About McLean Hospital. Referrals, COVID impact, capacity, stigma. Still need more resources & shift towards treating mental health on par with physical health.

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Welcome to Health Hats, learning on the journey toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged, old, cisgender, white man with privilege, living in a food oasis, who can afford many hats and knows a little about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. Most people wear hats one at a time, but I wear them all at once.  I'm the Rosetta Stone of Healthcare. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare.  Let's make some sense of all this.

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Contents
Proem.. 1

Podcast intro 01:49. 2

Health is fragile 02:41. 2

Leadership at McLean’s Hospital 04:08. 2

Levels of care 05:12. 2

Massachusetts Child Psychiatry Access Project (MCPAP) 07:04. 3

Supporting Primary Care 09:41. 3

Mental illness and Covid 11:59. 4

Capacity – space, and staff 13:28. 4

Using Peer Experts – lived experience 16:12. 5

A word from our sponsor, Abridge 17:56. 5

 Call to action 18:39. 5

Coalitions and partnerships 20:26. 5

Academics, research, advisory panels 24:43. 7

Stigma 27:13. 7

Level the playing field between physical and mental health 30:07. 8

Reflection. 8

Podcast Outro 33:49  9
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Proem
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Continuing the series spiral with emerging adults with mental illness at the center, along the outbound curve, we experienced a parent, a high school teacher, primary care and emergency doctors, and community services. Now we arrive at mental health providers in the person of Michael Macht Greenberg, who administers an integrated system of mental health medical services, McLean Hospital, of the preeminent healthcare system, Mass General Brigham’s Hospital. I met Michael working together at Boston Children’s Hospital. Michael was the administrative director of the Department of Medicine, and I led the patient/family experience initiative. We both left Boston Children’s more than ten years ago. As circumstances allow, we still meet for coffee at least quarterly, in person or virtually. Michael’s low-key presentation belies his passion and compassion for emerging adults and people with mental illness.
Podcast intro 01:49
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Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this.

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Health is fragile 02:41
Health Hats: Michael, thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate it. I love seeing you. This is different from our usual coffee at Pete's.

Michael Macht Greenberg: Always good to be with you. Thanks for asking to chat.

Health Hats: Yeah. When did you first realize health was fragile?

Michael Macht Greenberg: Wow. As a kid growing up, when you start losing people, grandparents, and great-grandparents, you start realizing you can lose people. Those people who have been important in your life aren't around anymore. Fortunately, I am a healthy guy, and my experience with fragile health is limited. I'm fortunate that, with limited exception, that hasn't been too dramatic or traumatic. But while growing up and realizing the people you love aren't around forever,

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