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Playwright Jeremy O. Harris
June 27, 2023 19:37 - 45 minutes - 42.4 MBThe award-winning playwright of Slave Play helped bring Lorraine Hansberry's The Sign in Sidney Brustein's Window to Broadway. "This play is telling us, in every scene, that no matter how much capitalism corrupts the world of our politics, we cannot lose our ideals," Harris says. "We cannot stop fighting." Maureen Corrigan reviews two roadtrip novels: Richard Ford's Be Mine and Lorrie Moore's I Am Homeless If This Is Not My Home. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com...
Laura Dern
June 26, 2023 19:44 - 44 minutes - 41 MBActor Laura Dern and her mother Diane Ladd have always shared a profession. But when Ladd was diagnosed with lung disease, the two started sharing so much more. Their new book is Honey, Baby, Mine. Dern talks with Terry Gross about growing up with actor parents, encountering predatory behavior in Hollywood, and accessing rage for some of her hot-headed roles. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Best Of: The Shakur Family Legacy / Birder Christian Cooper
June 24, 2023 12:56 - 47 minutes - 43.6 MBTupac Shakur — who was killed at 25 in 1996 — would have turned 52 this year. His mother, Afeni Shakur, was an activist and a central figure in the Black Panthers. Author and historian Santi Elijah Holley's new book, An Amerikan Family, follows the Shakur family tree and their work in the Black Liberation Movement. Ken Tucker reviews Janelle Monáe's new album, The Age of Pleasure. Christian Cooper was birdwatching in Central Park in 2020 when a white woman falsely accused him of threatening...
Remembering Daniel Ellsberg, Who Leaked Pentagon Papers
June 23, 2023 19:00 - 45 minutes - 41.8 MBWe remember Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers to the press in 1971, in hopes they would help end the Vietnam War. He died last week at the age of 92. We'll listen to our 2017 interview with him. "I identify more with Chelsea Manning and with Edward Snowden than with any other people on earth," he told Dave Davies. "We all faced the same question which is, who will put this information out if I don't?" Also New York Times correspondent Charlie Savage shares a story about Ellsberg...
Classroom Culture Wars & Teacher Burnout
June 22, 2023 18:32 - 45 minutes - 41.5 MBWashington Post reporter Hannah Natanson explains how the debates over teaching race, racism, gender identity and sexuality have put pressure on teachers who were already overworked and underpaid. Kevin Whitehead reviews composer and saxophonist Henry Threadgill's new album and book. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Remembering Legendary Editor Robert Gottlieb
June 21, 2023 20:09 - 46 minutes - 42.6 MBGottlieb, who died last week at age 92, edited Joseph Heller, Toni Morrison, John le Carré and, for more than 50 years, Robert Caro. He went on to become editor of The New Yorker. We'll listen to our recent interview with Gottlieb, and we'll hear some of our interview recorded in 2000 with Gottlieb and musical theater expert Robert Kimball. They co-authored a book on some of the best lyricists of the last century. Book critic Maureen Corrigan reviews Brandon Taylor's, The Late Americans, and...
The Countdown To End WWII
June 20, 2023 18:59 - 45 minutes - 41.8 MBAuthor Evan Thomas tells the story of American leaders wrestling with the terrifying dilemmas of nuclear weapons and of determined Japanese leaders confronting the humiliating prospect of defeat. His book is Road to Surrender: Three Men and the Countdown to the End of World War II. John Powers reviews the novel Kairos by Jenny Erpenbeck. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Celebrating America's Black Working Class
June 19, 2023 17:00 - 45 minutes - 42.4 MBIn Black Folk, Award-winning historian Blair LM Kelley portrays generations of Black workers — Pullman porters, domestic laborers, USPS employees, COVID-19 essential workers — whose work has been vital to the nation's prosperity. Ken Tucker reviews Janelle Monáe's new album, The Age of Pleasure. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Best Of: Writer Kwame Alexander / Chef Lidia Bastianich
June 17, 2023 12:06 - 47 minutes - 43.8 MBKwame Alexander's new memoir is Why Fathers Cry at Night. It started as a book of love poems, but ended up being a book of essays and poems about falling in love, the end of his two marriages, raising two children. He is best known for his children's books, including The Undefeated, which won the Caldecott Medal. Also, we'll hear from chef Lidia Bastianich. She's won James Beard Awards, hosted a long-running TV series, and written cookbooks. She'll talk about how she built her career after ...
John Mellencamp
June 16, 2023 06:00 - 47 minutes - 43.8 MBWe're revisiting Terry Gross's 2009 interview with musician John Mellencamp. He's got a new album called Orpheus Descending out this month. Mellencamp's big hits in the 1980s included "Jack and Diane" and "Small Town." Film critic Justin Chang reviews Wes Anderson's new movie, Asteroid City, and David Bianculli reviews the new season of the Netflix anthology series Black Mirror. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Could Artificial Intelligence Destroy Humanity?
June 15, 2023 19:09 - 46 minutes - 43 MBArtificial intelligence experts recently signed an open letter warning that A.I. could destroy humanity. New York Times technology reporter Cade Metz explains why we are at a turning point with this technology. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
The Shakur Family Legacy, Tupac & Beyond
June 14, 2023 19:38 - 46 minutes - 42.6 MBTupac Shakur — who was killed at 25 in 1996 — would have turned 52 this year. His mother, Afeni Shakur, was an activist and a central figure in the Black Panthers. Author and historian Santi Elijah Holley's new book, An Amerikan Family, follows the Shakur family tree and their work in the Black Liberation Movement. John Powers reviews the final season of the British detective series Endeavour. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
How The Catholic Church Profited From Slavery
June 13, 2023 22:03 - 45 minutes - 42.1 MB"You don't hear about enslaved people at Mass or in Sunday school," says author Rachel Swarns. Her new book tells the story of 272 enslaved people sold in 1838 to help save what is now Georgetown University. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Christian Cooper On Life As A Black Birder
June 12, 2023 19:15 - 46 minutes - 42.7 MBCooper was birdwatching in Central Park in 2020 when a white woman falsely accused him of threatening her. The video went viral. His memoir, Better Living Through Birding, chronicles life as a Black birder, gay activist and Marvel comic book writer and editor. Cooper now hosts a National Geographic birdwatching show. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Best Of: 'Succession' Creator Jesse Armstrong / Actor Elliot Page
June 10, 2023 12:00 - 48 minutes - 44.1 MBSuccession creator, showrunner and head writer, Jesse Armstrong has been reluctant to reveal much about creating the characters, their motivations and plotlines in the past — but now that the series is over, he's ready to talk. Also with us is executive producer Frank Rich, who was instrumental in getting the series made. Maureen Corrigan recommends two new suspense novels that overturn the age-old "woman-in-trouble" plot: My Murder and Beware the Woman. Also, we'll hear from actor Elliot ...
Remembering '60s Pop Songwriter Cynthia Weil
June 09, 2023 18:00 - 46 minutes - 42.8 MBSongwriter Cynthia Weil, along with her writing partner and husband Barry Mann, wrote the 1960s hits You've Lost that Loving Feeling, Uptown, On Broadway, and We've Got to Get Out of This Place. We'll listen to our 2000 archival interview with them. She died last week at 82. Also, film critic Justin Chang reviews Past Lives. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Parkland Survivor & March For Our Lives Co-Founder David Hogg
June 08, 2023 19:28 - 44 minutes - 41.3 MBOn Feb. 14, 2018, David Hogg was in his AP Environmental Sciences class at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., when he heard gunshots. It was the beginning of one of the deadliest school shootings in American history. 17 people were murdered. Hogg is a co-founder of the youth-led gun reform movement March for Our Lives. He talks about advocacy, finding common ground with opponents and the importance of making time for joy amid the pain. Also, Ken Tucker reviews new album...
Elliot Page
June 07, 2023 19:17 - 44 minutes - 40.6 MBFor much of his life, the Canadian actor (Juno, X-men, The Umbrella Academy) experienced gender dysphoria that made him extremely uncomfortable in his own body. "It's like a constant noise," he says. His new memoir is called Pageboy. Maureen Corrigan reviews two suspense novels: My Murder by Katie Williams and Beware the Woman by Megan Abbott. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
The SCOTUS Conservative 'Supermajority'
June 06, 2023 18:25 - 45 minutes - 42 MBConstitutional lawyer and Brennan Center for Justice President Michael Waldman says there's a growing divide between the electorate and the Supreme Court: "the country is moving in one direction ... the Court is moving fast in another direction." His book is The Supermajority. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
'Succession' Creator Jesse Armstrong & Exec. Producer Frank Rich
June 05, 2023 18:17 - 52 minutes - 49.4 MBThe much-anticipated series finale of HBO's Succession answered one big question — who would succeed media mogul patriarch Logan Roy — but we still have more: Was Kendall going to jump into the river? Why did we keep seeing Logan in the bathroom? Why was the presidential election left unresolved? Creator Jesse Armstrong and executive producer Frank Rich answer all in this wide-ranging interview. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Best Of: Clarence Thomas' Rise To Power / The Rise In Allergies
June 03, 2023 15:31 - 48 minutes - 44.1 MBAs controversy swirls around revelations of gifts to Justice Clarence Thomas, we'll speak with award-winning filmmaker Michael Kirk. His PBS/FRONTLINE documentary is Clarence and Ginni Thomas: Politics, Power and the Supreme Court. Jazz critic Kevin Whitehead reviews Arturo O'Farrill's new album, Legacies. Also, we talk with medical anthropologist Theresa MacPhail about allergies. If it seems like your seasonal allergies are getting worse over time, you're probably not wrong. Allergies hav...
MMA Fighting, Memory Loss and Identity
June 02, 2023 15:45 - 46 minutes - 42.6 MBWriter John Vercher trained in mixed martial arts as a young man. His novel, After the Lights Go Out, centers on a veteran MMA fighter who is experiencing memory loss, severe mood swings and tinnitus. The book is also about the fighter's biracial identity. TV critic David Bianculli reviews the new PBS American Masters documentary, Little Richard: King and Queen of Rock 'n' Roll. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Kwame Alexander On 'Why Fathers Cry'
June 01, 2023 19:20 - 46 minutes - 42.6 MBKwame Alexander's new book, Why Fathers Cry At Night, started as a book of love poems, but ended up being a book of essays and poems about falling in love, the end of his two marriages, raising two children and one of them leaving home and cutting ties. We'll talk about that, and about being a son of a Baptist minister. Alexander is best known for his children's books, including The Undefeated and the Newberry Medal-winning book The Crossover, which has been adapted into a Disney+ series, on ...
Clarence & Ginni Thomas' Path To Power
May 31, 2023 20:39 - 45 minutes - 41.7 MBAs controversy swirls around Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife Ginni over financial benefits they received for years from a Texas billionaire, we look at the formative influences on the Washington power couple. Filmmaker Michael Kirk's FRONTLINE PBS documentary examines Clarence Thomas's early years, where he endured poverty, hardship and discrimination in the Jim Crow South. After a period as a Black Power activist in college, he began to criticize affirmative action and bui...
Why Our Allergies Are Getting Worse
May 30, 2023 18:22 - 45 minutes - 41.3 MBFrom excessive hygiene to low-fiber diets, author Theresa MacPhail explores the deep-rooted causes of rising allergy rates in her new book Allergic: Our Irritated Bodies in a Changing World. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Best Of: Julia Louis-Dreyfus / Wanda Sykes
May 30, 2023 17:02 - 48 minutes - 44.6 MBJulia Louis Dreyfus stars in the new film, You Hurt My Feelings. She also has a podcast called Wiser Than Me, where she asks older women to share their experiences and life lessons. She talks about both projects with Dave Davies. Also, we hear from Wanda Sykes. In her new Netflix comedy special, she talks about raising teenagers with her French wife, and what it's like to live in the world after a pandemic, an insurrection, and George Floyd. David Bianculli reviews a new documentary about...
Jazz Singer Samara Joy In Concert
May 29, 2023 18:00 - 46 minutes - 42.2 MBSamara Joy is the second jazz performer in Grammy history to win "Best New Artist." The 23-year-old also won for "Best Jazz Album." She joined us for a concert and conversation about growing up in a family of gospel singers and her musical influences. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Mary Tyler Moore
May 26, 2023 15:30 - 46 minutes - 42.5 MBMoore is the subject of a new HBO (MAX) documentary that explores her rise in Hollywood — from her 1970s hit The Mary Tyler Moore Show, which inspired a generation of single professional women, to her 1960s breakout role on The Dick Van Dyke Show. She spoke with Terry Gross in 1995. Also, we remember novelist, essayist and literary critic Martin Amis, who died last week at 73. Film critic Justin Chang reviews the new live-action remake of The Little Mermaid. Learn more about sponsor mess...
The Hollywood Writers Strike & The Future Of TV
May 25, 2023 19:06 - 44 minutes - 40.6 MBNew York Times media reporter John Koblin discusses the Hollywood writers' strike — and how streaming has upended every element of TV and film production, leading to deteriorating working conditions. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Chef Lidia Bastianich
May 24, 2023 20:12 - 44 minutes - 41 MBJames Beard Award-winning chef Lidia Bastianich fled the Italian peninsula of Istria, as a child, after it was handed over to Communist Yugoslavia following WWII. She spoke with Terry Gross about her family's journey to America, her first TV dinner, and how food became her "connector." Her new PBS show is Lidia Celebrates America. Lloyd Schwartz reviews a CD set of opera singer Renée Fleming. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Julia Louis-Dreyfus
May 23, 2023 19:10 - 46 minutes - 42.6 MBLouis-Dreyfus stars in the new film You Hurt My Feelings. She spoke with Dave Davies about her first big laugh as a kid, receiving the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor, and her new podcast, Wiser Than Me. Also, John Powers reviews the British crime series Happy Valley, now available in the U.S. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Wanda Sykes Returns
May 22, 2023 19:25 - 45 minutes - 42.4 MBLegendary comic Wanda Sykes spoke with Tonya Mosley about the WGA strike, portraying Moms Mabley in the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, and raising white kids as a Black mom. Her new Netflix special is I Am an Entertainer. Also, David Bianculli reviews a new HBO documentary about Mary Tyler Moore, and book critic Maureen Corrigan reviews Goodnight, Irene by Luis Alberto Urrea. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Best Of: Joel Edgerton / Samantha Irby
May 20, 2023 12:10 - 48 minutes - 44.1 MBJoel Edgerton stars as a horticulturist with a secret past as a white nationalist in Paul Schrader's Master Gardener. He spoke with Terry Gross about the film and how his small role in Star Wars changed his career. TV critic David Bianculli reviews the new Netflix docuseries Working, hosted by President Barack Obama. Humorist and TV writer Samantha Irby spoke with Tonya Mosley about her new book of essays, Quietly Hostile. She says it's like a survival guide, of sorts. Learn more about sp...
Donna Summer
May 19, 2023 16:00 - 46 minutes - 42.7 MBThe Queen of Disco's hits of the 1970s and early '80s included "Hot Stuff," "Last Dance," "Heaven Knows," "On the Radio," "Bad Girls," and "She Works Hard for the Money." She had three consecutive No. 1 platinum albums, and 11 gold albums. She's now the subject of a new HBO documentary, titled Love to Love You: Donna Summer. She died in 2012. Originally broadcast in 2003. Also, we remember Chris Strachwitz, the founder of Arhoolie records. He devoted his life to tracking down regional musi...
Sara Bareilles
May 18, 2023 18:58 - 46 minutes - 42.9 MBWhen Sara Bareilles got the role of the Baker's Wife in Sondheim's Into the Woods, she thought she was signing up for a two-week limited run. But the show became a sensation, and is now a Grammy award-winning Broadway musical with six Tony nominations. She spoke with Ann Marie Baldonado about the show, writing the music for Waitress, and poking fun at the music industry in the series Girls5eva. Also, Kevin Whitehead reviews Arturo O'Farrill's album Legacies. Learn more about sponsor messag...
How a Secretive, Extremist Group Radicalized The American Right
May 17, 2023 18:25 - 47 minutes - 43.1 MBMatthew Dallek says the John Birch Society, which was active from the late '50s through the early '70s, propelled today's extremist takeover of the American right. His new book is Birchers. John Powers reviews the award-winning French crime drama The Night of the 12th. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Humorist Samantha Irby
May 16, 2023 18:43 - 45 minutes - 42.4 MBHumorist and TV writer Samantha Irby is not afraid to tell you about her bowel movements, her mental health struggles or about the "glamorous hoarding" in her house. She's made a career out of writing about these things, and spinning them into comedy. She spoke with Tonya Mosley about her new book, Quietly Hostile. Also, David Bianculli reviews the new Netflix docuseries Working, hosted by Barack Obama. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Actor Joel Edgerton
May 15, 2023 19:18 - 46 minutes - 43.1 MBEdgerton stars as a horticulturist with a secret past as a white nationalist in Master Gardener. We talk about what he learned from director Paul Schrader, his small role in Star Wars: Revenge of the Clones, and working with his brother, who is a stunt man. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Best Of: Living With Long COVID / How Parking Explains The World
May 13, 2023 12:01 - 48 minutes - 44.4 MBLong COVID leaves millions of people with impaired brain function, and yet the medical establishment has a shortage of answers. Neuropsychologist James Jackson says many people with long COVID find they struggle to remember things, perform basic tasks and solve problems – often leading to a loss of employment, income, and important relationships. Jackson's new book is a practical guide for long COVID patients and their families. And, it's been 50 years since Al Green released his album Call ...
Everything But The Girl Singer-Songwriter Tracey Thorn
May 12, 2023 17:20 - 45 minutes - 42 MBThe married British duo Tracey Thorn and Ben Watt — aka Everything but the Girl — have their first album in 24 years. Ken Tucker reviews Fuse, then we listen back to a 2018 interview with Thorn. Also, Justin Chang reviews the movie BlackBerry. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
The Significance Of Jan. 6 Seditious Conspiracy Convictions
May 11, 2023 20:14 - 43 minutes - 39.8 MBNew York Times journalist Alan Feuer talks about the conviction of the leaders of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, and what that means for ongoing Jan. 6th-related inquiries. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
A 'Practical Guide' For People With Long COVID
May 10, 2023 17:56 - 45 minutes - 41.4 MBAn estimated 200 million people worldwide have long COVID. Dave Davies interviews neuro-psychologist James Jackson about the cognitive impairment, social isolation, and mental health issues that the long COVID patient population experiences. His book is Clearing the Fog. Maureen Corrigan reviews the book Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma, by Claire Dederer. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
How Parking Explains The World
May 09, 2023 19:14 - 46 minutes - 42.7 MBAuthor Henry Grabar says parking codes, parking lots and garages have shaped the landscape of cities and suburbs, and limited the creation of affordable housing. His book is Paved Paradise. TV critic David Bianculli reviews Pete Davidson's semi-autobiographical series on Peacock, Bupkis. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
One Senator's Crusade To Expose CIA/FBI Crimes And Cover-Ups
May 08, 2023 19:02 - 44 minutes - 41.4 MBPulitzer Prize-winning journalist James Risen tells the story of Senator Frank Church, who exposed crimes and cover-ups of the CIA and the FBI nearly 50 years ago. Risen says the Church hearings, which revealed CIA assassination plots, led to congressional oversight of intelligence agencies. Risen's book is The Last Honest Man. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
Best Of: Alex Auder's Bohemian Childhood / James Marsden On 'Jury Duty'
May 06, 2023 12:00 - 49 minutes - 44.9 MBAlexandra Auder's mother, Viva, was one of Andy Warhol's muses. Auder's memoir, Don't Call Me Home, describes her early life in the Chelsea Hotel, in a world of underground artists. We talk about her unconventional childhood and parenting her own kids. Maureen Corrigan reviews Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma, by Claire Dederer In the experimental show Jury Duty on Amazon Freevee, actors play oddballs doing their civic duty. The twist? One juror, Ronald, is a real guy who doesn't know it's all fak...
New York Dolls Frontman David Johansen
May 05, 2023 15:11 - 44 minutes - 41 MBJohansen was a founding member and frontman for the early '70s glam band The New York Dolls – the band that helped set the stage for the punk movement. Later, Johansen created the lounge-lizard persona Buster Poindexter. He's the subject of the new documentary Personality Crisis: One Night Only, co-directed by Martin Scorsese and David Tedeschi. Johansen spoke with Terry Gross in 2004. Justin Chang reviews the film The Eight Mountains. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoic...
The Child Labor Crisis In America
May 04, 2023 20:00 - 46 minutes - 42.3 MBA series of investigative reports over the last year has revealed that underage children, most of them migrants from Central America, are working some of the most dangerous jobs in our country — from construction sites to slaughterhouses to factories — operating dangerous equipment. States like Iowa, Missouri, and Ohio are considering rollbacks on child labor protections, allowing minors, some as young as 14, to work longer hours and night shifts. Tonya Mosley spoke with New York Times invest...
Alexandra Auder, Daughter Of Warhol Muse Viva
May 03, 2023 18:11 - 46 minutes - 42.2 MBAlexandra Auder's mother, Viva, was one of Andy Warhol's muses. Auder's memoir, Don't Call Me Home, describes her early life in the Chelsea Hotel, in a world of underground artists. We talk about her unconventional childhood and parenting her own kids. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
James Marsden On 'Jury Duty'
May 02, 2023 18:28 - 46 minutes - 42.5 MBIn the experimental show 'Jury Duty' on Amazon Freevee, actors play oddballs doing their civic duty. The twist? One juror, Ronald, is a real guy who doesn't know it's all fake. Actor James Marsden plays a satirical version of himself. We talk with Marsden about the challenges of filming this unorthodox show. Also, John Powers reviews the Romanian film R.M.N. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
How South Africa Narrowly Avoided Civil War
May 01, 2023 20:02 - 46 minutes - 43.4 MBJournalist Justice Malala explains how Nelson Mandela and F. W. de Klerk kept the country on a path to peace after the 1993 assassination of Chris Hani. His book is The Plot to Save South Africa. Also, David Bianculli reviews the five part HBO series White House Plumbers, a new spin on a Watergate break-in drama. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy