The "good vs. evil" battle is an integral part of cybersecurity's origin story. While it’s motivating and energizing, it also comes with language derived from military vocabulary, that brings a certain level of hostility and aggression. 

That’s why, often, the language we use in cybersecurity alienates the very people we’re trying to help. 

In this episode, the kind and compassionate Dr. Jessica Barker joins me for a conversation about the most underrated skill in cybersecurity: empathy. We also touch on using psychology and data to improve cybersecurity awareness and culture, optimism as a confidence builder, and more.

We had a fantastic conversation about the evolution of cybersecurity culture and Jessica's massively influential work on revamping cybersecurity vocabulary, whose impact reaches far beyond industry confines. Blending introspection and actionable insight, we also discuss imposter syndrome, balancing constant evolution with self-compassion, and other essential topics we deeply care about. 

Listen to this episode to discover:

Why the world is actually way better than we perceive it (4:50)Why cybersecurity is about protecting people (14:00)The origins of Jessica's social approach to cybersecurity (19:40)How to strive for improvement without damaging our health (29:20)Dr. Jessica's tips for fighting imposter syndrome (35:50)Why empathy is the most underrated skill in cybersecurity (45:30)