We are once again joined by former defense lawyer Kirk Nurmi. Mr. Nurmi spent close to 20 years as a defense lawyer handling major sex crimes and death penalty cases. Mr. Nurmi represented Jodi Arias in her death penalty case. Mr. Nurmi talks about the stress and pressure on lawyers, and defense lawyers in particular. Mr. Nurmi also talks about the work he is now doing to help lawyers deal with stress, substance abuse, and other issues that they may be struggling with. This episode is an interesting look into the world of lawyers and the pressure and stress that many of them face.