Brian Barber, loving husband, residential home builder and licensed psychotherapist, speaks from personal experience as he discusses how the living God transforms us through crucible experiences. A conversation about supporting your loved one when they face an unexpected, life-threatening disease, how we can turn our trials and fears over to God, and how does one empty themselves of “self” and let God redeem and transform us through suffering. This is part 2 of a two-part interview.