“Illusionists deny that experiences have phenomenal properties and focus on explaining why they seem to have them”


In part 1 of this 2 part interview Jay discusses what exactly is meant by this statement from renowned philosopher of mind and author Keith Frankish.


What part of our conscious experience, if any, is real and demands an explanation? Does the idea of a philosophical zombie make any sense? Are we ready to throw out all science and understanding while we forever chase down an illusion? Are we hopelessly separated from physical reality by an indescribable philosophical barrier... or have we all just been stirred into an incredible effect of ineffable private experiences by a universe which works much like a magician convincing an audience of the reality of levitation?


Get ready for a wild ride through Jay's resistance, puzzlement, partial understanding, and finally full digestion of the argument in part 1.


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