How to Heal Multiple Sclerosis with Dr. Terry Wahls

In this episode of The Dr. Hedberg Show, I interview Dr. Terry Wahls in a discussion about how to heal Multiple Sclerosis.  We had an excellent discussion about how she overcame Multiple Sclerosis, her research into MS, The Wahls Protocol Diet, the causes of MS, how the gut and the microbiome influences autoimmune disease, the Paleo diet compared to the Wahls Protocol and much more.

If you have MS or know someone who does, please share this episode and transcript of the interview below.  It may be the turning point for you or a loved one by following The Wahls Protocol.

Dr. Hedberg: Well, welcome everyone to the Dr. Hedberg Show. This is Dr. Hedberg, and I'm very excited today to have Dr. Terry Wahls on the show. So, Dr. Wahls is a Clinical Professor of Medicine at the University of Iowa. She's the author of the book, "The Wahls Protocol: How I Beat Progressive MS Using Paleo Principles and Functional Medicine," and also the cookbook, "The Wahls Protocol Cooking for Life: The Revolutionary Modern Paleo Plan to Treat All Chronic Autoimmune Conditions." You can learn more about her work from her website. It's terrywahls.com. That's terrywahls.com. And she hosts "The Wahls Protocol Seminar" every August where anyone can learn how to implement the protocol with ease and success. And she's on social media. You can find her on Facebook, Terry Wahls, M.D., Instagram, Dr. Terry Wahls, and on Twitter, @TerryWahls. And you can learn more about her MS clinical trials by reaching out to her team via this email, it's [email protected], and I will paste that link and e-mail on drhedberg.com in case you wanna contact her that way. So, Dr. Wahls, welcome to the show.

Dr. Wahls: Hey. Thank you so much for having me.

Dr. Hedberg: Great. So, just for the people out there who don't really know your story, can you tell us a little bit about what you went through and your MS story?

Dr. Wahls: Sure. So, I'm an academic internal medicine doc, very conventionally trained and conventionally practicing, being very skeptical of diets, supplements, complementary and alternative medicine. But God has a way of teaching us, so in 2000, I was diagnosed with relapsing-remitting multiple sclerosis on the basis of a history of dim vision 13 years earlier, and a new problem with my left leg. I had lesions in my spinal cord. So, I knew I wanted to see the best people in the country, take the newest drugs, and so I went to the Cleveland Clinic and saw their best people, took the newest drugs, and steadily declined. I'd had one relapse in the next year involving my right hand. And I continued to gradually decline.

By 2003, I had declined enough that I now needed a tilt-recline wheelchair. I took Mitoxantrone. I adopted, yeah, actually the year earlier, the paleo diet after being a vegetarian for 20 years, but as I had already mentioned, I did continue to decline and was in the wheelchair, took Mitoxantrone, continued to decline, then took Tysabri, continued to decline, then was placed on CellCept. And at that point, in 2004, it's quite clear to me that I'm likely to become bedridden, quite possibly demented, and quite possibly suffer from intractable pain related to poorly controlled trigeminal neuralgia.

And so, I start reading the basic science again, and I began experimenting using a variety of supplements targeting my mitochondria. And what I discovered is that my fatigue is somewhat less, the speed of my decline is slowed, and I'm really immensely grateful because now my docs have told me I have secondary progressive MS, that there's no more spontaneous recoveries, and so I'm grateful just to slow my decline.

Now, the summer of '07, I'm so weak I cannot sit up anymore. I have a zero gravity chair, where my knees are higher than my nose. A staff, resident clinic's there. I work in the Institutional Review Board reviewing research protocols that way. And I have another chair at home.