DailyClout have done phenomenal work over the last year, they have somehow managed to pull together a volunteer team of thousands to sift through the Pfizer dump and make sense of that mountain of data.
What Pfizer have tried to hide, DailyClout have exposed.
Dr Naomi Wolf returns to Hearts of Oak to look back at the success of this work and to talk about the recent battle with Yale about mandatory jabs.

Dr. Naomi Wolf is a bestselling author, columnist, and professor; she is a graduate of Yale University and received a doctorate from Oxford.
She is cofounder and CEO of DailyClout.io, a successful civic tech company.
Since the publication of her landmark international bestseller, The Beauty Myth, which The New York Times called “one of the most important books of the 20th century," Dr Wolf’s other seven bestsellers have been translated worldwide.
The End of America and Give Me Liberty: A Handbook For American Revolutionaries, predicted the current crisis in authoritarianism and presented effective tools for citizens to promote civic engagement.
Dr Wolf trains thought leaders of tomorrow, teaching public presentation to Rhodes Scholars and co-leading a Stony Brook University that gave professors skills to become public intellectuals.
She was a Rhodes scholar herself, and was an advisor to the Clinton re-election campaign and to Vice President Al Gore. Dr Wolf has written for every major news outlet in the US and many globally; she had four opinion columns, including in The Guardian and the Sunday Times of London.
She lives with her husband, veteran and private detective Brian, in the Hudson Valley.

Dr Wolf's latest book 'The Bodies of Others: The New Authoritarians, COVID-19 and the War Against the Human' available on Amazon
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Interview recorded 19.12.22

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TRANSCRIPT


(Hearts of Oak)
And hello, Hearts of Oak. Thank you once again for joining us. It's absolutely wonderful to have Naomi Wolf, Dr Naomi Wolf back with us once again. Naomi, thank you for your time today.


(Dr Naomi Wolf)
Thank you so much for having me on again. I really appreciate it.


(HoO)


No, it's wonderful having you.


And if people don't know already how to follow you, at Naomi R Wolf down at the bottom on GETTR, dailyclout.io. And Twitter actually, I saw you've been let back and you're still looking at, but no apology for the restriction of information and the harm it's done. So yeah, what are your thoughts on that?


(NW)
Yeah, well, I haven't tweeted yet because I'm waiting to be advised by my lawyer because we have initiated a gigantic lawsuit against Twitter and these other wrongdoers who have.
Colluded illegally to suppress my constitutional First Amendment rights. A private company is free to censor whom they want, but in the United States, they're not free to get together
with the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security and the White House, all of whom have been confirmed to have colluded with Twitter. So I'm waiting, but as you noted.
I did post on GETTR that I don't think it's cute at all. I don't understand people's kind of, you know, oh, hooray, welcome back. It's so exciting. These people, you know, we shouldn't
have ever let them become our town square. We shouldn't have ever given up the way human beings communicate with each other. We should not have let, you know, local newspapers die
for lack of subscribers because people got seduced by free news and the free news got scooped up by Facebook and Twitter. This is on us and we should never again let ourselves be kind of grateful for having our rights given to us. We've seen how that works. So they destroyed my life. I mean.
In many ways, I took a six figure hit for my company. Investors pull out when Twitter castigated me
around the world as a crazy person at the behest of my government for whom I had voted.
So I don't think it's cute. I don't think it's funny. And I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to go without a fight. They're going to pay for what they did. And it's not just about me. It's about every single voice that was silenced. It's about the principle of private companies, you know, engaging in literally the definition of fascism by coordinating with governments to suppress freedom of speech and dissent.


(HoO)
Yeah, not completely. The other way people can follow you, of course, is Substack.
So naomiwolf.substack.com and you get those directly in your inbox. And that's also a way of
supporting you because what you're doing doesn't come cheap.
We'll talk about the volunteer team, but I guess Substack is one way that people can sign up for free, but also they can go for a paid service and that helps you do what you're doing.


(NW)
I appreciate you mentioning that. Thank you. to be super clear that my sub stack is my personal kind of platform on which I share all of my writerly thoughts as a writer and it doesn't go to daily clout. I just want people to know that if they want to support daily clout, would please that it, you know, that is super important, especially because we have five legal teams, demanding justice of the evil doers of the last two and a half years, which is very, very expensive.
So people can get all my substack on daily clout, but they can also get the work of the 3,500 experts that the amazing project director and our COO now, Amy Kelly has organized into a research fighting force that's breaking headline after headline about what's in the Pfizer documents. 
And we've got a number of really important initiatives to support in 2023. One of them is clean voting, clean,
you know, we're going to pass clean voting bills in 50 states and federally. And of course.
We're aiming, as I may have told you last time, at launching a daily clout UK as soon as we can get the funding. But yes, thank you for mentioning that Peter right out of the gate, because we are in this crazy time in which they're like, I don't know, maybe under 50 really
committed freedom fighters with national or global platforms. And so many people are grateful to all of us, but not as many people actually realize we have to pay the bills, we have to pay hosting, we have to pay for equipment, production costs, editors, videographers, and all that support counts.


And to your organization as well, I hope everyone's sending Christmas gifts and Hanukkah gifts to Hearts of Oak because that's really important to you.


(HoO)
Thank you. Thank you. And of course, this time of year, Christmas time is time for gifts. And we, I think the first time you're on, we looked at your book, The Body of Others, and that is
available. If it's too late to get a hardback, I know it's available on e-book and downloadable as an audiobook.
What's the deal with that being available? Obviously I'm here in the UK,
it's probably not a book which you would find in your local bookshop. What's the deal over in the US? Has that been restricted at all? Is it simply available online from your website and from Amazon?
What's the situation?


(NW)


Yeah, well Amazon, thanks for asking. Amazon did play a lot of silly games in trying to
restrict access. Amazon is one of the bad guys in the bodies of others. So that wasn't
surprising. That seems to have calmed down, but you're quite right that all of my books,
I've been doing this for 35 years, right? I've written seven bestsellers and most of them have been bestsellers in Britain. And I've longstanding ties with the UK. I lived in the UK for many years.
I lived in Scotland for many years, Oxford. Literally everybody in Britain who says they go into Waterstones or they go into even Blackwell's or any bookstore asking for my book, it's not out.
The Body of Others is not out. And there's a kind of grudging willingness to order it. And the same is true in the United States. I mean, it was bizarre. We sold more copies for a number of weeks than the copies that were on the New York Times bestseller list of other books.
Like thousands and thousands more copies. The New York Times just would not put me on its best seller list.
So, you know, the body of others has had a journey, but it's getting into the hands of readers.
You can get it on Amazon, I believe. You can get it, sometimes Amazon will say, we don't ship there, which is something Amazon never says about anything else anywhere.
And you can get it at allseasonspress.com, but I do want to tell people, very exciting.
There's a gift boxed set that's just been made available of my book and Robert Kennedy Jr's The Real Anthony Fauci together.
And I really do think that's so exciting, quite historic because I do feel like those books should be read side by side.
R.F.K Jr's book really tells the inside story of the crimes of Dr. Fauci, not just now, but leading up to now. He's not new at crime. And my book kind of gives the social and cultural and economic background for how Dr. Fauci exploited, and probably helped to launch the illnesses and promoted these injections of the last two and a half years. To the detriment of all of us.
So I'm really excited to tell people that that's out there. Encourage them to gift it to your loved ones, especially those who don't believe any of it.
It is a perfect Christmas present. It is a perfect gift to people.
And that box says available on dailyclout.io. It's just there on the left-hand side. People can click on it and order it.


(HoO)
Now, Naomi, you've founded Daily Clout back in 2016. And this year, 2022, you've done an overview of what it's been like in the three areas, you kind of focused on in it were what legal webinars to help citizens fight back against officials and employers. Five freedoms, draft legislation to protect freedoms. Pfizer vaccine trial research. Now, certainly for me personally, it's the Pfizer vaccine trial research that I know much more about. Tell us about the legal webinars because many people have found themselves in problems, certainly at the workplace and in different areas with officials with the tyranny we've all faced. So tell us about those webinars. And how they can assist the public.


(NW)
Sure. Oh, just to note, I co founded it with a co founder named Lisa Thomas. But I am the CEO and president. And so thank you for that summary of our huge, you know, milestones in 2022. Again, with everyone's support, we could not have done it without the support of your audience and, and others.
So the legal webinars are really an incredible model. Most of them have been with this lawyer in Buffalo, New York, named James Ostrowski, and he is a fierce freedom fighter, but he's also very, very good at explaining legal processes to people.
A huge part of our mission in our kind of core deliverable is that we aim to demystify legislation.
We aim to make democracy more usable by absolutely anyone, to disintermediate the experts who are trying to shut people out of the process.
And so it's definitely on mission for us on brand to have a wonderful lawyer explaining to people, saving them thousands of dollars, how they can file their own lawsuits, civil suits, and also file criminal charges.
So he did two really powerful webinars, one in which he explained to people who were very upset about, at that point, masking children in schools and injecting children,
and teens with mRNA injections in schools without parental consent.
In the United States, he taught people how to file civil charges themselves basically against any elected official from the school board all the way up to the governor you know all the way up to on a federal level which I love like why not right these people are absolute criminals and they need to be personally accountable because so much of what we
saw in the last two and a half years came from a clear sense of impunity you know these people thought they would never be held accountable personally and the other thing he taught people is how to file criminal charges with, for instance, your local sheriff's office.
For instance, if they're masking your child, you notify the authorities that they're engaging in child abuse. And that's not a slam dunk. You still have to have enforcement.
But it did, I know that all of these citizens filing all of these actions across the country, whether they were gestural or not, whether the authorities followed up or not, did create
second thoughts and it changed the atmosphere.
And as a former political consultant, and the same with the Five Freedoms campaign, where we met with legislators in five states to pass bills ending the state of emergency,
mask mandates, ending vaccine mandates, allowing freedom of assembly, and opening schools because at that time schools were closed. We may not have passed all those bills in every state, but legislators have told us that the scrutiny and the empowerment of citizens really created a leverage point to break that kind of mass of tyranny and impunity state by state. So I know that that's powerful because people think twice when they get a lawyer's letter or when their criminal charges filed against them. They may not go right to jail, but they don't forge ahead in quite the same way.


(HoO)
Tell us when you look back because I think one of the main focuses of Daily Clout when I started was looking at legislation and BILLCAM is there and it's quite a unique feature
showing what is happening, who's proposed amendments and everything is there. I know from working in parliament here in the UK it's sometimes extremely difficult to find
out what is happening to make any sense of it. But that was your focus and what's happened over the last 18 months or so is probably a move away from that, although it is looks to look at legislation, but many other attacks. As you kind of finish the year, what are your
thoughts as you look back on what actually Daily Clout have achieved in a changing environment, I guess? 
(NW)
I love your questions. Thank you. Well, just, you know, you're right to notice that Daily Clout the editorial side has really, I wouldn't say split away from legislation, the legislative
focus but you know expanded because of the the urgent civil rights threat posed
by mandated vaccines. Like we're not, we weren't founded for health freedom. A lot of the
people we work with, a lot of our allies, you know, were founded for health freedom.
But right now in history in the West, certainly and globally, the way that human liberties are being restricted and human life is being threatened,
and crimes are being committed is through the weaponization of medicine or medical discourse medical interventions, medical interventions. So that we have devoted a ton of
editorial focus to that. But the, the kind of product side is, is still robust and we're kind of increasingly separating these into kind of two, not two companies, but two brands really, because we are just launching our business to business product, which I'm so, so excited about where you can, you know, if you're an advocacy organization, can get just if
you do you know health care you can get just health care legislation in your own
portal if you're in finance you can get just banking legislation in your own portal and so on so that'll empower everyone you know but it'll it'll also be you know specifically focused on
presenting legislation in a way that is specific to your own whatever it is you're interested in
specifically. And I want to say that 125,000 people have used,
BILLCAM a month. So it's really successful. So we're going to keep growing but in parallel tracks. And as you mentioned, Daily Clout itself, the big project that really was the hallmark of 2022 was this amazing assortment 3,500 experts going through the Pfizer documents. And I'm so proud of them and of Amy Kelly.


(HoO)
But tell us about that because I know we've touched on it before, but that was a mammoth effort. And I guess the data was released in a way that didn't make sense and wasn't possible, to analyse it. Most people then would have put on social media and complained about that. But.
Actually it's a different thing to complaining the situation and doing something about it.
And you pull together that team and if it wasn't for the efforts of those volunteers connected with Daily Clout, with War Room, then the public wouldn't actually have been aware of all of the failings through that process.


(NW)
Yeah, that was honestly, I just can't even explain the success of that project without feeling like we had some kind of metaphysical wind at our backs, because you can imagine,
And I really cannot take credit for it.
I mean, when I tried to say, okay, we're going to put a call out for experts to read these documents, because I really do believe in and I've had good experience like crowdsourcing expertise, that's part of the idea behind BILLCAM, right?
Like people can comment on these dense pieces of legislation and illuminate them kind of collectively.
But when I went before the great Amy Kelly, I, and even my colleagues, we were
hurting cats.
I mean, it was like literally beyond anyone's managerial ability or, or even like, how do you even digitally manage 3,500 experts reading through 55,000 documents?
But Amy Kelly has supernatural powers of management and organization.
I literally don't understand how she does it, but she came in and, you know, the only credit I can take is that I recognize incredible leadership skills when I see them. And she did us the honour of becoming our project manager and now our COO, as well as our project manager.
And she just magically organized these 3500 experts in medicine and science, biostatisticians, medical fraud investigators, data analysts, lab clinicians, physicians,
nurses into six teams.
And then there's kind of an expert group reviewing the work of each of the six teams. And then it goes through a checking process with a meta team.
And then it goes through editorials so that we take, and this is again, This is the only other little piece I can take credit for.
It's very hard to turn even the most accessible medical writing into journalism that everyone can understand.
But it's so important for everyone to understand it. So there's a robust kind of back and forth to get those reports readable.
And then we launch them. But I've just got to credit her. And these 3,500 people who are literally around the world working for free, drawing on their expertise, many of them can't even be named because they're kind of doing it surreptitiously because they would get fired, you know, if they use their expertise publicly to help their fellow human beings and to stop the greatest medical fraud in human history and not just greatest medical fraud, but to stop what is clearly turning into a mass murder event.
So I just like, it's so beautiful that these 3,500 nameless souls, you know, labour and serve humanity in this way.
And we also have these 250 volunteer lawyers, many of whom have now started to write letters, to attorneys general across the United States, warning them of reckless endangerment, of fraud, of misleading advertising, various crimes that Pfizer is committing specifically.


(HoO)
Well, there are many things which you've helped expose. I know just this week, I think it was a few days ago, you were talking about hypertension. And whenever the layperson hears terms, I think, well, it doesn't sound good. But on the article you put this, known as elevated blood pressure, a serious medical condition that significantly increases the risk of heart, brain, kidney, and other diseases.
And you were talking about this of what you've pulled out from the Pfizer, but also from VAERS data, which just adds to everything else that is coming out. Do you want to let us know what you've found on that?


(NW)
Sure. It's very important. I mean, this team has found
so many headlines that really have saved lives, and this is another one. So someone very close to me, whom I cannot name, perfectly healthy 84-year-old woman, perfectly healthy before she got three, injections, Moderna.
Was taken to the hospital over the past weekend because of tightness in her chest and they diagnosed hypertension, which literally this is a woman who has eaten right her entire life, exercised her entire life.
She's the right weight for her height. She's just everything right. You know, hypertension in our family, nothing, right? And suddenly this manifests.
So of course her doctors are like, as they always are, with all of these side effects with everyone I know who's being injured by the vaccines, the doctors like, we have no idea.
And then it's literally right there in the Pfizer documents, like whatever it is these people are
suffering from that they didn't suffer from before.
You know, we do a search with this tool. One of our volunteers created called abstractor and there it is. So I asked Amy Kelly to search for hypertension or high blood pressure in Pfizer documents.
And she found 242 different iterations. And then she searched the VAERS database and what the results she got were 108,000 rows of data.
So, and the system said, we can't even print this out for you, you have to resubmit under 10,000 rows each.
So it was like a signal so massive, it broke the pipeline essentially. And for your audience in the UK, excuse me, and even in the US and around the world, The VAERS database is supposed to be the thing that... of harm that the CDC, our Center for Disease Control, our big kind of medical safety agency is supposed to be monitoring.
Like that's Rochelle Walensky's job. That's literally her main job.
And here is the signal so massive that it kind of overwhelmed her own system.
And yet it was Amy Kelly in a guest bedroom in Denver, Colorado, who found it, and me in a guest bedroom in Salem, Massachusetts, who's announcing it to the world, instead of the multi-billion dollar CDC, funded with our tax dollars.
And then Dr. Ely did a recheck. He verified her results.
And he also, he's a VAERS CDC expert because of his own work with senators, Linthicum and
Senator Thatcher in Oregon, with a grand jury investigation demand of the CDC,
for data mishandling.
And he found tens of thousands of results of high blood pressure in the VAERS database and 1500 people died, 1500 people died.
And again, the variations on high blood pressure are so massive and we now have Vigilant Fox who's joined us, which I'm proud to say.
He's a wonderful kind of commentator who boils down stories and creates videos.
And he's a former nurse.
And he explained, I'm like, why is hypertension a big deal? Why do we care about it? It doesn't sound that serious, right? And he explained, you know, that it can be very dangerous.
He explained it in his piece about what we found. And Dr. Ely elaborated on why hypertension is so serious.
You can die of it. People are dying of it. So, you know, we have to add these 1500 people minimum because the VAERS under reports by one, I'm sorry, the VAERS is estimated to report only one to 10% of the true number of adverse events. So we've got,
you know, scores, what would it be if you've got 1500, we could have 15,000 people dead of hypertension who would not have been dead of hypertension prior to receiving
the mRNA vaccines. And also the last thing I'll say about this is that all of these horrible pieces are starting to fit together, Peter, medically. I've talked about lipid nanoparticles.
They're an industrial fat. Well, they're in your blood now, you know, if you've been vaccinated. So there are all these clotting effects, these lung clots, blood clots, the Pfizer documents are full of clots.


And nurses have even described the difference between vaccinated being very viscous,
and unvaccinated blood being a different color and not not so thick.
These industrial fats exist, they're like a like the opposite of an emulsifier. They exist to thicken things. Right. and as I reported earlier and I'm surprised no one's really paying attention to this, but it's more of a kind of industrial product discussion than a medical product discussion, which may be why the doctors are not wading into it. But lipid nanoparticles, they solidify at room temperature. They get thicker as you warm them. And I warned everyone, remember all that weird chilling, that it has to be so cold, it has to be so cold. And I did a piece on the variability. I think we talked about this of instructions
that how cold to keep the vaccines. Well, what good does it do to keep this material super freezing chilled in a freezer if you inject it into a human body, which is 98.6 degrees
Fahrenheit, you know, some Celsius, you know, it's going to change. And so if you think
about what hypertension does to the heart, right, it makes the heart work harder, it pushes the blood against the arteries, you know, more than it should be pushed against the arteries.
That's an effect you would get if your blood is sticky, as Dr. Ely said. And he actually has a different mechanism for what causes the sticky blood and explained that in more detail. But,
you know, there could be multiple factors, you know, ruining people's blood, basically, in circulation. And I'm just heartsick about this. And I hope, I hope millions of
people watch this interview, because right now, pretty much nobody knows outside of you, me, and and the War Room posse and whoever's reading our sub stacks about this, that this is happening. That's a side effect.


(HoO)


Well, one of the things that really has worried me is the whole issue of blood transfusion. And I know there has been one case in New Zealand with parents losing access to their child because they wanted the child to have a transfusion with unvaccinated blood. And I know, I think on Daily clout, there's an interview there with an organization that looks at this. And that's a whole other area because many of us no longer trust our health system. And therefore what happens if you're in need of blood? And that's a huge step because very few of us have any idea of how to even set up a system whereby that's available. Because you obviously don't want to receive blood if it is infected with something that can cause damage to your body.


(NW)
Absolutely. And this is, it's such a heart-breaking, unbelievable story, but it's also so predictable. I mean, I say unbelievable and predictable at the same time. Those are the times we're living in.
Months and months ago, I warned on War Room that the last step of this train we were on would be that people's children would be removed from them. That is the ultimate leverage. And that's what that we're seeing in formerly free, formerly enlightened New Zealand and subsequently around the world.
Like if we don't fight this fight in every country, that's gonna be everywhere.
The whole world is gonna be like China and now like New Zealand and like Australia in horrible ways and on and on.
And I'm hearing terrible things about Britain about restricting assembly. I need to find out more about that or restricting travel.
But back to your question about blood, it is true that I don't believe anything these people
say anymore either.
I mean, my loved one said with relief that this bracelet she'd been assigned to wear, someone had told her returns unreliably high numbers.
different kinds of medical bracelet. And my first thought was, well, of course it does, because that's how you guarantee the endless consumption of the hypertension medications,
which are made by guess who, Pfizer.
So yeah, I don't trust any of them. The blood supply is a bad question, but predictably, unvaccinated semen, unvaccinated eggs. Unvaccinated surrogate moms and unvaccinated blood are gonna be the black market or the gold of the near future if they aren't already.
And I do think we have to create an alternative medical system as well as an alternative scientific system, alternative economic system.
But I know that some doctors have started to do this. I know that Dr. Alexander and Dr. McCullough and other dissident doctors have united in something I think is called the Wellness Project.
And I just would refer people to them and to FLCCC and to Dr. Ely because I don't know that they have access to unvaccinated blood, but I think we're gonna start to have like networks of donors, informally, people saying like, I'll step in for your baby, I'm type O or I'm unvaccinated.
I mean, it's going to be like an underground railroad, medically.


(HoO)
Well, I don't know whether it will be that people just have a small freezer at home and they stick their blood in. It's a strange way. Again, we have to look for solutions to the madness that we face and the solutions can be very different from what's been done before.
But then over in, it seems to be that there is actually more voices, certainly in the political realm.
Here we've had Andrew Bridgen MP who stood up and called for mRNA vaccines to be immediately suspended certainly with children. And I know I watched the whole day of meetings with Senator Ron Johnson, Senator Rand Paul has been very vocal as has Ron De Santos.


Are you seeing a change because you're putting the information out, and others are putting the information out. It is all there to read and to make an informed decision that this is not good. We must immediately suspend until further notice. Are we seeing a change with some of our politicians actually wakening up to it? 
(NW)
I mean, yes, yes and no. I think it's huge that you had a parliamentarian call for this. And culturally, when a taboo is broken, that has a big impact, even if you don't get immediate colleagues rushing to stand next to him or immediate positive press coverage.
Things are changing, not fast enough, not comprehensively enough.


I'm a lifelong Democrat, I'm now an independent, but the change in the makeup of the House in the United States starting in January, that Republicans will be in charge.
That is having a ripple effect around the world or certainly around the West
because different people will be able to hold investigations, have subpoena power.
And so if there have been alliances, for instance, between Britain and the US, which there often are around these issues, those will be disclosed. And I guess I just don't get that
happy about it, but I'm also very annoyed because what you're gonna start to see is rats jumping ship, or people, and I'm seeing this with the, you know, literati and the intelligentsia.
Oh, I never believed that. I was always there with you, you know, I, you know, with that things were crazy, right?
I mean, you know, and so people are trying to get ahead of indictments and they're trying to lay down paper trails in the event of investigation.
And in some cases, and I think we'll see this with people Rochelle Walensky, Dr. Walensky, Dr. Fauci, and my husband Brian O'Shea, an investigator many years in the intelligence community, points this out.


The first person to get to turning on their peers gets a reduced sentence or other kinds of immunity. So I think we're going to see a rush to throw others under the bus once the Republicans take power. 


But it's not enough. I mean there are still ads every day, people tell me in states across my country telling people to inject their children.
The CDC still lies every single day. I can't believe what I saw just this morning. The CDC is telling people on its website that teenagers and minors have a right to choose vaccination of any kind in spite of their parents' wishes. It's not true. It's a lie. But they just lie and lie and
lie. Dr. Ely broke this story yesterday when I interviewed him or the day before, I beg your pardon, that is shocking. He found that the CDC has removed 32,000 cases. I may have the number slightly..... I'll say tens of thousands till I can check the number, but cases of myocarditis from the VAERS database between September and December, just removed them, which is illegal and probably has to do with, you mentioned DeSantis. Governor DeSantis and Dr. Lattapos' plans for a grand jury investigation, that's Dr. Walensky covering up evidence of a crime, right, or trying to. 
So yes, things are changing, but as a journalist, I guess I'm especially angry as a journalist because the Guardian isn't joining you in saying, here's investigative reporting we've done, this has to stop.
They took the money. The BBC took all the money.
They're not joining you in actually investigating the spike, the doubling of baby deaths.
They call it a spike, to hide the number in Scotland. 


I mean, so many things are not happening with the news media because of the pipeline of money and because of their own complicity.
They committed crimes too, they took the money and they have blood on their hands and people died. And I don't know how that will play out,
in terms of litigation, but I know that when this worm actually turns and the bodies have been duly counted, that the diabilities, and every country now is showing a signal of dramatic 13% rise in Australia above the norm for deaths, unexplained deaths, 20% I believe in Germany, and the unborn babies, the drop in babies that Igor Chudin documented, an average of 20% I believe worldwide in the, databases he's looked at.
Media are going to be hauled into court for participating in fraud and reckless endangerment. And I'm a free speech absolutist, but they deserve to because it is illegal to endanger people and kill them by covering things up and forcing them basically to make choices they wouldn't make otherwise. 
So it's going to be a bloodbath.


(HoO)
How do you think that, because one of the headlines from Senator Ron Johnson's hearings was, and I think you covered in Daily Clout, analysis shows 26% worse mortality amongst mRNA vaccinated.
So the information is out there, at some point people have to be held to account. And often in the UK being held to account means actually promoted or given a better job somewhere. That's what you're held to a coin. Heads do not roll. I'm guessing at some point those in charge in the CDC, in the pharm industry need to be penalized, be punished for what's happened. Is that private prosecutions? Is that state by state? Is the whole De Santos being vocal? Is that a breakthrough in that area?


(NW)
Well, De Santos is being more than vocal, he's calling for a grand jury investigation. And that's serious. And he's the first governor to do that.
And I know that his popularity is off the charts. So punishment for COVID crimes is going to play very, very well in many parts of our country and probably in yours as well.
Because the truth has a way of coming out.
In spite of Britain being in a more opaque information bubble than the US, from what I can see, there are people like you and people like Mark Steyn and a few other truth tellers.
People just aren't stupid. They look around and look at the symptoms that their loved ones experience and they put pieces together over time.
So yes, DeSantis' approach is important, again, culturally, by breaking that seal, not just saying, well, because what the evildoers want to do now is, that Emily Osterpiece, we didn't know, the science was evolving, it's time for amnesty, let's make s'mores and
sing kumbaya, crazy, crazy times.
And that's..... there's a reason there was an Nuremberg trial after World War Two.
There's a reason that the Nazi doctors were hanged, you know, in a long, a long.
People in journalism who promoted Nazi policies were also punished cruelly. And that has to happen, right? If that hadn't happened, Nazism would have reared its ugly head much earlier.
But how can I put it? I think that there's a risk that the move on forces will prevail unless we are very assertive and strategic and organized. And here's one reason why.
Even though the Republicans are in power in the U.S., Bill and Melinda Gates are still out there pouring money into every news outlet, filling the coffers of left and right. And the same pharma money goes to your country, and the same big tech money goes, to distort your media and your social discourse. And the other thing is that I just have to be honest, we
fought really hard in the United States to get some of our democracy back, like really hard grassroots, moms organizing, people doing audits, people kind of educating
themselves through entities like BILLCAM, what does the law really say? How do I talk to my, showing up in Albany, showing up at their state houses, in Britain? I'm sorry to say this,
I love Britain dearly. You're in a post-democratic situation now. I created BILLCAM partly because I did an informal poll of people around me in Oxford in a pub like five years ago and said, do you know how to lobby your member of parliament?
And do you know how to, and this was when Britain was still part of the European Union, do you know how to lobby your MEP?
And nobody knew. And there's no disrespect to the British. Your system has deliberately been made. One of the greatest democracies, the original democracy in the world, the process of, as you know, from having worked in parliament.
The lobbying of your representative process is so opaque and mysterious that people have been completely disempowered.
And the last thing I'll say, and then I will really stop, is part of why we're so eager to launch Daily Clout and
BILLCAM is that part of the reason I designed it the way I did is from having looked at parliament.uk. and your legislative database.
Is it literally impossible to find out what the laws are? I mean, my book was smeared, a book I wrote about 19th century British laws about sodomy was smeared and attacked based on a law that no one could find, right?
A legislative database that was completely opaque. And when you try to follow parliament.gov.uk, it often sends you in a circle and it ends in a dead link or it says things like, well, these laws are in scrolls and you have to be a lawyer to access that.
Like scrolls, like that is not a thing in the digital era. And so it's very disturbing that digital
technology is used to put forward a face of accessibility, especially in Britain, but actually used to hide and conceal legislation and legislative processes from the citizens.
Sorry to be so nerdy, but I care a lot about this.


(HoO)
No, our laws are opaque and also can be read in so many different ways and that's the problem. And then the courts spend their time trying to make sense of bad legislation, which keeps getting different amendments put on it. But I want to finish off just by, you said about Bill and Melinda Gates are still around, talked about the money going into institutions and.
One of those institutions is Yale University. And you put up a number of things, obviously you were at Yale, which I think says the third oldest university in the States, then look back, in Oxford was there 300 years before. So, but we'll not even get into that.
You've spoken about this and highlighted the money going into Yale and I guess that control.
Tell us about that because that shows the hold that these large institutions have on our education system.


(NW)
Yeah, that was a shocker. So I was invited to speak at a rally outside of Yale against this
hellish policy the university has mandated that even if students, undergraduates, healthy
undergraduates have both the initial injections and booster, they have to take the bivalent booster before they can even come back to campus after winter break and resume their studies.


And, this is, I mean you can imagine how insane this is as more and more and more evidence mounts up that particularly young adults are at greater, I mean the British Medical journal just ran a piece just in time for Yale to save face if it repeals its mandate by the way
but you know whatever works you know pointing out that young adults it's unethical to have university mandates because young adults are at more risk from the injection and myocarditis and they don't you know not to mention the menstrual problems that women
are suffering then and they are from the virus itself.
And so I gave a speech, you know, I am a mom and if parents don't speak up about, and I'm an alumna, you know, and if parents and alumni don't speak up to protect these undergraduates, and the faculty and staff are not mandated, meaning the administration isn't mandated.
It's just the kids, it's just the students, right? Makes no sense at all, no sense at all.
And so I thought, well, what, you know, usually there's money driving insane policies. And again, my, got to credit, Brian O'Shea. The world's best investigator, he quickly fell on the money trail by looking at a database of government funding called TAGGS and as well as Yale's own internal records.
And Yale makes 200 million more every year year from HHS grants, then from then from tuition. So that's $600 million a year from HHS, about 400 plus from
tuition. And so they need HHS more than they need their students. So they're basically at in my argument, trafficking their students. Yale has received $6 billion from HHS since 1998, 1.7 billion since COVID began.
And I broke out individual grants and there's so much nonsensical bribery, like, you know, over a million dollars to go to Karachi to look at burial grounds to assess the impact of COVID, to look at burial grounds, you don't know how they died, right?
They're dead, they're buried. You know, not looking at medical records, not looking at, you know, like, look, physically look at burial grounds or 3.4 million for student emergency COVID care.
And it takes you to a dead link. What did they use that for? forced injections? distance learning? who knows?
But the point is they're literally trafficking the kids. And I looked at the Connecticut and federal law against human trafficking, and it literally applies to what Yale is doing because you don't have to be sexually trafficked or transported to be trafficked.
You have to be forced or coerced to provide labour or services that you have a legal right to refuse. And that's literally what's happening to the bodies of students at Yale.
And for sure, as I said in my speech, going to be young men whose hearts are damaged, who could drop dead, young women who will be permanently injured menstrually with, I mean, in Pfizer documents, the horrors around menstruation.
Either 20 different names in Pfizer documents for horrible things that happen to your body
menstrually, like menstruating always, right? Or two periods, like, can you imagine being a
female student menstruating every single day of your life, or two periods a month, or horrible haemorrhages, agonizing cramps. So in addition to trafficking, in my view, it's also a violation of Title IX because they're certainly going to be inflicting on some of those undergraduate women infertility and agonizing disability. So that was what I had to say there. And I hope and believe they're hearing from alumni and parents but sadly from what I heard from at least one parent Yale is tasking this horrible woman named Stephanie Spengler, Dr. Spengler, with managing the calls from distraught parents.
Stephanie Spengler was the woman tasked with managing my trying to file a grievance against an active sexual predator on campus.
She's the managing of injustices and she literally is sending parents in circles. not saving the kids yet. The kids are still at risk. And I don't know the situation in the UK. I mean, are they mandating Oxford and Cambridge students?


(HoO)
I think it depends on someone. I talked to a friend of mine and sadly they were going to University for Medicine and sadly they made the choice to get injected to be able to go. It seems to be that there are quite a number of universities. It's not across the board and of course they make their own decisions each time. And after someone's been
accepted, everything's ready and then suddenly they say, oh, of course you're vaccinated.
You know, at some point, the closer you get to actually attending it, it's too late. You can't just go and change your mind and go elsewhere.
So yeah, that's exactly,


(NW)


I'm sorry to jump in there, Peter, but this is super painful what you're
describing, this young woman Phoebe Liu is a University of Connecticut student, she's like 19 or 20, she said that they dangle just what you said, they're on campus, they've chosen their classes, they paid their money and that the university dangles their future like a lure on a string and withholds it, for these constantly escalating physical requirements. And as I put it in my speech, it's not just the harm to these young people's bodies. What it's doing to
them psychologically is going to scar them for life. And they're being groomed to accept a terrorizing reality in which authorities can do anything at any time to you.


(HoO)
And again, in the UK, you don't get to choose. So you turn up and you get injected into whatever they have that day. So I've talked to doctors who have gone for the jabs and they have no idea what they're going to get. They just, well, whatever they put in me and that level of absolute belief and confidence in your government is frightening. But that's where we are.


(NW)
They don't know what brand or what dose? 
(HoO)
When they arrive, if they ask, they can be told, but whenever you make an appointment.
You can't say, I would prefer to have the Johnson & Johnson because not an mRNA as opposed to Pfizer.
You don't get to choose that. You turn up and you get whatever they give you on the day. No choice.


(NW)
I just want to tell people that the Pfizer documents show that Moderna is three times more lethal than Pfizer and of course Pfizer is more lethal than J&J.


(HoO)
Wow. On that happy note, we will finish off. Thank you Dr. Naomi Wolf for joining us. It's absolutely
wonderful to have you on and thank you for coming on, sharing what Daily Clout have been doing over the last year and what you've been doing. So thank you so much for,
your time.


(NW)
Thank you, Peter. And I should end by saying, you know, it has been a year of great progress when all of us have been fighting together. So let's hope that 2023 will be sane and healthy
and back to a post-enlightenment discourse in liberty for all. And thank you so much for your support for our work as well.


(HoO)
No, not at all. And just to our viewers and listeners, if you haven't already got Bodies of Evidence, it is a wonderful Christmas present to give to someone to help open their eyes a little bit. So I'd encourage you to get a copy, if you can't get a hard copy of this set it's available certainly on ebook and audiobook.

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