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The Art World: What If...?!

226 episodes - English - Latest episode: 21 days ago - ★★★★★ - 116 ratings

What if we reimagined everything in culture, from painting to patronage? Tune in to The Art World: What If…?! to hear leading thinkers, creators and innovators in art rethink the system, exploring the consequences with wit, wisdom and humor.

Join art journalist Charlotte Burns and world-renowned art advisor Allan Schwartzman as they exclusively interview museum leaders, collectors and artists including MoMA director Glenn Lowry, Guggenheim deputy director Naomi Beckwith, non-profit leader Kemi Ilesanmi, curator Cecilia Alemani and Sandra Jackson-Dumont, the director of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art and many others over the course of the series.

From the team behind In Other Words and Hope & Dread, The Art World: What If…?! is brought to you by Schwartzman& for Art& and produced by Studio Burns.

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The Art World: What If...?! with Kemi Ilesanmi

April 04, 2024 05:30 - 47 minutes - 64.6 MB

We welcome back Kemi Ilesanmi, the former executive director of the Laundromat Project and one of the standout stars of our first season. In season one, Kemi was just about to head off on the trip of a lifetime around 13 countries, including ten in Africa. She promised to come back and tell us how the trip changed her ‘What Ifs.’ “I'm looking for freedom of movement, freedom of ideas, and freedom of manifestation of those ideas. Right now, it feels like I can only find that by working outsid...

The Art World: What If...?! with Koyo Kouoh ~ Part 2

March 28, 2024 09:00 - 31 minutes - 43.5 MB

For the second part of our interview with Koyo Kouoh, the chief curator and executive director of Zeitz MOCAA, we hear about how she has worked to overhaul the infrastructure of the institution internally as well as better connect the museum externally within Cape Town. Koyo talks about how “colonialism as an enterprise, as a model of global relating, has done a lot of harm that we are still mending and attending to.” She says: “That is a field of thinking, a space of emotion and knowledge t...

The Art World: What If...?! with Koyo Kouoh ~ Part 1

March 21, 2024 05:00 - 38 minutes - 53 MB

Joining us from Cape Town in South Africa is Koyo Kouoh, the chief curator and executive director of Zeitz MOCAA for the first in a two-part special. Originally destined for a career in finance, Koyo talks about her journey into the art world, and from Basel in Switzerland to Dakar in Senegal, where she founded RAW Material Company in 2008. She tells us about her move to South Africa in 2019 to take over at Zeitz MOCAA, a new institution, but one in crisis. “We need to take the time to do th...

The Art World: What If...?! With Barbara Gladstone

March 14, 2024 22:06 - 1 hour - 89.5 MB

Legendary art dealer Barbara Gladstone joins us for a very rare interview from the studio in New York. What would she do differently if she started a gallery today? “I probably wouldn't do it,” she says.  Barbara has been at the top of the business since the 1980s and now represents more than 70 artists and estates. She tells us how she started out with a small print business, and how things developed from there. We talk about art now, the future of the gallery, and what she would change a...

The Art World: What If...?! with Phillip Ihenacho

March 07, 2024 06:00 - 53 minutes - 73.9 MB

“West African culture is starting to become the future” says Phillip Ihenacho, the director of the newly established Museum of West African Art. What if you built a new museum in West Africa, where a glorious ancient history contrasts with a brutal colonial one? What if we really considered the full meaning of restitution and repair? Can a cultural organisation build a stable financial future by becoming its own landlord? Phillip and his team are building not just a new museum — but an entir...

The Art World: What If...?! with Jarl Mohn

February 29, 2024 06:00 - 55 minutes - 76.8 MB

In this episode, we welcome Jarl Mohn, the LA art collector and philanthropist who founded the E! Entertainment network in his professional life, among other impressive media and business ventures. Jarl became a DJ at a young age, partly in an attempt to escape the realities of life in a state foster home. Success in his professional career led him to the art world - which he initially distrusted as an industry “designed to take advantage of idiots like us”. Jarl talks to us about what chang...

The Art World: What If...?! with Hoor Al Qasimi

February 22, 2024 06:00 - 47 minutes - 65 MB

What if we write our own histories? What if we create the change we seek?  In this episode, we talk to the President and Director of Sharjah Art Foundation, Hoor Al Qasimi, under whose watch, Sharjah has become one of the most influential centers for cultural creation and research in the Global South. From revamping art biennials to creating new universities, overseeing architectural triennials, running a fashion house, sitting on international museum boards, to curating large and small scal...

The Art World: What If...?! with Salome Asega

February 15, 2024 06:00 - 42 minutes - 58.1 MB

Described as the “next generation of leadership”, in this episode we welcome Salome Asega, the director of NEW INC in New York and an accomplished artist, whose work is at the cutting edge of creativity and technology. Salome’s ability to look towards—and build—the future shines through in this conversation with host Charlotte Burns. Part of her work at NEW INC, she says, is about creating chance encounters for creative people that feel like “choosing your own adventure.” What if we focused ...

The Art World: What If...?! with Alvaro Barrington

February 08, 2024 06:00 - 51 minutes - 70.5 MB

In this episode host Charlotte Burns is joined by artist Alvaro Barrington, who brings as much generosity of spirit to this conversation as he does to his art practice. Fundamentally curious, Alvaro wants to connect with as many people as possible and to make art that is as relevant to people today as Hip Hop was to him as a kid growing up in New York in the 1990s. But, as the art world has expanded, he says, it’s also become narrower in terms of who gets in. Alvaro is interested in changing...

The Art World: What If...?! with Jessica Morgan

February 01, 2024 06:00 - 41 minutes - 56.4 MB

We’re back! In this episode, host Charlotte Burns talks to Jessica Morgan, the director of the Dia Art Foundation. She has revitalized the institution, which is celebrating its 50th anniversary, since arriving in 2015, bringing new energy and distinct vision to the museum and creating change behind-the-scenes as much as she has to the work on display. In this episode Jessica talks openly about the museum field, from funding structures to her future plans, from unions to boards. What if Jessi...

The Art World: What If...?! with Alice Smith

January 25, 2024 06:00 - 39 minutes - 54.2 MB

Welcome back to The Art World: What If…?! the podcast all about imagining new futures. To kick off the second season in style, host Charlotte Burns is joined by the phenomenally talented, Grammy-nominated, singer and songwriter, Alice Smith who is, she says, currently at work on her masterpiece. This is a frank, free — and very fun — conversation, with lots of surprises. Alice delves into what it really means to be creative, and why it matters. What if she could pick her dream role? You migh...

Introducing Series 2 ~ The Art World: What If... ?!

January 18, 2024 14:18 - 56 seconds - 1.29 MB

Welcome back to The Art World: What If... ?! the podcast all about imagining new and better futures. There are some fantastic guests lined up for this second season, leading creative thinkers from all around the world, ready to talk to our hosts Allan Schwartzman and Charlotte Burns. Tune in! New episodes drop every Thursday starting 25 January.

The Art World: What If...?! with Deana Haggag, Mia Locks and Jay Sanders

April 13, 2023 05:00 - 41 minutes - 57.6 MB

This time hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman welcome their team of editorial advisors Deana Haggag, Mia Locks and Jay Sanders. They’re the brilliant trio who’ve helped steer this season’s conversations acting as an independent sounding board lending editorial advice and expertise - all essential in the creation of this podcast. This is (almost) the season finale - so time to reflect and look back at some of the surprises, delights and, of course, the many "What Ifs". Listen out in t...

The Art World: What If...?! Glenstone special, with Emily Rales

April 06, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 85.5 MB

What if we supported artists in taking moonshots?  This week we’re taking a tour around Glenstone museum in Potomac, Maryland - one of the largest and most ambitious private institutions in America, fusing art, architecture and nature. This wide-ranging conversation between Glenstone’s co-founder and director, Emily Rales and host Charlotte Burns covers the art inside the museum and how to create more meaningful visitor experiences, to the Glenstone foundation and future philanthropic plans....

The Art World: What If...?! with Pope.L

March 30, 2023 05:00 - 35 minutes - 48.7 MB

What if we made more mess? What if we could sit with discomfort?  This time Charlotte Burns talks to one of her heroes, the artist Pope.L. Probably best known for his public performance art including his legendary crawls, Pope.L has risked his own safety for his work — and he isn’t finished yet. An artist whose practice is as varied as it is profound, Pope.L makes art across media, time and space. He talks to Charlotte about his new work for a major exhibition involving confederacy monumen...

The Art World: What If...?! with Kathy Halbreich

March 23, 2023 05:00 - 49 minutes - 67.6 MB

What if we trusted artists more? This episode Charlotte Burns is joined by Kathy Halbreich, the outgoing director of the Robert Rauschenberg Foundation, who’s led some of the most dynamic institutions in the art world. They discuss freedom, finances and what the future holds for museums and those who work in them. “You could not pay me enough money to be a museum director at this point in my life,” says Kathy. “Maybe that's just because I really know what the job is and I think it is one of ...

The Art World: What If...?! with Allan Schwartzman

March 16, 2023 05:00 - 37 minutes - 52.1 MB

Time to take stock this episode with hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman. We look back at some of the big ideas that have emerged throughout the series so far. From change and creativity, to finance and futures, we discuss what’s amazed, delighted—and even filled us with hope. "I think a lot more about excess than abundance," says Allan. "There is a generosity with which the word abundance has been used by a number of the people we've interviewed. I think that that sense of generosit...

The Art World: What If...?! LA Special with Cauleen Smith and Kibum Kim

March 09, 2023 06:00 - 53 minutes - 73 MB

We’re still in the city of angels for our second special episode asking ‘What if LA is the future?’ Join host, Charlotte Burns, as she drives from the East Side to Korea Town and out to Santa Monica. We visit the studio of artist and filmmaker, Cauleen Smith, whose life and work centers around building a better world. We also drop in on Kibum Kim, partner and co-founder at Commonwealth and Council - a gallery building a supportive community of artists - who wants to challenge the high-speed ...

The Art World: What If...?! LA Special with Connie Butler and Sue Bell Yank

March 02, 2023 06:00 - 47 minutes - 65.6 MB

What if Los Angeles is the future? This episode Charlotte Burns visits the city for the first of two extra special episodes. We’re at the Hammer museum with its Chief curator, Connie Butler, before heading over to meet Sue Bell Yank who’s Executive director at Clockshop. Both are experimenting with how to do things differently and how to make LA a sustainable place to be and to create art. Nowhere encapsulates the need to imagine radical new possibilities more than Los Angeles. “LA is an ama...

The Art World: What If...?! with American Artist

February 23, 2023 06:00 - 48 minutes - 66.7 MB

What if it were possible to dream up entirely new things? Join host Charlotte Burns as she interviews one of the most interesting artists working today. American Artist — who changed their name in 2013 — produces deeply thoughtful work that is as enmeshed in digitization and technology as it is history and alternate realities. American talks about how their art tackles police violence in the US. They also discuss a newer body of work centering on the life and writings of sci-fi novelist, Oct...

The Art World: What If...?! with Rashida Bumbray

February 16, 2023 06:00 - 51 minutes - 71.3 MB

This episode, Charlotte Burns is joined by Rashida Bumbray whose career straddles different realms within culture. A choreographer and curator, Rashida aims to create new spaces of imagination, empowerment, and connection. While the data and the daily realities of the art world can reflect a scarcity, Rashida’s work—notably the recent organization of artist Simone Leigh’s Loophole of Retreat Summit in Venice—reflects an abundance that is intergenerational, interdisciplinary, and inspirationa...

The Art World: What If...?! with Paul Chan

February 09, 2023 06:00 - 56 minutes - 78.3 MB

In this episode, we get into some of the biggest What Ifs —about virtue and value, about life and loss. Host Charlotte Burns is joined by one of the most thoughtfully provocative (or cunning, as he’d say), artists of our time,  Paul Chan. He made his name in the early 2000s with film and media works, and by 2008 had found significant success. Then, he stopped making art. Now he’s back with a show called Paul Chan: Breathers, where, influenced by sky-dancers, he literally shapes air. He says ...

The Art World: What If...?! with Joeonna Bellorado-Samuels

February 02, 2023 06:00 - 39 minutes - 53.8 MB

What if the art market had more faith in its own future? What if we could improve the health of the swamp? This episode, we consider the state of the market and who better to join Charlotte Burns than co-host, the art advisor Allan Schwartzman, along with Joeonna Bellorado-Samuels, director at Jack Shainman Gallery in New York and founder of We Buy Gold. Together they discuss the boom and bust, aspiration and desperation - and much more besides. 

The Art World: What If...?! with Sandra Jackson-Dumont

January 26, 2023 06:00 - 49 minutes - 68.1 MB

What if we reimagine the role of the museum? What if we bring more intention to what culture can be and do—and by whom and for whom? What if we tell ourselves different stories? In this episode, host Charlotte Burns talks to Sandra Jackson-Dumont, the CEO and director of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art—a new museum founded by filmmaker George Lucas and his businesswoman wife, Mellody Hobson. The institution, which is set to open in Los Angeles in 2025 is one of the most potentially excitin...

The Art World: What If...?! with Cecilia Alemani

January 19, 2023 06:00 - 44 minutes - 60.9 MB

What if the world was without ethics? What if financial value was no longer the way we talk about success? Cecilia Alemani, artistic director of the 59th Venice Biennale and director and chief curator of High Line Art in New York City joins host Charlotte Burns to discuss the role of the curator today.  Cecilia masterminded the recent Biennale through the pandemic to rave reviews, notably for the cool manner in which she presented a new version of art history, bringing focus without fanfar...

The Art World: What If...?! with Glenn Lowry

January 12, 2023 09:05 - 1 hour - 82.7 MB

What if we separated who funds the museum from who runs the museum on a board level? This episode, host Charlotte Burns welcomes Glenn Lowry who’s been the director of the Museum of Modern Art in New York since 1995. He's led the institution through two vast expansions, and, of course, periods of profound change. This is a frank and revealing conversation covering a lot of ground. What if competition and collaboration were the same? What if museums refuse to take in so many works of art? Joi...

The Art World: What If...?! with Naomi Beckwith

January 12, 2023 06:40 - 51 minutes - 70.2 MB

“Not just what if—but what are we missing?” In the first episode of this new podcast, host Charlotte Burns is joined by Naomi Beckwith, the Deputy Director and Jennifer and David Stockman Chief Curator of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum. Someone actively working to recalibrate the field in the most exciting and dynamic ways, Naomi starts this episode with science before moving onto museums—and how we can create change. What if our textbooks were Black? What if we decentered the Western worl...

Introducing The Art World: What If...?!

December 21, 2022 16:35 - 3 minutes - 4.82 MB

Welcome to The Art World: What If...?! the latest podcast from the makers of In Other Words and Hope & Dread. The first episode will be available on 12 January 2023 and new shows will come out every Thursday.  

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Phyllis Mitz

July 12, 2022 13:55 - 13 minutes - 18.1 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Phyllis Mitz brings you a vision for the future in this interview with astrologer Phyllis Mitz. Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave them on the cutting room floor. Join hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman for new Hope & Dread Extr...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Maya Benton

July 12, 2022 08:31 - 12 minutes - 17.7 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Maya Benton features photography curator Maya Benton, who talks about staring down Neo-Nazi protestors.  Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave them on the cutting room floor. Join hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman for new Hope & D...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Sandra Jackson-Dumont

July 07, 2022 08:30 - 15 minutes - 20.9 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Sandra Jackson-Dumont brings you more from the inaugural director and CEO of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art, which is scheduled to open in Los Angeles next year. Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave them on the cutting room floor. Join ...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Issy Wood

July 05, 2022 08:09 - 8 minutes - 12.1 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Issy Wood brings you a conversation with the talented young artist Issy Wood.  Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave them on the cutting room floor. Join hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman for new Hope & Dread Extra every Tuesday a...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Kathy Halbreich

June 28, 2022 14:56 - 15 minutes - 21.5 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Kathy Halbreich features a conversation with Kathy Halbreich, the executive director of the Robert Rauschenberg Foundation, about why she has put artists at the center of her vision of creating change. Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave ...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Black Trustee Alliance

June 28, 2022 08:05 - 13 minutes - 18.1 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Black Trustee Alliance focuses on a new organization—the Black Trustee Alliance—that hopes to bring change to the museum field. Tune in to hear from the collector and philanthropist Victoria Rogers, who is co-chair of BTA and Brooke Minto, its executive director. Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room f...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Lulani Arquette

June 23, 2022 08:31 - 12 minutes - 17.2 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Lulani Arquette brings you the highlights of our interview with the president and CEO of the Native Arts and Cultures Foundation, which is in the middle of an expansion into a new building in Portland, Oregon.  Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want ...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Dr. Kelli Morgan

June 21, 2022 10:57 - 16 minutes - 22.9 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Dr. Kelli Morgan brings you more from Kelli Morgan, who recently left the museum field for academia after experiencing profound racism. She is now the professor of the practice and director of curatorial studies, history of art and architecture at Tufts University in Massachusetts. Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Tiffany Sia

June 16, 2022 09:01 - 9 minutes - 13 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Tiffany Sia features the artist, filmmaker, and writer Tiffany Sia who recently left Hong Kong for fear of her safety.. Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave them on the cutting room floor. Join hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman f...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Lord Ed Vaizey

June 14, 2022 08:31 - 16 minutes - 22.4 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Lord Ed Vaizey brings you more from the former UK culture minister, Lord Vaizey of Didcot, who ran the Department for Culture, Media and Sport from 2010 to 2016 under a Conservative government.  Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave them on...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Max Hollein

June 09, 2022 08:57 - 15 minutes - 22 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Max Hollein brings you some highlights from our interview with the Marina Kellen French Director of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, who talks about his vision for the museum.  Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave them on the cu...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Michael Armitage

June 07, 2022 08:51 - 18 minutes - 24.9 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Michael Armitage focuses on a conversation with artist Michael Armitage, who recently founded the Nairobi Contemporary Arts Institute (NCAI). Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave them on the cutting room floor. Join hosts Charlotte Burns a...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Hamza Walker

June 02, 2022 08:52 - 15 minutes - 21.8 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Hamza Walker brings you more from a season favorite—Hamza Walker, the director of LAXART in Los Angeles—who talks about an exhibition of decommissioned Confederate monuments he is co-organizing with artist Kara Walker. Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn...

The Art World: Hope & Dread Extra, Amy Webb

May 31, 2022 08:30 - 11 minutes - 15.7 MB

Hope & Dread Extra: Amy Webb brings you more from the futurist Amy Webb, founder and CEO of the Future Today Institute and author of The Genesis Machine: Our Quest to Rewrite Life in the Age of Synthetic Biology.  Hope & Dread Extra is a series of short, sharp bonus episodes featuring your season favorites from Hope & Dread. Our guests were brimming with additional ideas and extra insights that we just didn’t have room for within the documentary series. But we didn’t want to leave them on ...

The Art World: Hope & Dread, Long Nights at the Round Table

May 18, 2022 08:49 - 46 minutes - 64.2 MB

For the final episode, hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman are joined by the series’ editorial advisors, Deana Haggag, Mia Locks and Jay Sanders. They’ll highlight key discoveries and plot some of the changes that have occurred during production of the programs. Where does power reside now in the art world? What does that mean for broader society? And, of course, in the middle of 2022, do our guests feel inclined toward Hope or Dread? Tune in for more. Guests: Deana Haggag, Mia Loc...

The Art World: Hope & Dread, Are You Sitting Uncomfortably?

May 04, 2022 08:50 - 41 minutes - 57.5 MB

As shifts in power scramble the chessboard, how are our guests reacting to the pace of change? Our interviewees—from critics to museum directors, philanthropists to an astrologer—share their tips for dealing with discomfort. The stakes are high: tune in to hear some of the solutions.  New episodes available every other Wednesday.  For more, follow @artand_media on Instagram / Twitter / LinkedIn / Facebook Guests: Lulani Arquette, Maya Benton, Tim Blum, Roxane Gay, Deana Haggag, Kathy H...

The Art World: Hope & Dread, What We Talk About When We Talk About The Art Market

April 20, 2022 08:26 - 40 minutes - 56.3 MB

In the second of two episodes dedicated to the art market, Charlotte Burns turns to her series co-host; the richly experienced art advisor, critic and curator Allan Schwartzman, as he offers his understanding of where the market sits now—and how it may look in the future. Drawing out trends, strands, opportunities and obstacles, this program represents an intimate insight into an ever-fluctuating industry. New episodes available every other Wednesday.  For more, follow @artand_media on I...

The Art World: Hope & Dread, The Business of Art

April 06, 2022 08:27 - 47 minutes - 65.2 MB

In the first of two episodes dedicated to the business of art, Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman trace the changing contours of an industry defined by dealmaking. Power within the art trade is held by a few key players and yet, the art market shapes the lives and livelihoods of almost everyone working in art. In an art world that likes to season the cold logic of commodities trading with the language of inclusion, passion and creation, we speak to dealers, artists and futurologists to ...

The Art World: Hope & Dread, Artists: Players or Pawns?

March 23, 2022 08:00 - 40 minutes - 55 MB

In a series dedicated to tectonic shifts in power in art, why did we wait so long to devote a show to the artists themselves? Well, we wanted to paint a picture of the landscape in which those creators now live and work - and as you’ve heard, it is complex. In this episode we hear from artists who want to change the system with their own foundations, support networks and big ideas. These are stories of civic and artistic philanthropy that aren’t about engraving your name in granite but about...

The Art World: Hope & Dread, Westward Ho!

March 09, 2022 09:28 - 41 minutes - 57.5 MB

The series heads north by northwest to Portland, Oregon to uncover a surprisingly hideous history: could it be that this hipster mecca was founded as a whites-only utopia? Answer: hell, yeah. When a curator has to rub shoulders with Neo-Nazis during the installation of her exhibition, there may well be trouble built into the very fabric of the state. We speak to the broader arts community in Portland to tease out the fine threads of race, land, ownership and identity and ask - as tanks roll ...

The Art World: Hope & Dread, Executive Session

February 23, 2022 09:00 - 40 minutes - 56 MB

Today you'll hear from that echelon who are really running America's museums: the board. This is where the real power in museums resides. We'll find out if these trustees have fully grasped the issues that museums need to tackle today. Do they have ambitious enough solutions? Who makes sure the museum sticks to its mission, or that the trustees are doing their job? After all - who governs the governors? Tune in to find out.  Guests: Sarah Arison, Fred Bidwell, Pam Kramlich, Jill Kraus, L...

The Art World: Hope & Dread, Take Me To Your Leader

February 09, 2022 08:59 - 35 minutes - 48.6 MB

Having examined the pressure mounting on institutions from the street, the public galleries and then from within - this penultimate museum-focused episode asks who’d want to run one? Hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman ask the director of the Met how comfortable that throne really is. Who should run the nation’s museums? Who’d want to, amidst a world of shifting certainties? Hope & Dread has the answers. Tune in to find out. Guests: Catherine Arias, Sarah Arison, Fred Bidwell, De...

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