The Madness That Is Immigration

Mark makes the introduction and connects today’s topic, immigration to the IMC flywheel from the self out to Worldview

He says it’s a polarizing topic and he also cite the importance of what words mean.  Specifically “illegal immigration”

Jim says immigration pushes a lot of buttons. Jim agrees it’s connected to Worldview on our flywheel

Jim ha the perspective of having played rugby with guys from all over the world

When Jim meets first generation immigrants, he thanks them

Then Jim self reflects on his grandmother’s family who were Swiss Italian and talks about the connection that took place who he recently went back ti visit

Mark says most of us are only a generation or two away from immigrants.  Then he talks habit about his Irish background and how the Irish and Italians were treated very poorly back in the 20’s and 30’s in Boston where his dad are up. The Irish and Italians bonded in defense and over common traits like Catholicism and story telling

Mark brings up his neighbors house building project. There were 2 white guys and 15 hispanics. He didn’t know who was illegal or legal. They all were polite, happy and working their asses off

Jim reflects on his dinner the night before, which prompted this discussion.  A Bosnian couple who came here after flying the war, went to Spain and then came here.  Very successful and patriotic. The wife is a teacher in So Cal and she has a very interesting take on the “immigrants of today” and how different they are

Jim asked her opinion - She said 30 kids recently showed up without English skills or any education at all. They are unable to handle the influx. She also said the whole issue has become political

Jim says this has clearly gotten worse under the Biden administration

Mark reflects on his experience working with immigration employment lawyers. The process and cost are absurd

The Mark gives the discussion the context of how w are making decisions as a country now without any concern for mid and long term impact.  We do it with immigration, green energy, climate change…everything

Mark says how unfair these policies are to our education, healthcare, law enforcement. It’s going to break our systems

Mark brings up the hispanic young man who is on Tiki’s Tok recruiting, by telling immigrants, “come on over, you’ll get free shit standing in front of his new house and new car with his new phone…recruiting!

Jim brings back up his Bosnian couple.  How grateful they are versus how entitled this new generation of immigrants

The guys agree that entitlement is a huge problem for everyone. “What happened to fortitude”

Mark says you can’t force behaviors. You can have laws and rules, but you have to enforce them

Jim speaks as a Californian - “these kids are revenue devices”

Jim talks about the school system - you can’t discipline these kids anymore so the behavior gets out of hand but the government wants the revenue so they can’t kick em out

The teachers are quitting. Everything’s OK and no-one gets punished

Jim brings up the Teacher union and how feckless they are

Both guys want the old way back - let the kids fight it out

The guys bring up the crime issue.

They both agree that a simple process should in place to screen and track. How is this going to impact the election?

Mark says the politicians are doing what they always do - obfuscation and bullshit

Mark addresses the executive order that Trump signed and Biden overwrote it day one.  Then he talks about how bills work   Stuffing other things in a bill and calling it an immigration bill

The guys have a good laugh about Don Lemon and the media - disingenuous

The media is a huge part of the problem and our “leaders” are doing nothing

The guys share positive immigrant stories

Mark shares his brothers Iranian friend who are in love with America and are both successful doctors and very grateful. They didn’t understand how we don’t understand the problems we are encouraging

Jim shares a couple of stories. One about a Scottish rugby teammate who is now the number 2 executive at the largest grocer in the country now - great story - “I’m the American dream”

He also shares the story of how he met the lady who cleans his house 20 years ago - another great story!

We don’t hear these stories anymore in the mainstream…interesting

Jim finishes with a third story about a family from the Vietnam war era - another great tale

Mark finishes with the point that this topic needs civil discourse. We need plans and accountability

These are not compassionate ways, they are dangerous