - 32 minutes - 22.3 MB

“Romare Bearden was asked in a 1972 interview with Camille Billops how he would define black art, and he said that black art is the art that black artists do,” says Tate's Zoe Whitley. "If someone were to say: 'What is white art?' you might say the Italian Renaissance, but you could equally say the German Renaissance, Rembrandt or English painting. Black art is as varied as that.” Joining us in London to discuss contemporary African art are Zoe Whitley, the curator and writer Osei Bonsu, a...

The Art World: In Other Words, Contemporary African Art

October 05, 2017 12:00 - 32 minutes - 22.3 MB

“Romare Bearden was asked in a 1972 interview with Camille Billops how he would define black art, and he said that black art is the art that black artists do,” says Tate's Zoe Whitley. "If someone were to say: 'What is white art?' you might say the Italian Renaissance, but you could equally say the German Renaissance, Rembrandt or English painting. Black art is as varied as that.” Joining us in London to discuss contemporary African art are Zoe Whitley, the curator and writer Osei Bonsu, a...

The Art World: In Other Words, Lust for Life—Collecting Art with Herbert Lust

September 21, 2017 12:00 - 23 minutes - 16.5 MB

A literature professor and Fulbright scholar turned investment banker, 90-year old Herbert Lust has one of the leading collections of works by artists including Alberto Giacometti, Robert Indiana and Hans Bellmer, among others.  Lust, who in 1969 wrote one of the first books about art collecting as an investment, talks to our host Charlotte Burns about his extraordinary life, discussing his friendships with artists and passing along some advice for collectors. “Robert Indiana: Works from...

#15: Lust for Life—Collecting Art with Herbert Lust

September 21, 2017 12:00 - 23 minutes - 16.5 MB

A literature professor and Fulbright scholar turned investment banker, 90-year old Herbert Lust has one of the leading collections of works by artists including Alberto Giacometti, Robert Indiana and Hans Bellmer, among others.  Lust, who in 1969 wrote one of the first books about art collecting as an investment, talks to our host Charlotte Burns about his extraordinary life, discussing his friendships with artists and passing along some advice for collectors. “Robert Indiana: Works from...

#14: New World Disorder with Tate’s Gregor Muir

September 07, 2017 12:00 - 32 minutes - 22.1 MB

"People really want to deal with the present, but it's just extremely difficult to get a grasp of where we are now," says Gregor Muir, Tate's Director of Collection, International Art. Grappling with issues of how to think internationally during a period of increasing nationalism, Muir talks about how (and where) he is looking to discover great art. This broad-ranging conversation covers topics ranging from the technological revolution to Muir's own experiences moving between commercial ga...

The Art World: In Other Words, New World Disorder with Tate’s Gregor Muir

September 07, 2017 12:00 - 32 minutes - 22.1 MB

"People really want to deal with the present, but it's just extremely difficult to get a grasp of where we are now," says Gregor Muir, Tate's Director of Collection, International Art. Grappling with issues of how to think internationally during a period of increasing nationalism, Muir talks about how (and where) he is looking to discover great art. This broad-ranging conversation covers topics ranging from the technological revolution to Muir's own experiences moving between commercial ga...

The Art World: In Other Words, Art Can Change the World, with Hans Ulrich Obrist

August 17, 2017 12:56 - 20 minutes - 14.3 MB

For the first of three special feature episodes from London, we are joined by Hans Ulrich Obrist, the artistic director of the Serpentine Galleries. The endlessly energetic Obrist—who has himself interviewed more than 300 people throughout his career, from artists and architects to scientists and philosophers—talks to our host Charlotte Burns about how art can change the world and shape new realities.  "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm. For...

#13: Art Can Change the World, with Hans Ulrich Obrist

August 17, 2017 12:56 - 20 minutes - 14.3 MB

For the first of three special feature episodes from London, we are joined by Hans Ulrich Obrist, the artistic director of the Serpentine Galleries. The endlessly energetic Obrist—who has himself interviewed more than 300 people throughout his career, from artists and architects to scientists and philosophers—talks to our host Charlotte Burns about how art can change the world and shape new realities.  "In Other Words" is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby's, produced by Audiation.fm. For...

The Art World: In Other Words, Reshaping Museums with Michael Govan

July 20, 2017 11:30 - 35 minutes - 24.4 MB

Michael Govan, the director and CEO of the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, joins us for a special feature podcast from California. We talk about the future for Lacma—from the transformation of the campus to the possibilities of sharing the collection and opening branches elsewhere. We discuss subjects from fundraising and philanthropy in LA, the role of museums in brokering cultural identities and the importance of "embracing the power of difference" to VR technology in art. "In Other Wo...

#12: Reshaping Museums with Michael Govan

July 20, 2017 11:30 - 35 minutes - 24.4 MB

Michael Govan, the director and CEO of the Los Angeles County Museum of Art, joins us for a special feature podcast from California. We talk about the future for Lacma—from the transformation of the campus to the possibilities of sharing the collection and opening branches elsewhere. We discuss subjects from fundraising and philanthropy in LA, the role of museums in brokering cultural identities and the importance of "embracing the power of difference" to VR technology in art. "In Other Wo...

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