In today's episode, I interview podcast marketer and Star Wars fan Jeremy Enns, whose email newsletter, Creative Wayfinding, is one of the few I read religiously every week.

We go in-depth into the particular format he landed on, an Easter Egg hidden in there, why he'd do it for no money at all, and what a newbie email marketer can do when they're just launching out.

Some quotes from the interview:

"I always welcome new subscribers to the newsletter every week. People want to be..they want to follow something that is popular."

"One of the things I remember hearing around audience growth and engagement is…reward the behavior you want more of, essentially."

"We don’t have to have such high bars for ideas, they don’t have to be some fully formed thing." 

"Even when you don’t have an idea, or your idea is, I don’t have anything to write about, you sit down to write and suddenly something interesting can come from it. "

“You *think* you don’t have anything to write about, you start writing anyway and you’ll land on something that comes out and you’re like, oh, that’s kind of an interesting thought. Your brain realizes sooner or later, oh, we’re doing this, I better come up with ideas."

“It’s way easier to stand out by being different than being better.”

"When you have something that is actually unique and original, the language doesn’t necessarily exist to describe it well."

More about Jeremy:


Jeremy Enns is the founder of Podcast Marketing Academy, the only growth-focused podcast education platform for experienced creators, brands, and marketers looking to build long-term, sustainable audience growth systems.

He loves any sport that involves a frisbee, used to co-host an explicit-rated ice cream podcast, once bicycled across Europe, and will always look back on the day he finally saved up enough money to buy the Millennium Falcon Lego set as one of his proudest achievements.


Connect with Jeremy on Twitter: https://twitter.com/iamjeremyenns 

Sign up for his Creative Wayfinding newsletter: http://jeremyenns.com/newsletter

Check out his podcast marketing course: http://podcastmarketingacademy.com/ 


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