Mark introduces the topic of self doubt

He places it in health/mental health category on the wheel

Mark talks about waking up “awash” in self doubt yesterday and he wrote about it to help pull him out of it

First he went through with his morning routine and was still bummed out..so he wrote about it

Jim says self doubt is normal and anyone who doesn’t get it every so often isn’t striving

Jim talks about how middle age produces doubts about what might have been

Jim shares his bout with depression and then brings in the wheel and how self doubt touches all areas of life

Mark says it can be event driven and he mentions his divorce and brings up other circumstances

Jim connects self worth to self doubt

The guys talk about moving on…moving past it

Mark brings up sports and aging

Jim mentions how players become coaches to keep getting that dopamine hit

Jim says leaving a company has the same impact

Mark brings up empty nest syndrome and then identifies his solution is internal. Looking inside and not focusing on external circumstances

Jim says that you can’t care too much about what other people say

Mark talks about learning how to be humble and the rebuilding that can take place if you choose it

Jim says in order to be human you to have humility…then you can serve others with empathy and compassion. These are better humans

Mark talks about judging people by the way they present outwardly. He mentions the PGA pro that recently killed himself

A lot of people who are miserable, present as happy

Mark says we see 2 things in the media…tragedy and overbite success. We never see the striving. The work

Jim’s quote “I wish my enemies all their success”. Because is you achieve major success, you have sacrificed a lot. Everything has a price

Success can be lonely

Mark tells his father’s Navy wings story. WTF do I do now

Same thing as retirement - want to stop using that term. It’s negative instead of…what’s the next awesome thing

Jim brings up “rebranding”. More possible than ever before. Technology and coaching

Rebranding is a total choice

Mark brings back up empty nest. Jim says he didn’t experience that. Everyone experiences this differently

Mark talks about his unique experience being both mom and dad…he didn’t see it coming

Mark says self doubt is the absence of self worth

Jim brings up ego. You have to put ego aside and that’s not easy.  Being alone…no more feedback

Mark wonders why Jim didn’t feel the empty nest

Mark explains how he forgave himself and how freeing it was. If God forgives, why can’t we forgive ourselves

Jim talks about the self - words

Mark reads the definitions of self doubt and self compassionate

Mark talks about looking inward and not comparing to others…misery

Jim says happiness is overrated. Being fulfilled is better

Learning new things and striving to be better is the way to go

Mark suggests taking your new found humility…turning it into empathy and reaching out to help

Timing has to align in order to be well received with your offer of help

Jim summarizes his position on "recalibrating the soul"