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404 episodes - English - Latest episode: 2 months ago - ★★★★ - 19 ratingsWelcome to the Curious about Screenwriting Podcast where you'll enjoy listening to fascinating film industry guests who share their insights on how you can take your screenwriting career to the next level.
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Fantastic Story Society - Ep 6 - Mark Warren & Wyatt Earp's Miracle on the Mesa
November 12, 2019 17:47 - 1 hour - 111 MBEpisode 6 of The Fantastic Story Society - My Friend, Wyatt Earp (we're not really friends with him, but we want to be) Spinning our fantastic stories toward the Old West, gunfighters, the rustic way of life, Scott and Max bring on author and Wyatt Earp scholar, Mark Warren, to perform a deep deep dive into one of the most famous (if not the most famous) characters from the American western tales. Some of the stories shared on our podcast series are purely speculative, paranormal and comp...
Wine Wednesday - Ep 74 - Halloween Special with Veteran Writer, Jim Hart
November 05, 2019 19:44 - 1 hour - 100 MBGhosts and ghouls! It's our Wine Wednesday Halloween special with the prolific, insightful, consummate storyteller, Jim Hart. Jim owns and operates the leading storyline software, The Hart Chart, which every writer should check out here: www.hartchart.com Jim is also the screenwriter on so many amazing films, one of which is Max's Top Ten favorites, Contact with Jodie Foster. Max and Jim dive in to the importance of delivering an emotional story through character, as well as tell multiple sp...
Wine Wednesday - Ep 73 - How Actors Break Down Scripts
November 05, 2019 16:07 - 56 minutes - 77.8 MBEver wonder what it's like reading a script from an actor's perspective? It's not that different than how a writer SHOULD be reading a script...but more importantly, how a writer should be developing the script. In this 73rd episode of Wine Wednesday, Max and Felicity discuss the ins and outs of breaking scenes and sequences through the mind of the actor. Actors tend to read more scripts than writers, which shouldn't be the case, but so much can be learned from that - a writer can tailor his...
The Fantastic Story Society - Ep 5 - Christopher Saint Booth & The Name of the Devil
November 01, 2019 18:03 - 1 hour - 106 MBEpisode 5 of The Fantastic Story Society - Halloween Special In our Halloween special episode, Max and Scott bring on writer, director, author, documentarist, and all-around rockstar paranormal researcher, Christopher Saint Booth. With over 100 horror films and paranormal documentaries under his belt, Christopher has spent nearly a lifetime investigating the weird, the odd, and the fantastic. We couldn't have considered a better guest for our Halloween special because just about every word...
SYS Episode 297 - The Writers of A Quiet Place Talk All Things 'Haunt'
October 29, 2019 18:44 - 30 minutes - 14.3 MBSYS Episode 297 On this episode of the podcast I talk with A Quiet Place screenwriters Scott Beck and Bryan Woods about how they got started in the business, how they came up with the idea for A Quiet Place, and how their new horror feature, Haunt, got produced.
SYS Episode 296 - A Writing Career Outside of Hollywood with Mark Leidner
October 29, 2019 18:39 - 34 minutes - 15.9 MBSYS Episode 296 On this episode of the podcast I talk with Atlanta based screenwriter Mark Leidner about his career living far from Hollywood and how he's been able to get some of his scripts produced. And then we talk about his new film, Empathy, Inc., a grounded sci-fi / thriller.
JCS - I Made a Short Film, Now WTF Do I Do With It, with Clarissa Jacobson
October 29, 2019 17:41 - 42 minutes - 38.9 MBJust Click Submit with Clarissa Jacobson In this episode, ISA welcomes award-winning filmmaker and author Clarissa Jacobson to the show and website to talk about her book, “I Made a Short Film, Now WTF Do I Do With It?” The book is jam-packed with hard-earned knowledge, tips, and secrets on how to enter film festivals, promote your movie… and SUCCEED! "I Made A Short Film Now WTF Do I Do With It" covers everything from what festivals to submit to, how to maximize your money, secure an i...
IFH 342: Making Money By Self Distributing with Naomi McDougall
October 28, 2019 17:11 - 1 hour - 82.8 MBIFH 342 Today episode is probably one of the most important shows I have released in some time. On the show is filmmaker Naomi McDougall Jones the writer, actress and producer behind the indie film Bite Me, a subversive romantic comedy about a real-life vampire and the IRS agent who audits them, directed by Meredith Edwards. The filmmakers of Bite Me have decided to take a radical approach to distribute their film: they’re doing it themselves. For 3 months, they traveled in an RV around...
SYS Episode 295 - Director Jason Winer & An Ode to Joy with Morgan Freeman
October 28, 2019 16:20 - 21 minutes - 10.2 MBSYS Episode 295 On this episode of the SYS Podcast I interview director Jason Winer about the early days of his career, and how that lead him to directing, and eventually his latest feature, An Ode to Joy, starring Martin Freeman.
SYS 294 - Shawn Ku - From Low-Budget Indie to Nicolas Cage
October 28, 2019 16:12 - 25 minutes - 12 MBSYS Episode 294 This week on the podcast I talk with director Shawn Ku about how he launched his career as a writer/director with a short and low budget feature, and how that has lead him to his latest feature film, A Score To Settle, with Nicolas Cage.
The Fantastic Story Society - Ep 4 - Karl Pfeiffer & The Stanley's Pig-Man
October 28, 2019 15:48 - 1 hour - 122 MBThe writer/director of the popular Amazon TV docu-series, Hellier, Karl Pfeiffer joins Society co-hosts, Max Timm and Scott Markus to talk all things fantastic. Karl's documentary, Hellier, launched on Amazon in 2019 and there is a second season coming out on Amazon Prime before the end of 2019. The series documents the accounts of small, goblin-like creatures that supposedly invaded a small Kentucky mountain town. It's absolutely worth your time to watch the 5-episode first season, especial...
IFH 337: Directing 70+ Feature Films & Making Money with Mike Feifer
October 18, 2019 15:22 - 2 hours - 118 MBI have a treat for the tribe today. In this episode, I speak to prolific film producer/writer/director Mike Feifer. Mike has directed over 70 films and produced over 100 feature films. His approach to filmmaking is true indie film hustle. He write/produces and directs 7-10 feature films a year for multple production companies. Michael Feifer grew up in a show business family. His father was Head of Television Research for Twentieth Century Fox in the late 60’s and 70’s. In fact, when M...
The Fantastic Story Society - Ep 2 - Mike Huberty & The Woman in Black
October 17, 2019 17:06 - 1 hour - 121 MBIn this second installment of The Fantastic Story Society, we welcome a new member to the group - Mike Huberty. Long-time ghost tour guide and veteran (he owns and operates tours throughout the Midwest, including one in Max Timm's hometown of Lake Geneva, WI), Mike joins co-hosts Max Timm and Scott Markus as they dive deep into some of the fantastic stories of Mike's ghost tour business. Mike also is a member of the oh-so-fun and popular band, Sunspot, writing and performing music that is in...
BPS 052: Story$elling Your Screenplay with Heather Hale
October 09, 2019 22:50 - 1 hour - 71.4 MBToday on the show we have returning champion Heather Hale. Heather Hale’s new book Story Selling: How to Develop, Market, and Pitch Your Film & TV Projects helps you get your stories out of your head and onto the worldwide stage. From the inspiration and conception of all kinds of creative writing, through the development and refinement of all the elements, to navigating the legal, financial, physical production, distribution and marketing labyrinths of the overlapping businesses of mass me...
BPS051: The Coffee Break Screenwriter with Pilar Alessandra
October 09, 2019 22:46 - 1 hour - 63.3 MBI’ve been trying to get today’s guest on the show for months. Pilar Alessandra is an author, podcaster, and script consultant. She’s the director of the popular writing program “On The Page,” author of “The Coffee Break Screenwriter” and host of the “On the Page Podcast.” Pilar started her career as Senior Story Analyst at DreamWorks SKG. In 2001, she opened the Los Angeles-based On the Page Writers’ Studio dedicated to teaching and consulting with screenwriters and TV writers at all l...
Wine Wednesday Ep 72 - The Importance of the Hook and Simple Ideas
October 07, 2019 15:32 - 58 minutes - 80.6 MBEven if your idea may not be immediately "hook-y" like a Happy Death Day or 40 Year-Old Virgin, your idea can still be simplified so the industry understands what the middle of your story is at its core. It's all about marketing, folks. Yes, you need to develop and execute an entertaining screenplay, but if no one understands your pitch, it's all for naught. So listen in on episode 72 of Wine Wednesday with Max Timm and Felicity Wren for insights, tools, and an all-around fun time. A huge...
Wine Wednesday Ep 71 - Inside the Biz with Lee Jessup
October 07, 2019 15:24 - 1 hour - 86.3 MBThe always amazing and informative Lee Jessup, screenwriting career coach and mentor, joins the Wine Wednesday team again...and the level of education is off the charts. Get your learning caps on as Lee, Max, and Felicity discuss the current events and trends of the Hollywood business and how screenwriters can gain an edge. A huge thanks to our sponsors, Int'l Screenwriters' Association and of course, the wonderful Lee Jessup. Remember, Felicity Wren and Max Timm always have open Q&A du...
Fantastic Story Society - Ep 1 - Jeff Belanger & The Man-Eating Tree
October 07, 2019 01:31 - 1 hour - 113 MBIn our first official episode of The Fantastic Story Society, Max Timm and Scott Markus break out the big guns with their own personal weird, wild, and of course fantastic stories AND they bring on their friend and long-time paranormal researcher, Jeff Belanger. For more than 20 years, Jeff has been exploring ghosts, monsters, history, and legends. He’s the author of more than a dozen books that have been published in six languages, and he’s appeared on PBS, the Travel Channel, History Cha...
The Fantastic Story Society - Pilot
October 07, 2019 01:14 - 53 minutes - 73.9 MBWelcome to The Fantastic Story Society. Within the walls of this super-yet-not-so-secret club, you will find stories of the supernatural, paranormal, and just plain weird. In this pilot episode, co-hosts Max Timm and Scott Markus, each with their special backgrounds in storytelling and paranormal research, you'll be introduced to these two masters of ceremony by way of a few fantastic stories of their own. A shorter introductory pilot episode, Episode Zero, is just the primer for what's to c...
SYS 293 - Turning a Short Into a Feature with Horror Director, Richard Bates
September 25, 2019 17:39 - 23 minutes - 11.1 MBOn this week's episode of the SYS Podcast I talk with writer/director Richard Bates Jr. about his new horror feature, Tone-Deaf, starring Robert Patrick and Amanda Crew. We also talk about the early days of his career and how he turned his short film into his first feature.
SYS 292 - Director Nick Hamm and his DeLorean Project, Driven
September 25, 2019 17:33 - 28 minutes - 13.4 MBIn this episode of the podcast I talk with director Nick Hamm about his latest film, Driven. Driven is a true story based on the events that surrounded John DeLorean and the drug smuggling scandal he was involved in. DRIVEN is in theaters and on digital/demand as of August 16, 2019.
ISA Live - Reading of Grand Prize Winning Short - TRMS - Hollywood 2019
September 14, 2019 16:08 - 13 minutes - 18.6 MBAs part of our ongoing, ISA series podcast that involves a full-cast reading of winning short scripts from our various contests, we are proud to present The Table Read My Screenplay 2019 Hollywood Grand Prize winning short script, A LADY OF VASSAR by Anthony Cortez Fernandez. Logline: Amid the cold and harsh woodlands of the northeast, a pious woman struggles to quell her ill-wishes against a selfish and insecure husband. The roles of Ruth will be played by Lauren Holiday - https://www...
Wine Wednesday Ep 70 - Your Voice and How It Informs Your Characters
September 05, 2019 21:20 - 52 minutes - 48.5 MBVoice can be defined in so many different ways, but Felicity and Max talk about what they believe voice is and why. Join in on the conversation and if you're listening at home...grab a glass of yummy vino (if you're into that kind of thing) and sit back, relax, and laugh at Max and Felicity's ridiculousness...and yet quite informing live broadcast. A huge thanks to our sponsors, The Story Farm and The Shift Creative Fund. If you're looking to develop multiple projects over a short period o...
Wine Wednesday Ep 69 - Our Favorite Half-Hour Comedies
September 05, 2019 21:09 - 46 minutes - 43.2 MBHalf-hour comedies are all the rage! Whether it's multi-camera, or a half-hour Hulu comedy, the sit-coms are back and better than ever. Felicity and Max spend this hour on discussing their favorites, past and present, and why...all while sipping back some wine and answering questions live on Facebook. A big thanks to the Nickelodeon Writing Program for sponsoring! Enjoy, and don't forget... Felicity Wren and Max Timm always have open Q&A during every Facebook Live broadcast, so you shoul...
SYS 290: Sustaining A Career Outside of Los Angeles with Writer/Director, Carl Barnes
September 04, 2019 16:59 - 39 minutes - 18.2 MBSYS Episode 290: In this week's episode of the SYS Podcast I talk with writer/director (and actor) Cal Barnes about his move from Oregon to Los Angeles, what he did when he arrived, and how he's been able to get himself into a position to write and direct a feature film.
IFH 334: How to Direct a Sex Scene with John Bucher
September 04, 2019 15:34 - 20 minutes - 19.2 MBWe have a special episode today. I wanted to discuss a topic that NEVER gets discussed until minutes before the cameras begin to roll, shooting sex scenes. Loving making or sex scenes are like walking through a field of landmines. I’ve shot these kinds of scenes in my life and it’s just uncomfortable for everyone on set. Today we have a guest who literally wrote a book on the subject, John Bucher. He is the author of six books including the best-selling Storytelling for Virtual Reality, n...
IFH 333: Inside the World of Cooke Optics with Les Zella
September 04, 2019 15:28 - 59 minutes - 55.1 MBToday on the show we have the chairman of the legendary Cooke Optics empire. For over 100 years, Cooke has been at the centre of the filmmaking business. We’ve been listening to the community of which we are a part. We lead by introducing new products such as /i Technology, and we remember our success is built on a simple idea – do what the filmmaker needs. From Cooke Optics website: Our factory in Leicester, England has generations from the same family working side by side. That experi...
BPS 050: The Alchemy of Storytelling with John Bucher
September 04, 2019 15:22 - 1 hour - 75 MBBulletproof Screenplay Episode 50: We made it to 50 EPISODES! So grateful the show has taken off. Thanks for all the support! Today on the show we have storytelling guru John Bucher, who is a renowned strategist, communicator, and cultural mythologist based out of Hollywood, California. Disruptor named him one of the top 25 influencers in Virtual Reality in 2018. “John Bucher is an influencer. He’s one of our most prolific contributors.” — HBO He is the author of six books includi...
BPS 049: Hollywood Screenwriting with Screenwriter John August
September 04, 2019 15:15 - 1 hour - 60 MBBulletproof Screenwriting Episode 49: Today on the show we have Hollywood screenwriter, director, producer, podcaster and novelist John August. He is known for writing the hit Hollywood films Go, Charlie’s Angels, Charlie’s Angels: Full Throttle, Big Fish, Charlie, and the Chocolate Factory and Frankenweenie, the Disney live-action adaptation of Aladdin and the novel Arlo Finch in the Valley of Fire. Here are some of the trailers of his work. He hosts the popular screenwriting podcast Sc...
The Imaginarium Convention, Celebrating Writers w/ Creator, Stephen Zimmer
August 15, 2019 21:25 - 19 minutes - 18 MBIn this episode of “Just Click Submit,” the ISA’s Scott Markus speaks with Stephen Zimmer, the creator of Louisville’s Imaginarium Convention, a festival celebrating writers and all things pop culture. The Imaginarium Convention made its debut in 2014 with a central focus on providing creative writers and other creative talents educational, networking, professional, and mentoring opportunities. In 2019, The Writer Magazine named the Imaginarium Convention the best writing conference in Ken...
Interview with Aaron Harvey, Building A Career Outside of Hollywood
August 12, 2019 15:28 - 34 minutes - 16.2 MBEpisode 288 In this episode of the SYS Podcast I talk with screenwriter Aaron Harvey about his career and how he got his new film, Into The Ashes, into production. Like many aspiring screenwriters, Aaron grew up far from Hollywood and without any industry connections. In the interview he goes through his journey moving to LA and building a career for himself.
Interview with Indie Drama Director/Writer/Actor, Christopher Bradley
August 12, 2019 15:22 - 1 hour - 30.1 MBEpisode 287 This week on the podcast I talk with writer/director/actor Christopher Bradley about his new indie drama, The Trigger, which he shot in Arizona. We talk through his process making this film as well as his career and what brought him to this point.
Interview with Horror Writer/Director, Jérôme Cohen-Olivar
August 12, 2019 15:15 - 22 minutes - 10.4 MBEpisode 286 This week on the SYS Podcast episode I talk with Writer/Director Jérôme Cohen-Olivar about his early days growing up in Morocco and how that lead him to a career writing and directing, including his latest horror feature film, The 16th Episode.
Interview with Steve Longi and His Hacksaw Ridge
August 12, 2019 15:09 - 41 minutes - 19.3 MBEpisode 285 This week on the podcast I talk with producer Steve Longi about his process for finding, developing, and producing films. Specifically we talk about Hacksaw Ridge (Mel Gibson) and how that project came together after many years.
IFH 332: Is Artificial Intelligence Putting Screenwriters Out of Work?
July 24, 2019 01:07 - 53 minutes - 49.5 MBIs Artificial Intelligence Putting Screenwriters Out of Work? with Andrew Kortschak Today on the show we have filmmaker Andrew Kortschak. In today’s digital age, where ‘releasing’ a film involves putting it on Vimeo, new filmmakers often struggle to rise above the noise and break into the exclusive industry. Andrew has a unique approach to this problem and in fact joined forces with a Silicon Valley venture capitalist to build End Cue like a tech startup: via a bi-coastal incubator mod...
BPS 48: Writing Scripts That's Don't Get Shot
July 24, 2019 00:59 - 1 hour - 69.6 MBToday on the show we have screenwriters David and Diamond and David Weissman. Their credits include studios movies like Family Man, Evolution, Old Dogs and When in Rome. We discuss their adventures in the screenwriting trade, working with studios and their new book Bulletproof: Writing Scripts that Don’t Get Shot Down. The team of Diamond and Weissman have been writing movies and mentoring filmmakers for decades. In this practical guide, they take the aspiring writer by the hand and guide...
Episode 68 - Characters We Love and Why
July 24, 2019 00:52 - 1 hour - 59.1 MBWhy do we have favorite characters from movies and TV? What makes them our favorite? What makes them memorable? On this episode of Wine Wednesday, sponsored by John Truby and Steele Wines, Felicity and Max share their favorite characters and what makes them...favorite. Join in. Grab a glass of vino. And have a little fun with Facebook Live and the ISA. A huge thanks to our sponsors, The Story Farm and Steele Wines. If you're looking to develop multiple projects over a short period of time,...
BPS 047: What Makes a Great Screenplay with Stephen Follows
July 15, 2019 16:30 - 1 hour - 67.9 MBBPS 047: What Makes a Great Screenplay with Stephen Follows What Makes a Great Screenplay with Stephen Follows What if someone could read over 12,000 scripts that were read by professional script readers, who gave the scripts an overall score as well as scores for specific factors including plot, dialogue, characterization, theme, and voice. Then looked for connections and correlations to discover what professional script readers think a good screenplay looks like. Well, today on the s...
IFH 325: What Negative Filmmaking Story Are You Telling Yourself?
July 15, 2019 16:24 - 24 minutes - 22.3 MBIFH Episode 325: What Negative Filmmaking Story Are You Telling Yourself? We all tell ourselves negative stories. I’m not good enough. I can’t write that. I can’t direct a feature film. These stories are killing us day in and day out. It took me 20+ years to finally change the story I was telling myself about being able to direct a feature film. When I finally changed that negative story I was able to make This is Meg, self-distributed it and even sold the film to Hulu and overseas. On...
IFH 323: Creating Emotional Storytelling in the Edit with Sven Pape
July 15, 2019 16:02 - 1 hour - 66 MBIFH 323: Creating Emotional Storytelling in the Edit with Sven Pape Creating Emotional Storytelling in the Edit with Sven Pape Today on the show we Sven Pape. Sven is an A.C.E. Award-nominated editor who cut for James Cameron, Mark Weber, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, and James Franco. We get into the weeds on editing, storytelling, the business of editing and much more. Oh, did I mention Sven worked with James Cameron for three years? We definitely go into that. Sven Pape’s YouTube Channel Thi...
Episode 67 - How To Evoke Emotion In Your Audience
July 15, 2019 15:55 - 55 minutes - 51.1 MBWhy do we do what we do? As writers, our primary objective is to instil some kind of emotion in the audience regardless of the medium. If you're writing a short film, that short story needs to be packed with a message from start to finish. If you're writing a TV series, little by little that show has to provide a source of entertainment over a long period of time. For a feature film, it's just as pressurized as a short film, only it's technically more difficult because you're relying on the ...
BPS 046: Confessions of a Million Dollar Screenwriter with Diane Drake
June 20, 2019 16:38 - 1 hour - 74.5 MBBulletproof Screenwriting Episode 46: Today on the show we have million dollar screenwriter Diane Drake. Her produced original scripts include ONLY YOU, starring Robert Downey, Jr. and Marisa Tomei, and WHAT WOMEN WANT, starring Mel Gibson. Her original script for ONLY YOU sold for $1 million, and WHAT WOMEN WANT is the second highest grossing romantic comedy of all time (Box Office Mojo). In addition, both films have recently been remade in China featuring major Chinese stars. And WHAT W...
BPS 045: How People Around You Can Hurt Your Screenwriting Dreams
June 20, 2019 16:32 - 13 minutes - 12.6 MBBulletproof Screenwriting Podcast - Episode 45: I wish I had someone to tell me this early on my screenwriting journey. In this episode, I go over what happened to me when I was starting out, how my friends affected me and my ability to move forward in my career and what happened to me when I moved to Los Angeles over a decade ago. I discuss how the people around you affect you on a personal, professional and even spiritual level.
Interview with Director Elle Callahan, From Sound Department to Director
June 18, 2019 17:58 - 18 minutes - 8.7 MBEpisode 284 This week on the podcast I talk with Director Elle Callahan about her background working in the sound department and how that helped her get into a position to direct her first feature film, Head Count.
Interview with Writers, Justin Kelly & Savannah Knoop, Adaptating a Novel
June 18, 2019 17:52 - 21 minutes - 10.3 MBEpisode 283 In this episode of the podcast I talk with writers Justin Kelly and Savannah Knoop about how they took Knoop's autobiographical book and turned it into a feature film, and then how they got that screenplay produced.
Interview w/ Writer/Director, Liam O'Mochain, Turning Shorts Into a Feature
June 18, 2019 17:46 - 30 minutes - 14.1 MBSYS Episode 282 This week on the SYS Podcast I talk with Irish writer/director Liam O Mochain. Liam has written/directed/produced numerous short films and he shot his latest feature like a short film, shooting several small stories and then weaving them together in post-production.
IFH 315: The Art of Writing the GREAT Screenplay with Linda Seger
June 18, 2019 17:38 - 1 hour - 82.7 MBToday on the show we have the legendary Linda Segar. Linda was one of my first ever interviews back when I launched Indie Film Hustle and her episode is by far one of the most popular ever. Here’s some info on our lovely guest. In 1981, Linda Seger created and defined the career of Script Consultant. She based her business on a method for analyzing scripts that she had developed for her doctoral dissertation project. Since then, she has consulted on over 2,000 scripts including over 50 pro...
IFH 314: How 17 year-old Director Jonathan Perry Signed w/ Amazon Studios
June 18, 2019 17:25 - 1 hour - 68.7 MBOn this episode, we have 17-year-old scriptwriter and filmmaker Jonathan Perry who directed a large budget short film titled SUBNIVEAN which will debut on Amazon Prime June 12, 2019, making Perry the youngest director on any streaming service. I know, it’s crazy. After filming SUBNIVEAN in December of 2018, Perry and his team of producers wrote a nine-page appeal which was submitted to Amazon. Amazon accepted Perry’s appeal and formed a partnership with Perry. Perry’s partnership with Amaz...
Film Inquiry Episode 12 - Aronofsky
June 18, 2019 17:09 - 1 hour - 134 MBNeed they say more than the title? The fine folks at Film Inquiry bring another episode of their podcast, all about one of the best directors of our time, Darren Aronofsky.
Episode 66 - Dissecting Dead To Me
June 18, 2019 16:57 - 49 minutes - 45.5 MBIt's one of the top shows on Netflix, and if you haven't watched it...and you happen to like murder mysteries with serious emotion and serious laughs, dive in. It's worth every second. In this episode of Wine Wednesday, Max and Felicity discuss what they love about the show and why the show works (in their own humble opinion). It's a question we all wonder; how can I get paid for what I do, and how much for what project and when and from whom? Yeah...it's a lot, and sadly it's all complete...