Scott Rodgers of Pantone joins Drew and Chris this week. Scott has worked for over 25 years in AAA game development with credits dating back to the 16-bit era to the original God of War, writing the book "Level Up: The Guide to Great Video Game Design", and now is in the business of making board games. The trio talk about Scott's fight with Hodgkins Lymphoma and how it inspired him to pick up the ideas from the shelf and take the initiative to make the games we have today.