Mark Shaiken talks with Carl about what comes next after a big career as a successful attorney. The questions started in his 50’s-- “Well, what else can I do?” The answers were not so easy for him then. “It’s sort of a loaded question,” said Mark. “The truth is there are lots of things we can do.” Carl agreed that sometimes it’s easy to get stuck in something when you're pretty good at it. Decades can fly by.   You don't need to be an attorney to learn so much from this interview about being "stuck" and how to figure out how to bust through to the next new thing. Mark wrote a terrific book about this adventure, “And... Just Like That: Essays on a life before, during and after the law”   To learn more about Mark Shaiken visit https://www.markshaikenphoto.com
 
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