I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee
120 episodes - English - Latest episode: 17 days ago - ★★★★ - 4 ratingsThe music podcast that does music differently. I'm Giles Sibbald and I'm talking to extraordinary musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in their lives to amplify their own creativity, pursue new challenges, overcome fears and bounce back from mistakes.
Don’t miss out on conversations that might inspire you to find your own experimental mindset!
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S12 E1: Amanda Mac
April 09, 2024 05:00 - 1 hour - 59.6 MBIf I were to create a mixtape (it’d have to be an old school cassette cos that’s probably the last time I made one!) for Amanda and her music life, it’d probably open with The Undertones’ Family Entertainment with the classic line “Got To…Keep it In the Family”. I mention family not so much to talk endlessly about the quite rare band structure of her band, Bad Mary – in her words “a band family and family band” - but to segué clumsily into some of the questions that I have for myself about...
S11 E10: Saint Saviour
March 26, 2024 00:30 - 1 hour - 48.7 MBYou know when you hear a song or a collection of songs that literally make you shiver? Songs that could make you cry at how effortlessly beautiful they are. Another thing that interests me is the neuroscience of how some pieces of music can transport me to a time, a place, an older version of me, a perhaps as yet unseen version of me, how they can seem like my constant companion that’s seen my life, the very depths of me, the heights of me, how I can go back to them and they’re still my fr...
S11 E9: Johnny Manchild
March 21, 2024 00:30 - 1 hour - 44.7 MBWhat’s been intriguing me today? Reality. What is it? Is there “a” reality or is it all subjective and determined by our own perception, prediction and interpretation. I think it's a word - like so many others - that has been hijacked – you see it used in order to dogmatically defend belief systems or stances and this plays into our susceptibility to certain narratives – we hear that phrase “well this is my reality” at the expense of those who are experiencing things in a very differen...
S11 E8: SkyDxddy
March 15, 2024 00:30 - 58 minutes - 40.6 MBAs regular listeners will be painfully aware, I’m no fan of genres. I can hear the groans already….here he goes again getting on his soapbox…yes, well, you know you gotta reinforce the message, right! I do believe that genres are obsolete to the point of being dangerous, created by an industry to keep people in their lanes, to reinforce “rules” and stereotypes of who should be playing what music - and to make it easier and cheaper to market. The good thing is that there are far more musician...
S11 E7: Sukie Smith
March 08, 2024 01:30 - 1 hour - 47.1 MBWe live in a culture of immediacy and entitlement, brought upon us, in part at least, by the emergence of new technologies of the last 20 years that were supposed to democratise society, to disrupt the big corporates, but have laid themselves bare as the same old monolithic structures where the power bases and wealth are maintained and society is left with long lasting effects which are not always positive. The impact on how we consume the Arts, and specifically music, is such that that imme...
S11 E6: Belle Chen
February 23, 2024 00:30 - 52 minutes - 36.1 MBListening to the music of Belle Chen brings me some mixed emotions – firstly, incredible love and admiration for the creativity and innovation of her thinking and the beauty and talent in executing this thinking through her composition and playing, yet still leaving room for the listener’s own interpretation. The second, and I fight hard against this one, is some regret that my own musical education was more constrained and I couldn’t – or didn’t want to - find a similar path where music and...
S11 E5: Hannah Joy
February 15, 2024 18:30 - 59 minutes - 41.1 MBAs a habitual loafer, I spend a fair bit of time thinking about how some songwriters can create music that can feel familiar yet unfamiliar and why I’m attracted to music that gives me both of those feelings. I also love finding music that feels very unfamiliar to me and I’m interested in why. As you might expect I’ve failed to come up with anything concrete, but I did read something which made me think: basically when you are younger, you tend to use music as an identity marker and engage...
S11 E4: Brad stank
January 25, 2024 20:30 - 1 hour - 43.8 MBWhen we’re kids, before we get to school and start to get hemmed in by society’s expectations, we don’t have the inhibitions that start to follow us around and start to influence our words, our actions, the clothes we wear, the way we cut our hair (although that’s not really been an issue for me for decades). I think this is also relevant in music –artists wrestling with breaking new ground or out of a genre for, for example, fear of alienating fans and it can make their music feel like thei...
S11 E3: Skinny Pelembe
January 12, 2024 02:30 - 1 hour - 47.2 MBAs with most stuff, I was late to the Skinny Pelembe party and the way I got into his music was as random as it gets: I came across an Instagram post (see, Instagram does have its uses) of his about buying an Austin Allegro with his streaming royalties ( I think that was the gist of it). Now my old man - rest his soul - was an Austin aficionado back in the days of my formative years when he got hold of the Austin 1800, Maxi, Princess and Maestro (I crashed this beast of a machine soon after ...
S11 E2: Nayana AB
December 22, 2023 06:00 - 54 minutes - 37.5 MBNayana AB is an outstanding songwriter, musician and producer, who, for me, is taking influences from great songwriters of the past but making the music in very much her own vision. She’s using that history and those legacies positively to shape her own future and the future of others. I think this is exactly what legacy is about and how it’s intended to be used. She recently won the Dr Martens Made Strong music in the community competition which landed her a show alongside the brilliant Ez...
S11 E1: Noble Brown
December 11, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 65 MBIn the bands my guest has played with over the past, what 30 years maybe – like Minority, Brick, One Against Many and presently Black Mercy – I’m getting influences from some outstanding bands and I’m thinking Negative Approach, Whipping Boy, Poison Idea, Artificial Peace definitely a bit of Napalm Death thrown in there to grind things up a bit. Fuck, just saying those band names makes me want to do a back somersault…but at my age and all that, I’d better give that a miss. In addition to hi...
S10 E10: Patrick Wagner
November 24, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 53.8 MBSituations and elements of duality, dualisms and paradoxes have started to become more evident in my life. I think I started to become more aware of this maybe 6/7 years ago when I started thinking and writing about the importance of mindset for surviving and functioning in this very complex and volatile world which, with a bit of gentle and not so gentle encouragement, led me to starting this little podcast. Exploring the existence of these situations, the reluctance to see anything other t...
S10 E9: Gianluca Buccellati
November 03, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 42.9 MBI think more and more these days about how we’ve sleep walked into allowing our world to become one that doesn’t serve us, one that does its best to prevent our ever-evolving identity to find its path, to do things on our own terms and away from being defined in a certain way by preconceptions or however our brains uses predictions of who others are and who we are. Maybe that’s just me getting older and grumpier. Probably true. But what's also true is that I have definitely experienced the w...
S10 E8: Lesley Woods
October 27, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 54.5 MBI interviewed Andrew Butler from Hercules and Love Affair last year and he made a really great point about how the most exciting music is produced when one “scene” starts to fade but the next “big thing” hasn’t yet arrived – l think of it like when a new star is being born from all this gas and dust coming together - before the “rules” of that genre are established (cos that’s what happens, right?) so it’s much more volatile, experimental and liberated. So, just delving into the past a li...
S10 E7: Trevor Dunn
October 20, 2023 05:00 - 55 minutes - 38.5 MBIf this podcast were a musician, it's highly likely it would be called Trevor Dunn. Trevor is a hugely respected and valued composer, bassist, double bassist, collaborator, ultra-improviser and fantastic conversationalist, coming to prominence with the ever fluid and experimental Mr Bungle. He has also played with John Zorn, The Melvins, Fantômas, Tomahawk, his own Trio-Convulsant, plus many more collaborations. Now, with Sally Gates and Greg Fox, he's releasing another fabulous milestone...
S10 E6: J. Willgoose, Esq.
October 06, 2023 05:00 - 46 minutes - 32 MBThere’s so much about the work of J. Willgoose, Esq. of Public Service Broadcasting that really is everything that this podcast is about – resilience, curiosity, the importance of your physical environment, reinvention, collaborations, adaptability, trying things out, learning from the past – from successes or mistakes to what should have been or could still be – how to repurpose the past, how we shift ourselves in what is already a volatile and fast changing world, all with the aim of makin...
S10 E5: Alan Palomo
September 22, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 45 MBSince I started this podcast malarkey (maybe before actually, maybe the podcast just encouraged me to be more open about it - gawd, this sounds like a confessional!), I’ve developed a fascination with how music can whisk you off into a distant world, a kind of musical Narnia, not just through the lyrics, but the song structures, the atmosphere, the relationship of current music with past decades (cos we interpret and measure music by decades, right? - although it will be interesting as to wh...
S10 E4: Alaura O'Dell
September 08, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 56.5 MBI first met Alaura when we did an online workshop for the South London Arts Lab in October 2020. It was a practical exploration of Stream of Consciousness writing. It was called “Telling The Stories We Were Always Told To Keep Secret”, where we were encouraged to delve into our memory to write about things that have a hold over us, maybe things we are ashamed of, afraid of, whatever that hold may be. This had a very profound effect on me and I have to say took my interest in the importance o...
S10 E3: Becca Mancari
August 25, 2023 05:00 - 56 minutes - 39.2 MBOur mindset is super important to how we handle life and what the future might hold for us. The importance of maintaining and regenerating our friendships and relationships shouldn't be overlooked but they often are. Of course, how we view them can be wrapped up in things that happened to us going way back. I’m also interested in how friendships evolve over our life – do they come and go, is it as commonplace to maintain lifelong friendships as much these days and in fact how do we ourselve...
S10 E2: Tony Njoku
June 30, 2023 05:00 - 58 minutes - 40.3 MBTony Njoku is a multi-instrumentalist, songwriter, musician, producer and visual artist whose music is impossible to categorise. It has so many influences that its identity is unique – just like it should be. He's assembling his art in ways that tell a story that helps him and helps others by bringing us together over shared experiences. Asking those big questions about our own identity and evolution, exploring what matters in life, gets me really interested in the personal intent and com...
S10 E1: Stephen Mallinder
June 16, 2023 05:00 - 55 minutes - 37.9 MBCuriosity is one of the most endearing things that we have as children – the never ending barrage of “why?”. It’s also one of the things, along with playfulness and adaptability, that can get kicked out of us as we get older. Stephen Mallinder is one of the most prolific, influential and pioneering DIY sound, art and writing radicals, from opening up new sound terrains with Cabaret Voltaire to making soundtracks, experimental filmography, forming DIY record labels, radio shows, festivals...
S9 E10: Lora Logic
June 02, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 58.4 MBWe're signing off Season 9 with a pioneering legend. Here's what the incomparable Vivien Goldman wrote about Lora Logic back in the nascent days of punk: “The remarkable Lora Logic, several phases ahead as usual, proves yet again that she’s the best thing that ever played in the Roxy…The woman defines herself, un-pompously fills a cultural vacuum. If there is a modern dance, she’s our Ginger Rogers.” I was listening to Lora’s back catalogue and I started to think that those cultural vac...
S9 E9: Alianna Kalaba
May 19, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 65.3 MBAlianna Kalaba is a multi-instrumentalist, most renowned, I guess, for playing drums for the past 10/11 years with Cat Power and this beautifully distorted, snake-like bass with FACS, signing off from them with their latest album Still Life In Decay which is just a masterpiece - I’m totally in love with that record. Alianna is also the first person that I’ve ever heard talk about a euphonium since I was playing the cello as a restless teenager which is a bloody long time ago. There is som...
S9 E8: Gordon Sterling
May 05, 2023 05:00 - 1 hour - 47.8 MBWhen I started thinking about experimental mindsets, I started looking for examples of that mindset at use in real life. I wrote something about Detroit. Detroit has always fascinated me, just like Moscow (weird how we get drawn to certain places or scenes isn’t it?). It went something like this - Detroit is THE example of how a city was blindsided by technology transforming an industry to which it had sold its soul. It's population declined by almost two-thirds in just 60 years and the ...
S9 E7: Marcus Machado
April 21, 2023 05:00 - 58 minutes - 40.2 MBOne of the wonderful things about an experimental mindset is that it gives you the willingness and desire to be not just open to other ways of living and approaching your life – whether that be your work, your hobbies, your relationships - but to actively going to find those other ways. In terms of music, this could be being bringing in different musical styles, influences, instrumentation and collaborations with people that you might not ordinarily gravitate towards – basically getting out ...
S9 E6: Elisabeth Elektra
April 07, 2023 05:00 - 55 minutes - 38.3 MBElisabeth Elektra has lived with and through change, uncertainty, improvisation and transformation – the sort of things that today’s world throws at us. She gained her degree in experimental music and visual art, so she has got used to throwing herself into strange creative situations. She’s always pushed herself outside of her comfort zones and this gives her creativity this constant flux and fluidity. I love the experimental and esoteric ethos that underpins her creativity and gives her mu...
S9 E5: Marissa Paternoster
March 24, 2023 06:00 - 44 minutes - 30.8 MBMarissa Paternoster is doing too many amazing things to be defined by any one of them – she’s best known for her music in the Screaming Females, a band whose whole ethos of self sufficiency, open mindedness, strong integrity and ability to evolve without ever not being the Screaming Females I just love, she writes phenomenal melodies, harmonies and lyrics both with the band and on her own – do check out her solo album Peace Meter for a masterclass in how to write perfect songs – she makes re...
S9 E4: Brix Smith
March 10, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 45.5 MBDedicated to the memory of Matt Evans. "Brixton is God" Brix Smith is a rock legend. Her life story is as inspirational as it is turbulent. It’s inspirational because of that turbulence and how she’s navigated it all. From growing up in LA and starting her first college band Banda Dratsing, to moving to Chicago and joining The Fall in 1983, branching out with The Adult Net, becoming a TV fashion commentator and a stylist, starting a fashion business with her husband Philip, writing a book...
S9 E3: Matt Black
February 24, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 42.5 MBMatt Black is half of the magnificently innovative and renegade DJ + multimedia pop group Coldcut, co-founder of Ninja Tune, one of the world’s leading electronic music labels and a beacon for the independent music spirit and creator of the brilliant sample instrument Jamm, and Pixi a visual synth instrument. Amongst other things! “Sound is living data, like DNA. Just as information wants to be free, not fixed, sound can be fluidly mixed, mutated, and recombined in infinite ways so the mix ...
S9 E2: Gena Rose Bruce
February 10, 2023 06:00 - 51 minutes - 35.1 MBIt's a great privilege to have conversations like I do with so many talented and amazing humans, each of whom is making their mark through their music and other creative projects. Today's conversation is one of those. Gena Rose Bruce is a phenomenally talented Melbourne-based artist who has just released her sophomore album Deep Is The Way. The title track written and performed with Bill Callahan will attract lots of attention – and rightly so, because it is truly beautiful piece of work...
S9 E1: Louise Distras
February 03, 2023 06:00 - 1 hour - 42.4 MBLouise Distras has always made her music with a progressive mindset. New visions, new influences, new collaborations and new ways of doing things. I think she’s challenged the way that we behave when we're on our own and when we're part of groups and also the way movements have a tendency to institutionalise themselves the longer they exist and create unspoken rules for how we live our life, how we make music, what we sing about and how we sing it. It's interesting to explore why self-inte...
S8 E10: Billy Nomates
January 16, 2023 06:00 - 57 minutes - 39.7 MBThree things struck me about Billy Nomates when I first heard her work - vulnerability, humanity and what a bloody exciting talent. I first saw Tor perform live when she supported the Sleaford Mods at the 100 Club in September 2020. She played with such charisma - perfectly DIY, raw and defiant intensity with gallows humour vulnerability, it was a perfectly razor sharp crossover that gave me a feeling that she is giving herself a massive amount of freedom to musically do whatever she wants....
S8 E9: Jesse Malin
October 24, 2022 05:00 - 42 minutes - 29.3 MB“There’s a world outside if you want it” …. …. this lyric from Jesse's 2015 song Oh Sheena kinda sums up his desire to find the positive in life, to make the best out of the good times and the tough times. Jesse Malin is someone who embraces all sorts of influences to produce a music that is full of honest emotion, humility, positivity and that slice of life storytelling – and I think that’s what makes him so relatable. He cut his teeth in New York’s hardcore scene and has been a lynch...
S8 E8: Jennie Bellestar
October 03, 2022 05:00 - 1 hour - 49 MBIt's the early '80's and I'm going through one of many identity searches. I was always drawn to the non-conformers, even though I conformed in many ways. Therein lies a struggle. Music was obviously a massive part of that identity search and the early 80s kinda gave me the chance to experiment with clothes (usually atrocious) and music (stuff that is still with me today and stuff that was as atrocious as the clothes). The Belle Stars were part of that identity searching. They formed in 19...
S8 E7: Arrow de Wilde & Henri Cash
September 19, 2022 05:00 - 47 minutes - 32.7 MBThank fuck for Starcrawler When I first heard their debut album around 5 years ago and I was like, well, this is what the world’s been waiting for. A good dose of Hollywood underbelly, a bit of glam, a bit of punk rock horror, a bit of No Place for Old Men and a huge dose of heart. Starcrawler were just feeding me all of this charisma, swagger, aggression, melody, pretty much like a parent feeds their baby a gigantic chocolate pudding. Well, maybe not all parents…. Their third album, ...
S8 E6: Kelly Ogden
August 15, 2022 05:00 - 38 minutes - 26.5 MBToday's special guest is Kelly Ogden! Kelly, together with her husband Luis, started The Dollyrots for a bit of fun whilst college students in Florida. They then decided to take the leap of faith and make the band a full time gig, moved to LA and have been on an epic journey playing their brand of music that is chockablock full of melodies, riffs and pure joy that Ramones, The Muffs and Joan Jett would be proud of. I'm so grateful to Kelly for being so open in sharing her formative influen...
S8 E5: Sam Quartin
August 08, 2022 05:00 - 46 minutes - 32.2 MBSam Quartin is the guitarist and vocalist for THE BOBBY LEES. They're one of my favourite bands, rooted in punk, the blues, the garage and a big old dose of weird. Live, they are a tight, ball of wild, nihilistic claustrophobia that comes and finds you and detonates in your face. They're free of inhibitions and straitjackets and this just feeds into the crowd. It's proper rock n roll, respectful of the past but very much for today. They've just announced their new album, Bellevue, to be rel...
S8 E4: JD Pinkus
August 01, 2022 05:00 - 1 hour - 47.5 MBThe Butthole Surfers didn't play the UK that often back in the day. And when they did, I missed them: damn that shit English Pennine weather! One of life's regrettable moments. So, 35 years later, the Butthole healing process continues and I finally get to talk to the legendary Pinkus from his home near Asheville, NC. And what a great chat we had and I'm pleased to report that I'm healed. We're talking about Meth Mountain and it's younger brother Hillbilly Hill, 1970's cartoons, communal...
S8 E3: Steve Hillage
July 25, 2022 05:00 - 39 minutes - 27.5 MBSteve Hillage is one of music’s greats - a great musician, a great innovator, a great free thinker and great experimenter whose achievements and career is just one whole wall of inspiration for doing the things that excite you and on your own terms. It's a terrific conversation, talking about how family circumstances dictated that he spend a lot of his early childhood in his own company, the inspiration that he got from Jimi Hendrix and Syd Barrett, how Kraftwerk changed his focus towards d...
S8 E2: Mike Watt
July 18, 2022 05:00 - 55 minutes - 38.3 MBAs I'm writing these show notes, I'm listening to The Minutemen's History Lesson Part 2 which opens with this wonderful line: "Our band could be your life". For me, this succinctly captures what Mike Watt is about and what music is about…... One day, way back when, a 13 year-old D. Boon jumped out of a tree and landed in front of Mike Watt. Looking him in the eye, he said "You're not Eskimo". "No, I'm not Eskimo", was Watt's perplexed response. This chance encounter would lead to the ...
S8 E1: Sam Fogarino
July 11, 2022 06:00 - 51 minutes - 35.5 MBThe powerful precision, swing, rhythmic and melodic inventiveness of Sam Fogarino, drummer with the mighty Interpol, sets him apart from most drummers. I feel truly privileged to have been able to talk to Sam ahead of Interpol's show at Primavera Barcelona and ahead of the release of Interpol's 7th studio album since the seminal Turn On The Bright Lights, called The Other Side of Make-Believe. If the singles released so far are anything to go by, we're gonna see a further evolution of thei...
S7 E10: Megan Jasper
July 04, 2022 05:00 - 59 minutes - 41.1 MBSub Pop Records is still the most totemic symbol of alternative music, 35 years after it was first formed by Bruce Pavitt and Jonathan Poneman in Seattle. It’s roster over the years is like being a kid in a sweet shop – Mudhoney, Dwarves, Hole, J Mascis, Sleater-Kinney, The Mary Chain, Moor Mother, The Vaselines…..oh, and a band that never quite made it…..I think they were called Nirvana. I don't suppose anyone's heard of them…… Megan Jasper started as an intern back in September 1989 and...
S7E9: Ron Gallo
June 27, 2022 05:00 - 45 minutes - 31.4 MBEverybody should listen to Ron Gallo, not just because his music is so bloody exciting, eclectic and innovative, but also because his emotional intelligence is through the roof. As Ron has said himself, searching to find out who you truly are can mean some beautiful moments, but also some terribly dark moments. I love the fact that he sees the difficult stuff as opportunities and that feelings and thoughts are temporary - it's true, right? Listen and watch to this as Ron talks about his reb...
S7 E9: Ron Gallo
June 27, 2022 05:00 - 45 minutes - 31.4 MBEverybody should listen to Ron Gallo, not just because his music is so bloody exciting, eclectic and innovative, but also because his emotional intelligence is through the roof. As Ron has said himself, searching to find out who you truly are can mean some beautiful moments, but also some terribly dark moments. I love the fact that he sees the difficult stuff as opportunities and that feelings and thoughts are temporary - it's true, right? Listen and watch to this as Ron talks about his reb...
S7 E8: Cynthia Sley
June 20, 2022 05:00 - 51 minutes - 35.4 MBPunk’s blast might have faded but its impact didn't. By 1978, a new guard was taking over, one that was meshing together exciting sounds and influences and creating exhilarating music for the open minded, for the outsiders and for the curious. The Bush Tetras have taken their own place in history and it's kinda fitting that they formed and created their art in NYC. They sounded and looked fantastic then and they sound and look fantastic now. They fused soul, dub, funk and dance with stabbing...
S7 E7: Hurricane G
June 13, 2022 05:00 - 59 minutes - 41 MBHurricane G is the amazing singer of a band that is in this exciting renegade maelstrom that is happening in Austin, Texas. Böndbreakr are crossing over musical influences and styles bringing together punk rock, metal, thrash, hardcore with a dash of psychedelia and a lot of commentary that addresses the pain and grief that that society inflicts on marginalised communities, in particular on the lives of Black, Indigenous and People of Colour. This is another of those open, from-the-heart an...
S7 E6: Kid Moxie
June 06, 2022 05:00 - 37 minutes - 25.8 MBTwo of my favourite things about this podcast: 1. I get to meet some amazing artists, sometimes by design, sometimes by chance and really understand what makes them who they are 2. I get to see how these artists have evolved over the years. Kid Moxie has been releasing music since around 2008 and her musical evolution is fascinating. From the sweeter pop of her debut Selector, thru to 2014’s 1888 and 2016’s Perfect Shadow – both really exciting pieces of work with these huge sou...
S7 E5: Sam Grant
May 30, 2022 05:00 - 44 minutes - 30.8 MBBy day, Sam Grant is responsible for producing some of the most intense, bone crunching yet life affirming riffs for Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs. Also by day (and probably also by night sometimes), he’s an artist and a producer who has built Blank Studios, a top recording facility in the North East of England. Talking about these kind of side hustles and projects is a big thing on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee, so to hear that Sam is unleashing his own musical side project, Rubber Oh, on...
S7E5: Sam Grant
May 30, 2022 05:00 - 44 minutes - 30.8 MBBy day, Sam Grant is responsible for producing some of the most intense, bone crunching yet life affirming riffs for Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs. Also by day (and probably also by night sometimes), he’s an artist and a producer who has built Blank Studios, a top recording facility in the North East of England. Talking about these kind of side hustles and projects is a big thing on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee, so to hear that Sam is unleashing his own musical side project, Rubber Oh, on...
S7E4: Jess Finlayson
May 23, 2022 05:00 - 47 minutes - 33 MBOne positive thing that I’ve taken away from the past two years is how big a role music plays in creating strong human connections. And there’s not just the music, but the touring is especially important for just that physical connection. Artists meeting fans, fans meeting artists. Like-minded people brought together by the music, by what they have to say through that music. Common, strong bonds. I first met Jess Finlayson in 2017 when she came touring from Australia with her band at the t...