Cowards & Thieves dial in from the literal road for a chat with Dylan in anticipation of their album release on Friday the 13th (ch ch ch, ah ah ah...). Chip and Stefan manage to power through some questionable venue Wi-Fi to talk about the band and turning their debut EP into a short film as well as the bird sound at the end of "Layla", if you're an old head if you went to Ozzfest, pop punk cover sets, legal wedding parties, and why "Desperado" is the saddest song ever.


You can preorder Cowards & Thieve's LP, Dedicated to Dead People, on their Big Cartel and also check out their Bandcamp.


Track featured is "Desirous" off of Dedicated to Dead People out May 13th.