Naomi Wolf - Facing the Beast: Courage, Faith and Resistance in a New Dark Age

Show Notes and Transcript

Naomi Wolf's latest book is something a little different. 
Yes, it looks at the dark age which we all find ourselves living in, a world of wrong-think and de-platforming. 
But it also tells a different story, one of an unexpected political, personal and spiritual transformation in Naomi's life that mirrors the change many of have seen in our own social circles. 
Her high profile pilgrimage for truth saw Naomi cast out from her social and media circles for the crimes of challenging authority and questioning the narrative. 
In this book she shares the personal story of re-finding herself in terms of politics and in terms of spirituality. 
This is an honest story of the cost of defending truth and of the joy of rediscovering faith and a higher purpose.

Naomi Wolf is a bestselling author, columnist, and professor; she is a graduate of Yale University and received a doctorate from Oxford.
She is cofounder and CEO of DailyClout.io, a successful civic tech company.
Since the publication of her landmark international bestseller, The Beauty Myth, which The New York Times called “one of the most important books of the 20th century," Naomi’s other seven bestsellers have been translated worldwide.
The End of America and Give Me Liberty: A Handbook For American Revolutionaries, predicted the current crisis in authoritarianism and presented effective tools for citizens to promote civic engagement.
Naomi trains thought leaders of tomorrow, teaching public presentation to Rhodes Scholars and co-leading a Stony Brook University that gave professors skills to become public intellectuals.
She was a Rhodes scholar herself, and was an advisor to the Clinton re-election campaign and to Vice President Al Gore. Dr Wolf has written for every major news outlet in the US and many globally; she had four opinion columns, including in The Guardian and the Sunday Times of London.
She lives with her husband, veteran and private detective Brian, in the Hudson Valley.

'Facing the Beast: Courage, Faith, and Resistance in a New Dark Age'
Available in paperback, e-book and audio-book from 9th November 2023  https://amzn.eu/d/dgSoBZJ

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Interview recorded 26.10.23

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Transcript

(Hearts of Oak)

Naomi Wolf, it is wonderful to have you back. Thank you so much for your time today.

(Naomi Wolf)

Thank you so much, Peter. I'm really happy to be talking to you again.

Great, and we are going to look at your latest book, which is out, I think it's out on 9th of November, is it? 

Yes.

So it's just coming out. Perfect Christmas present. And I have loved reading through it, especially the spiritual aspect that comes out.
But let me bring it up.
That is it. Facing the beast.
Courage, faith and resistance in a new dark age.
People can obviously find you on Twitter on GETTR or anywhere else.
That's your handle. And dailyclout.io, you, of course, are the co-founder and CEO.
And we've had we had Amy Kelly on probably six months ago. Great conversation with her on the Pfizer documents and delved into that. I actually thought, it's interesting that you've come from the left and I read the Tucker Carlson piece right at the beginning. Naomi Wolf is one of the bravest and clearest thinking people I know. The reason you hear the forces of repression so desperately trying to dismiss her is because she is right. I wondered how long ago would you have to go to think that a endorsement by Tucker would have been the kiss of death.

Yeah. You know, I've never really been, I've been a fixture on the legacy media left for my whole career.
But I never really understood like tribalism. I've always been really happy to talk to conservatives or, you know, anyone.
I mean.
That's how I learned things. So, I think I would have always been happy to talk to Tucker Carlson, but it is absolutely true that the minute I began talking to conservatives, also the minute I began reporting accurately on the dangers of the mRNA injection, which happened to coincide, I became a non-person on the left, and that is part of the story I tell in Facing the Beast.

Absolutely. The beginning was intriguing, chapter one of Lost Small Town.
And one of the lines in it is, I forgive my neighbour who froze when I hugged her.
I forgive my other neighbours who told me she was making homemade soup and fresh bread and that I could join her for some if I was vaccinated. If I was unvaccinated, however, she explained, someday she might consent to walk outdoors with me.
And I think when people experience the last three years, many people are stuck at that stage of anger, at what has happened.
And it's wonderful to talk, to see you referring so many times to actually forgive those injustices.
And maybe you want to just touch on how you've arrived at that, because forgiveness is not necessarily a natural emotion. Anger is the first one that comes up, but you've moved well past that.
And I think that's enlightening.

Well, I don't want to overstate my evolved nature as a human on the planet.
Forgiveness doesn't mean I'm not furious.
I think, you know, I keep using that quote from Fitzgerald, the genius is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in your mind at the same time and still function.
I am furious. I'm furious at all of them. And I forgive them, right?
If all I am is furious then I'm gonna shrivel up and die from rage, right? But a lot of the book is also about accountability and a lot of my life day by day is about accountability because maybe not the men and women in the street whom I described in that chapter who were forced by the local boards of health putting pressure on the local, I guess, business council, whatever or regulates businesses, I guess all the Board of Health.
They were the ones who forced these small business people who had everything to lose by their businesses going under, forced them to become police of their neighbours' bodies, forced teenagers working at the local movie theatre to shun and enforce a two-tier society, forced the florist to leap at customers and say, are you vaccinated?
No one sane would have wanted to do that. But a lot of what I explore, and I'm the granddaughter of Jews in Europe and of a woman particularly who lost nine brothers and sisters in the Holocaust, but a lot of what I'm exploring in Facing the Beast is that parallel with 1931 to 1933, when people were forced to do things they didn't want to do that ended up in genociding their neighbours.
That's exactly where we were and are at. So yes, forgiveness is just like, how do I remain emotionally and spiritually alive and growing, but it doesn't mean we don't haul the leaders of this effort off to, you know, in handcuffs, to prison, you know, to face trial and criminal charges. We do.

Chapter two, opening boxes from 2019, and in it you talked about 11th of March 2020, you and Brian looked at each other and said we're getting out of here and that was through the governor there, Andrew Cuomo, beginning to lock down, I think he talked about Broadway being closed. Now that was intriguing, because I think you talked to a lot of people, it took a while to realise actually what is happening is not going to blow over in a couple of weeks and people hoped and believed that actually within three months we might be past it and then the penny begun to drop. And I've talked to friends, friends in Canada actually, who fled Canada, who did the same thing, got in a car and just drove out of there. Tell us that, because you saw bad things were coming right at the beginning. Most people aren't willing to take that jump. They kind of sit and they hope it will go away and don't act as quickly as you did.

Yeah, that was such an interesting moment. And I, you know, I'm often so grateful that that my husband, Brian O'Shea, has life experiences that are not the same as mine.
He spent much of his career in military intelligence embedded with special forces and in conflict areas around the world, and the balance of his career in intelligence, intelligence.
So it weirdly mirrors being a journalist in conflict areas And journalists and spies, both are researchers.
So we really understand each other. But I think both of us, from different times in our lives when we've been in conflict areas and very unstable political situations, when the governor can say Broadway is closing and Broadway closes all at once, both of us immediately understood that it wasn't America anymore.
In America, you can't just close someone's business by fear, right?
And in America business owners who don't want to close, don't close, you know, it's their decision.
So, once the state can do something as draconian as closing a gigantic cultural engine which employs thousands of people in the greatest city on earth, then they can build quarantine camps, they can put people in quarantine camps, they can force injections, they can force organ harvesting, they can really do whatever they want.
And so I'd written a book in 2008 called The End of America that looked at closing societies, times and places where fragile democracies were undermined or overthrown by totalitarians on the left or on the right.
And I saw that there's a map that they all take the same 10 steps.
So by having done that research, I realized, well, emergency law, which this governor declared, is step 10.
And he wasn't lifting it. it was two weeks to flatten this curve.
He wasn't lifting it in April, in May, in June. It was still emergency law.
And so by June, when we were already in the woods and it was unlawful according to him by no representative process for us to have more than six people in our home, I realized this is full-on totalitarianism.
They're never gonna let us out without a fight. I put that on social media, this is it.
They're not letting us out.
And I invited 50 people into my home for a potluck and I put it on social media because I at that point realized the only way we're going to have a democracy back ever, and this is history informing me, is if we all resist immediately and refuse to comply and do it very flagrantly.

Now, chapter 3, what is a miracle? You talk about feeling overwhelmed at what was happening, how can we overcome the adversaries that we face.
And you mention a moment where the mountain range seems to light up.
And you realize I started laughing, it was as if God was saying, don't be silly, just look at me.
Was the depth of my despair answered by a massive blaze of gold just when I needed a miracle, or was a miracle simply happened to look up and notice something?
That line, was a miracle, I think it was Eric Metaxas, I think, wrote a book about miracles.
As a fascinating concept, being a Brit, not one, never discussing faith, and obviously in the US it's a different, bolder attitude, but still amongst many people this is not a conversation you have, and certainly miracles are definitely not on the conversation topic. I love just that title, What is a miracle is a fascinating title. 

Yeah, thank you. Yeah, well, you know, Peter, as you have seen, I've kind of dropped a lot of my prohibitions and inhibitions. You know, really my de-personing by the left was a blessing in disguise because I have nothing left to lose by saying what I really think. And you're absolutely right, I lived in Britain for many years. I lived in Scotland too. You're Scottish, right? No?

I'm Northern Irish, but we have an affinity with the Scots just across the water.

Right. I think I've asked you that before. Forgive me. But yes, the Celts.
Britain is super, it's not just secular, it's like it is considered very tacky to talk about faith.
And it's considered very tacky to talk about faith in my sophisticated, you know, Ivy League.
You know, West and East Coast elite world. You're allowed to go to synagogue, you know, and say, well, I'm, you know, I went up for Yom Kippur, I went for Rosh Hashanah.
Or if you're Christian, you can have Christmas, I suppose. But really, it's weird if you go to church on Sunday.
It's certainly weird if you, I mean, miracles and that whole discourse of God actually having a hand in your actual life is really interestingly considered to be so vulgar to discuss.
It's like worse, it's more taboo than sex addiction or gambling addiction or alcoholism.
It's like super unsayable.
But I was having, the story of the last two and a half years is also a story of a journey of faith on my part.
And I did have experiences that you really can't explain and that were positive.
But also, as I pointed out, what's a miracle?
There are miracles all around us that we just don't categorize as miracles.
Like a baby being born, that's a miracle.
So much has to go right for that to happen. And the fact that there can be life is a miracle.
Actually, Orthodox Jews understand this. They're always thanking God for very mundane things that we overlook.
But love is a miracle. Families are miracles. It's all a miracle, right?
Healing is a miracle.
I did have this super weird experience, which I've videotaped, of my little dog Mushroom was passing away at 18.
And as he was dying, in the river near our house, there was a long, suddenly out of nowhere, it was midwinter, a long stemmed red rose, a real one, just not over the water, not under the water, like hovering under the water about 10 inches under this rushing icy stream.
And it literally just stayed there for 10 days. It wasn't caught on anything.
It was completely not understandable in any physical terms that I had.
And I showed Brian. Literally, I posted this. He's a witness.
A million people are witnesses that this happened.
And then when Mushroom died, the petals released, and it flowed away.
But roses have all kinds of symbolic meaning in a bunch of religions.
Was it a miracle? I don't know, and that was Brian's line, what's a miracle?
Maybe that's the wrong question.
Like maybe it's all a miracle, and it just takes our noticing it.
I mean, part of why I shared that is I also more quickly came to the conclusion that there was a force of evil that had been unleashed in 2020 that is still with us, that is more massive and gigantic and not explainable in normal human political rationalist terms than I had ever witnessed in my lifetime.
And that it was like negative proof. If a force of evil can be this big, this sophisticated, get all the leaders of all the nations to do exactly the same things with the exact same language and exactly the same time sequence and cast a spirit of delusion on so many people I knew and loved that was impenetrable, but not open to any fact, and divide families, and allow a two-tier discriminatory society all over the West in nations predicated by law and human rights and equality under the law, overnight, that everyone embraced a discrimination society.
Not to mention other horrible things like sacrificing children, feeding children up to an experimental injection, the idea of the loss of bodily autonomy, which is part of slavery, right?
Like all of this was so big and happening in a way that human history doesn't unfold, right? Human history, even with the worst tyrants, there are factions, there's backbiting, there's assassination attempts. Not everyone goes along with it all over the world all at once, ever. So I had to conclude that that scale of evil was metaphysical. Because human practice, even the worst human politics can't accomplish that.
And subsequently I concluded that if something that evil was metaphysical, it must be aimed at something metaphysical that was good. And so I became much more open to the idea that God or the creative force in the world that is good exists and exists in a really intimate way and cares about humanity and that this was a struggle between good and evil for the bodies and souls of humanity. 

And that whole struggle against good and evil, I mean, that's personally one of the issues which has helped me through it, and that is not a stick to lean on, that's accepting truth. Because chapter 5, thinking like a tyrant, and if you look into what has happened, the evil, but then your chapter 4, principalities and powers, that you realize that there is something more behind it. Because if all you see is the evil in humanity, then it's hopelessness.
But if you do believe and understand and realise there is that battle between good and evil which is bigger than that human aspect, then it means you can sit back, you can reassess it, and it's not hopelessness, it's actually looking past that. And to me that is the way we actually live through and see past the chaos that we've faced over the last three years. 

Yeah, I mean I agree with you if I understand what you're saying but I'm not sure that I agree that humanity is essentially good. I think and this is a difference between, I think it's a, I've had really interesting conversations that reveal the real differences in heritage between Jews and Christians. Christians are pretty sanguine right now because they in their book it all ends happily. Revelation, Jesus returns, it's all fine. And as a Jew, I'm freaking out.
And I'm freaking out because it doesn't really necessarily end happily in our story, right?
There were times when, you know, Jerusalem was reduced to rubble and its inhabitants were, you know, killed or enslaved.
There were times when we were exiled to Babylon and we wept beside the waters of Babylon and we missed Zion.
There were times when we were fed into ovens, you know, in post kind of Christian history or murdered by the Inquisition, like.
It doesn't end happily necessarily for us. That said, like without, without, how can I put it?
I think we're in a time of moral testing, and I don't think it's just going to be okay if we don't step up. And that's really the message of the Hebrew Bible, which I'm reading the 1560 Bible, aloud, which is the Founders Bible, very important Bible in England and Scotland. It was a Bible created before the King James Bible by English dissidents, reformers, who would be put to death in England, some of them were put to death, but they fled to Geneva. And there they just translated the Bible into English from the Hebrew. So it's the most accurate direct translation I've read.
I read Hebrew as well. And I'm not surprised that it's the Founders Bible and the Puritans Bible, because it has such a different, the translation is so different from the King James and other subsequent Bibles. My point is, it's definitely a Bible that conveys the message of the Hebrew Bible, which is don't wait for an intermediary. Someone else is not gonna make it okay. You have to, you know, walk with God, you know, along in the relationship that God set out and sought out, you know, with human beings if you want to be blessed, if you want life, like literally. And horrible things happen, not because of a punitive God, but because of universal laws, when people choose to worship themselves as, you know, as it's put, I think, several times in the Hebrew Bible. So, I guess I'm not saying you're not right. I personally don't think labels matter anymore.
I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying there are different kind of calculus is in the different religions about what we do.
And right now I'm very much in the Hebrew Bible calculus of, I don't think we're gonna survive this if we don't proactively, every single one of us, kind of align with the relationship that God set out for us with him.

A hundred percent. Following God, I don't think, negates our responsibility, because back if Abraham had not followed the call of God, then the history would be different. So we have our role to play, but I think probably the promises are what God says for a thousand generations. So it lasts past good times and bad times, and then goes further. But none of that negates our position and responsibility to do what we can do, that we are called to do, and the skills and the abilities and the talents that we have to actually make a difference.

I agree with you, absolutely. 

Chapter 6, the subtlety of monsters. Again, it can be over, you talk about vaccines did not manage to wipe out humanity's ability to reproduce, though live births are down 13 to 20 percent, it was central bank digital currencies, 15-minute cities, internet of things, GMO mosquitoes, there are whole, Dutch farmers de-banking as a whole plethora.
I've probably, when you see that, because it all comes, it is subtle.
It is for our good, for our health, to help us, for our convenience.
Convenience comes up often. How do you get past, or how do you kind of persuade people that these are evil?
Because often you can point out these issues, 15 minutes cities, oh, well, being local is good.
No, no, no, it's about restricting you, controlling you. And sometimes people cannot, despite what's happened the last three years, cannot see past that government propaganda, I guess.

Right. Yeah. Wow. That's such an important question.
And again, I think there are regional differences in how easy or hard it is to persuade the people around you that, you know, it may seem convenient or green, but it's really going to enslave you and your children forever.
So I wrote in The Bodies of Others, my last book, about the really toxic threat that the EU represents, in my view.
And I'm sure from what you just said, you might agree with this.
Or you already agree, and I should learn from you.
But the EU, again, having lived in Britain before Brexit for many years, I was very aware that Britain has a robust tradition of individualism and freedom of speech and the rule of law and people clamouring, Chartism, clamouring for representation in government.
It's not a Marxist communitarian history at all, or even that's not even organic to Britain's, not Britain, not Wales, not Ireland, not Scotland, no one's ideology.
It's not an organic part of the culture. And yet, I noticed over 10 or 15 years how really communist ideas were chipping away, chipping away, chipping away at that British tradition.
And then I really noticed in about 2015 or 16 that no one knew how to lobby their MPs anymore.
And when I would ask people later under, I'm not sure I have the timeline right, when Britain was part of Europe, I would say, do you know how to lobby your MEP?
And of course, then I looked at the structure of the European Union, and sure enough, it was a giant
mess that pretty much came down to, it's not a representative government at all, you know, not a meta government, it's not a government thing, it's a corporate thing that doesn't allow any real representation. And literally British journalists I knew didn't know that, right? They didn't know that, like the Sunday Times journalists did not know that the structure the EU did not allow for any actual representation. It's kind of, there's fog of war, you know, or glitter thrown in people's eyes about like red tape and bureaucrats. It's much more serious than that. There's like no representation, no transparency, no accountability. It's a coup, like Europe is a coup. So where I'm going with this is, and in retrospect that explained a lot of the opposition to Brexit, I think, and the efforts to kind of soften and soften and soften Brexit, as if you can soften one country not being part of, you know, another group of countries.
That's the world we're in, where that ideology is you can have a kind of virtual separation of countries that isn't real. I'm going somewhere with that, which is, I think it's now a lot harder for you in Britain to persuade people that the state isn't the source of everything, then it would have been even 15 years ago. And the other problem is people get so many benefits from the state in Europe and in Britain, and that's messaged as well, as benefits, right? And it's very tempting. Well, I have this free this and free that.
And I love it. Like, I used to be thoroughly on board with free health care and free universities and everything. Why not? I mean, fabulous.
The people deserve it.
But the dark side is that the discourse of individualism and individual rights becomes very theoretical.
Once they give you all these good things, then when they say, but you can't drive your car from here to here, it's very hard to realise that that was a poisoned gift.
In America, we're in a little bit of a different situation, thankfully, again, historically.
And I don't mean to be like, nyah, nyah, nyah. I really don't.
I think both countries have their challenges.
But just like there's a downside of individualism, like kids don't always get fed, and elders don't always get looked after and so on.
The upside is now in this crisis, we are like, hell no. And we also have a wonderful thing that the founders left for us, which is states.
And so states at a state level can reject lockdowns or mandatory vaccination or masking or closures of businesses, even if a federal government is out of control.
So what I've seen in America is people becoming very aware, based on an ideology of individual rights and individualism, that how central bank digital currency can switch you off, for instance.
Or my video about in March of 2021, I think about how vaccine passports that are digital can become a social credit system very quickly to banning them in 33 states.
But it's a constant fight to remind people, your liberty depends on protecting your liberty.
Luckily, we have a discourse of that still.
I feel like in Britain, that discourse got really, I mean, you're almost a racist in Britain or in Europe.
If you talked about being proud of being British or being proud of being French, that necessarily have to be a racist posture at all, but I think there was a deliberate cultural attack on the language of individualism and rights in Britain and in Europe.

Completely. I could delve much deeper in that, but I won't.
Chapter 7, White Feathers, you say in the DMs, people whom I knew socially or professionally, people from journalism, politics, medicine, would say, Naomi, I really respect your actions right now, I totally agree with what you're saying, but of course I can't do anything, and often these people were in positions of power, they could do something. And you mentioned individuals who have stood up, Dr. Peter McCullough, Ed Dowd, Steve Bannon in journalism, many others. I kind of thought that the desire to do right would rise up and would win the day, but obviously not. How did you, were you as surprised at that? The people who, the penny kind of was dropping and yet they just refused to do the right thing because of fear of what would happen? 

You know, Peter, I was completely surprised. I, to this day, I'm really in shock at what I witnessed because we all assumed, you know, we would know what to do if it was Germany in 1933 and that we would stand up against the Nazis and we would hide Anne Frank and we would, or, you know, if it was 1854, we would shelter that runaway slave. You know, we on the left, especially thought we were the good guys, you know, and that we stood up against tyrants.
So I was, and remain, appalled at the quisling, colours revealed by my former peers and friends that the, and even more appalled that they, they're not ashamed.
You know, like I've literally had people say, you know, loved ones say, well, I, you know, I'm going to get a booster, not because I believe in it or want to, but because I don't want to be kicked out of my bridge group or my, you know, play group, my mom's play group or, well, you know, as I wrote in facing the beast, the, the men, I mean, I'm sorry to gender this, but, you know, I've, I've kind of among the many things I've rethought on my journey is the point of men, and I mean, I've always been a fan of men as much as women, but like, men are kind of supposed to protect women and children, you know, in battle conditions or in dangerous conditions. I don't know why, I just think that's evolutionary necessity and also kind of the appropriate way to honour women and children.
So I guess what I was astonished to find is that on the right, men still think they should be courageous and stand up for their ideals and take risks on behalf of the greater good or their loved ones who are dependent on them.
And on the left, I was astonished to see grown men telling me why they were, you know, I'm not going to say the word because it's a naughty word, but, you know, very cowardly.
You know? And have no shame or self-consciousness about it.
And it's like, I'm out here at the front, man. You know, I'm taking the hits.
I have to, I had to have two armed, like retired NYPD detectives flanking me at my last speech.
I'm scared. Of course, I married my bodyguard, but out in the world, I'm still scared.
These guys are like, well, obviously, I'm not going to say anything because my boss might get mad at me or I might lose some marginal professional advantage or major professional advantage.
It's like people's lives are at stake. Children are at stake. They're injecting these tiny people who are not old enough to make decisions for themselves, who have no informed consent because they're minors. And you're not going to step out front with something you know to be wrong and say it's wrong. Or, I mean, don't get me started because obviously I have a lot of unprocessed grief and rage about this, but the two-tier society. All of these people are so right on. They would never discriminate against a gay couple or a lesbian couple or a person of colour ever, ever. They think that conservatives are the haters, right, and the people who discriminate. But these same people overnight in New York City and LA and other cities embraced a discrimination society and colluded with it a thousand percent and had no problem with the fact that I could not walk into, you know, most of the buildings in New York City. I could not sit indoors and eat with my family in a restaurant. I had to sit in the street like an animal. You know, they had no problem with that.
They had no problem with turning away or firing, you know, workers and students, disproportionately people of colour and lower income people. No problem. They had no problem with laws that were basically Jim Crow laws that applied to vaccination status. 
And a lot of them like gave rise to hateful rhetoric, you know, exactly like racism or anti-Semitism related to unvaccinated people. So I lost all respect, you know, I could go on to like subcategories like feminists, right? We know it's not, we're not babes in the woods. We know that big pharma has experimented on women's bodies and that corporations sometimes exploit women. We know that. I helped to break the story about silicone breast implants that were taken off the market. We know about thalidomide. We know about vaginal mesh. We know about estrogen being too high in birth control pills. This is so like feminism 101 that corporations and pharma and medicine can exploit women. It's not news. And I was a heroine when when I pointed this out with like industrialized birthing practices in my previous books among these same people.
But the fact that these injections are 62% of the adverse events are women, they're creating massive disabilities based on like bleeding among women.
They're sterilizing women. They're compromising placentas. Maternal deaths are up by 40%.
Babies are being born, birthed two months premature because the placentas are impaired by these lipid nanoparticles.
There's poison in breast milk. It's a war on women, especially women's bodies.
And I'm the crazy person for reminding people that women are being harmed and babies are being harmed.
Where are, and I talk about this in detail, I name names, like Justice Sotomayor, Justice Kagan.
They went on and on and on about my body, my choice when it came to abortion rights.
And they ruled against people having the right to decide what's injected into their own bodies, it's the same rhetoric. So yes, I lost a lot of respect for these people.

But obviously it was you pointing that out as a tweet that first brought you into being a conspiracy theorist, brought you into being a Tad, and then the FIDR documents, when you brought that out there. So what you look at over the last, I think, three years and you see points where individuals or organizations have produced the evidence this is what is happening. With Ed Dowd with his book listing, showing all the sudden deaths. With this, the Pfizer documents, how you and Daily Clout and the thousands of volunteers pulled that together. I mean, Tell us about the response to that, because when you put the information, you say, there it is, it is happening, here is the data. It's not just a tweet, it's just the data with all the references to it. And yes, hmm, hmm, oh well, we just carry on. Tell us about that, kind of the response to that, because that document was key.

Yeah, sure. I mean, God bless all these people now that their loved ones are or getting sick or dealing with turbo cancers or strokes, or they're reaching out for medical advice.
It's so heart-breaking.
So your audience may know that I oversee a project of 3,250 doctors and nurses and scientists and medical fraud investigators, biostatisticians, a range of high-level experts going through the Pfizer documents, which are these 450,000 pages released under court order that the FDA asked the court to keep hidden for 75 years.
And we've issued 89 reports. They're all on that upper right-hand corner of Daily Clout.
You can order them in book format. And they've documented the greatest crime against humanity in recorded history, again with a special focus on sterilization.
I'm going to skip ahead. And as you say, it's not my opinion, I'm not a medical doctor or a scientist.
All of these reports link to the primary source documents. So you can see for yourself, you know, we've got a report, someone just told me that her mom had a stroke.
And we've got a report showing that 48% of the serious adverse events, including death, in the stroke category, which is a massive category for adverse events after injection, half of them took place within 48 hours of the injection. You know, I could go on and on with the various categories that, you know, emerged among the many other headlines this team broke.
You know, blood clots, lung clots, leg clots, thrombotic thrombocytopenia, neurological damage at scale, haemorrhages, dementias, Alzheimer's, Bell's palsy, joint pain, interestingly, arthritis is number one side effect. Myalgia, which is muscle pain, is number two. Number three is COVID, because the injections by November of 2020 were proven internally not to stop COVID, to be completely ineffective. Vaccine failure was the internal language Pfizer used.
You know, there's not enough time for me to like document the headlines that the team has surfaced about harms that these people knew they were doing, again, especially reproductive harms.
But what is really important to bring people up to date on is the last four reports.
The first two last week showed that through a FOIA by our lawyer, Ed Berkovich, the White House drove a concealment in May of 2021 of harms brought to their attention that were blood damage, blood clots, and myocarditis.
And they looped in Dr. Walensky, Dr. Fauci, Dr. Collins, but it was 15 White House staffers convening a freak-out meeting to create a script, their language which is 17 pages long, all redacted to cover up this harm. And remember what happened in 2021 was mandates. Knowing this damage that it caused, they mandated it to kids, to soldiers, sailors, college students, and so on. But I'll skip ahead to the last really important story that your audience needs to know. Other, researchers, including Kevin McKernan at Medicinal Genomics, Dr. Philip Buchholz in South Carolina, they've independently found that the injections are contaminated.
And that the contaminants are fragments of DNA, fragmented DNA, and plasmids grown in E. coli which can enter your nucleus and cause untold harm, but also very concerning SV40, simian virus 40, which is a carcinogen. NIH and OSHA categorize it as a carcinogen that causes cancer in laboratory animals. So we're seeing these turbo cancers, you know, three, four months, someone goes from perfectly healthy to very sick to dead, things oncologists have never seen before.
And oncologists like Dr. Flowers on our team, Dr. Cole are really worried that this SV40 is a carcinogen that is related to these turbo cancers. And the last thing I'll say politically is that our team, Amy Kelly, my COO, found that Pfizer is concealing, redacting, while all these questions are coming up, how did this happen? How did it get contaminated and adulterated in this way? Pfizer created at the very end of the process, the process they, brought for emergency use authorizations called Process 1. And FDA signed off on it. It's fine. It's clean. Then Pfizer substituted an internal secret trial of process two. 200 people were injected with these contaminated formulations. They had a 2.4 times rate of adverse events as the other group. Then process two, a bait and switch, was rolled out into everyone's arms.
And process two has the carcinogens and the DNA fragments in it. And Pfizer has now redacted the manufacturing process with the FDA's collusion in their papers.

Well, I think you've laid out a perfect reason why people need to make sure and go on dailyclout.io and get themselves up to speed because it never ends. There's always something coming out. And I know our viewers and listeners will be eager to know what else is happening. Can we just finish, there are so many, the Chapter 8, Rethinking the Second Amendment, I would love to, but I'm not going to touch that. Chapter 12, Thanksgiving, gathering that, the kingdom of God, that connection of community. Chapter 16, How the Ancient Gods Returned, I love that just because the whole spiritual aspect, there's so much. But maybe just to finish off, I, never having written a book, but I assume you start out with a plan. This is what you want to do.
And I assume through the process, you learn things along the way. And as you put it together, people can get it from the 9th of November. What do you want to leave with people? What do you want to portray as they get the book, as they read it, what do you want that lasting thought to be with them as they read through it?

Great question Peter. May I note that you can pre-order it now even before the 9th of November and that's important because it sends a signal to the publishing industry when people pre-order, so please do, so I won't get cancelled yet again.
Let's see. What do I want people to leave with? Well, I guess this is kind of a different book than my other books. It's not an argument, it's a reflection and I think a lot of us have maybe all of us have been traumatized by the last two and a half years and also traumatized by the fact that our suffering and the shock we endured is being papered over and kind of dropped through the memory hole So, I was really inspired by a book called I Will Bear Witness by Victor Klemperer, which is just literally almost a journal of, you know, his life, I think, in Munich, you know, as the before and as the Nazis were coming to power, and just bit by bit, he couldn't shop in his local store, and bit by bit, he lost his housing, bit by bit, he, you know, the neighbours turned away from him, and he just chronicled it.
I think it's really important for there to just be a witness to this time, you know, in my humble way I tried to do that. And I think it's healing for people to have their experience kind of validated and reflected. It helps us actually move forward instead of being kind of pushed forward by the tyrants who want us to forget about it. That's number one. And I guess number two, what do I want? Well, I guess we're not allowed to proselytize in Judaism, and I don't like to ever. I think all these things are so personal. But I actually do think we're at an inflection point in history, Peter, where we may not survive if we don't look at ourselves in the mirror. And if that leads to us reconnecting to God, I think that will help us survive.
So I probably hope that that might happen as well, that people might,
I mean, such a surprise to me is to read the Geneva Bible and see that the persona of God is completely different from the way his persona has been translated in subsequent 500 years of translations.
And it turns out, in the original Hebrew and the Geneva Bible, super nice guy, like very different from this distant, remote, judgmental, irrational, punitive, censorious persona, which is all about the intermediary.
It turns out you don't need an intermediary. I mean, God isn't in heaven, it turns out.
That's a mistranslation. God is in the sky.
Like literally, God keeps being written out of translations.
But Jacob didn't wrestle with the angel.
It was God preparing him for this very difficult day. Like over and over again in the original, God just shows up for us in a non-scary, very human way, I guess I'd say.
And that's a surprise to me. So I guess I would want people who are feeling lost to have a sense of that, because it's very hopeful news.

Well, I certainly read not as an argument, you're right, but as you grasping, wrestling, understanding, for you personally, and also what it means to have a faith and to look up in these times.
And people can, yeah, it's available as e-book, as audio book, and as a physical copy.
So if nothing else, if you want to take away from this, then I encourage the viewers, listeners, to go click on the link, it'll be in the description, and you can pre-order that and get that from the 9th of November.
Naomi, I appreciate you coming on, love the book. Thank you so much for sharing with me and our audience.

Thank you so much, Peter. We always love talking to you. Thank you so much.