Marcus and Owen interview Deena Shelton, PhD and Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC-S). Deena is a lifelong counselor, educator, and self-labeled nerd who has worked at a very high level across a variety of industries, including director positions at multiple non-profits (and a current seat on Axon Collective's Board of Directors). Together the three of us explore applications of psychology and therapy in an industry that largely shuns professional counseling. Learn why an understanding of how our brains work is not optional if you want to work in entrepreneurship, and how to learn mindsight, empathy, and integration form a foundation for mental health.


We also talk about how the intentionality of taking breaks is as important (if not more so) than the break itself, how meaning-making can either help or hinder our entrepreneurial self-image, and how therapy ends up as a net gain for you and your business in both time and money.


Don't miss what we consider to be one of the most important and useful episodes we've produced yet. We also want to invite anyone who thinks they may be struggling with burnout to reach out to us - you don't have to be in this alone.


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