Courage and Spice: the podcast for humans with Self-doubt
159 episodes - English - Latest episode: 2 months ago - ★★★★★ - 48 ratingsHey guys and gals and non-binary pals! Courage + Spice is the podcast for humans with self-doubt, hosted by me: Sas Petherick. I literally have a masters degree in self-doubt and I've spent almost a decade coaching hundreds of people how to develop robust self-belief. You can expect interviews with delightful humans, evidence-based resources and original proven coaching tools. If self-doubt is holding you back in your relationships, career, creativity or your business, Courage + Spice is especially for you.
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How to be Joyful with Karen Arthur
February 28, 2024 06:00 - 51 minutes - 35.7 MBMy brilliant guest today is Karen Arthur, menopause activist, campaigner, and host of the podcast Menopause whilst Black. She is also a teacher, a fashionista, and a grandmother, and does all of this with unrelnting wholehearted joy. Karen joins us to talk about the balance of feeling joy amidst increasingly troubling world news, embracing the aging process, and putting your energy toward meaningful change, note to mention a whole range of goodness about how we connect ourselves to the worl...
Welcome to the new world
February 14, 2024 08:00 - 27 minutes - 18.8 MBWelcome to a new season of Courage & Spice, and to the Age of Aquarius! For those less astrologically inclined, this means that 2024 has arrived with a big sense of newness – new ideas, new adventures, new opportunities, it’s all on the way. With just a few weeks before I officially move from our home in Bristol to Aotearoa, New Zealand, I’m experiencing fresh starts left and right. Tune in for some transformative life updates, plus a brand new freebie and news from the world of Self-be...
How to let go of the risk of failure (part 2)
December 06, 2023 06:00 - 17 minutes - 12.3 MBThis week, we’re taking a closer look at how to approach the fear of failure so that you can let go of it for good. The threat of failure brings up a lot of very real worries and feelings, which are completely valid. Failure is so wrapped up in our sense of self, what we’re capable of, and our hopes for the future… no wonder we put so much effort into avoiding it. In this episode, I share the experiences that taught me to recontextualize goals in terms of ideas, commitment, and decisions....
How to let go of the risk of failure (part 1)
November 23, 2023 06:00 - 23 minutes - 16 MBAre you afraid of failure? You are definitely not alone. The fear of failure is such a big reason for self-doubt to show up. To complicate it even more, we define failure in so many ways, from not making the cut, to guilt around something unfulfilled, all the way to something simply not going your way. This is a bit of a personal one for me as I’ve been diagnosed with ‘heart failure’ I’ve been playing with my relationship to failure for the last few months. I want to share my learnings fo...
Tending to wealth with Megan DeBoer
November 08, 2023 06:00 - 57 minutes - 39.5 MBIs you self-doubt tied up in your relationship with money? This week, I'm joined by the Founder of Tended Wealth, Megan DeBoer. Megan defines wealth as a state of plenty in relationships, health, community, our environment, and of course our finances. Tune in for a rich discussion on the familial and cultural lineage of money, how we frame our relationship with money based on this history, and what we can do to create new, revolutionary narratives around how we build wealth and what we ...
Five reasons biz feels hard (before you set your biz on fire: listen in!)
October 25, 2023 05:00 - 26 minutes - 18.6 MBBusiness ownership can be the most rewarding way to express who you are – you get to do meaningful work, live your values, and create beautiful things or offer helpful services. At the same time, it can be an epic self-development quest that you probably didn't even realise you were signing up for (I certainly didn’t). There’s no way to create a business that is risk-free, which means that self-doubt is often waiting around every corner. Listen in for five reasons why business can feel so ...
How to cultivate a healthy body image with Prof. Phillippa Diedrichs
October 11, 2023 07:00 - 1 hour - 42.1 MBThis episode kicks off an occasional Courage & Spice series on body image, with my brilliant guest and dear friend Professor Phillippa Diedrichs! Phil is a research psychologist at the Centre for Appearance Research in Bristol, as well as the founder of Everybody Consulting, an academic led consultancy working with global brands to drive social change and improve wellbeing. Tune in for Phil’s expert perspective on what forms our (often complex) relationship with our own bodies, and the wa...
The real reason you are waiting to feel ready (plus: Big News!)
September 27, 2023 06:00 - 18 minutes - 12.8 MBOne of the biggest ways that self-doubt holds us back is by telling us that we aren’t ready. This shows up differently depending on your specific situation. Maybe you’re an artist waiting to feel ready to share your work with an audience, or a writer waiting to contact agents. A coach waiting to perfect your offer before putting it out into the world… even a parent waiting until the kids are older to pursue your dreams. No matter what your situation, I’ve found that we’re never really wa...
Two questions to ask yourself when everything is uncertain
September 13, 2023 05:00 - 21 minutes - 14.9 MBWelcome back to Courage and Spice! As 2023 continues, today I'm sharing with you a compassionate and deceptively simple self-reflection process that has gotten me through uncertain times recently. Listen in for these two questions that you can use to support yourself when the future doesn’t seem so clear. QUOTES “Adulting has real periods of strain. And often there is no neat solution… we have to keep going. There's no destination. I'm unlikely to get to a time where there aren't pres...
2023: This is not what I ordered
July 20, 2023 04:00 - 34 minutes - 24 MBBelieve it or not, we’re about half-way through the mystery magical adventure that has been 2023! Before we go on a podcast hiatus for the summer, I wanted to share the unexpected and twisty journey that this year has been with you. In January, if you asked me to imagine where my mind, heart, and even my body would be in July, I would never have come up with where I am now. A lot of this started with a trip back to my home and family in New Zealand, which evolved my relationship with the...
Cyclical Living with Jen Wright
July 05, 2023 04:00 - 59 minutes - 41 MBAre you feeling out of alignment with your natural rhythm? Maybe you don't even know if you have a natural rhythm? Perhaps you are searching for a sense of order outside of the 9 to 5 world of notifications and expectations? This episode is a treat! Jen Wright is a mentor who works with folks to build values-based, heart-led businesses and she is here to share her expertise in slow, sustainable, cyclical living. Listen in for her insights on how to tune into your body to create your own u...
Me and Ambition: It's complicated with Keri Jarvis
June 21, 2023 06:00 - 41 minutes - 28.6 MBIf you’re not following Keri Jarvis on Instagram @keri_l_jarvis, what are you doing?! Keri is a developmental coach, intersectional feminist, community activist, and all-around bloody ace human. When we recorded this episode, Keri had posted some brilliant thoughts on Instagram about what it really means to identify with being an ambitious person and how her own sense of equity, justice and feminism has caused her relationship with ambition to evolve. We got together to chat more about am...
Unhinged Enthusiasm With Ellie Kime
June 07, 2023 05:00 - 27 minutes - 19.1 MBMy guest today is Ellie Kime, writer, founder of Enthusiast and Co. and publisher of Voracious Magazine. Ellie has a master’s degree in enthusiasm (yes…literally!) and is here to share what it really means to live with unbridled passion for the things you love most. We’re throwing away surface-level good vibes and toxic positivity and diving deep into what it means to be joyfully enthusiastic. Tune in for advice on how to live by your own rules when it comes to business, hobbies, creativ...
The Shadow Side of Coaching with Bridgette Boudreau
May 24, 2023 06:00 - 41 minutes - 28.7 MBThis week I’m speaking with the brilliant Bridgette Boudreau! Bridgette is a master certified life coach; she has been a CEO to multimillion-dollar corporations, built her own business twice, and developed programmes that have trained thousands of coaches… myself included! Bridgette’s mission these days is to infuse your working life with vision, meaning, growth and healing. But today, we’re digging even further into a ‘stealth mission’ that we both share, to educate clients, coaches, and...
I cancelled my biggest launch of the year
May 11, 2023 05:00 - 29 minutes - 20.2 MBIf you’ve been following along on Instagram, you may have caught that a few weeks ago I posted about my decision to cancel my biggest launch of the year. I had just announced Brave Coach Week, which was a joy to run last year and was shaping up to be the same. Off the back of that, I was going to announce the next round of the Self Belief Coaching Academy, the course that’s at the centre of my work and heart. All seemed like it should fall into place. And then… I just wasn’t feeling it. T...
Ambition and Space Holders with Sammie Fleming
April 26, 2023 07:00 - 35 minutes - 24.3 MBThis episode is a little piece of magic brought to you live from Aotearoa, New Zealand. The day after I landed from the UK, I boarded a Very Tiny Plane in order to spend the day with dear friend and fellow coach, Sammie Fleming. Sammie’s coaching practice is all about supporting creatives, coaches, space holders, and healers to claim their wholeness, leadership and deep confidence with ease and flow. Tune in as Sammie and I give you a peek into our time together, including insights on the ...
How to go deeper with Coaching Clients
April 12, 2023 08:00 - 33 minutes - 23.3 MBIn this episode, we are addressing a topic that comes up all the time during Supervision sessions and in training coaches in the Self-belief Coaching Academy: how to go 'deeper' with coaching clients. While the specifics for each of your individual clients will obviously vary, I wanted to spend some time looking at the generalised contexts that tend to be present. And also to know that this is a really, really common question for coaches to ask! I'm sharing three approaches designed to hel...
Your presence is your greatest Coaching tool with Kris Sheppard
March 29, 2023 04:00 - 57 minutes - 39.4 MBOur coach training equips us with incredibly helpful tools, concepts and approaches, and client work provides the real-world experience of supporting actual humans, most professional coaches find that there is still something missing. And no I don't mean a business coach! We need a different third thing - a learning space that helps us to make sense of everything. Where we can reflect on our relationship with very specific, three-dimensional, paying clients (not theoretical avatars or ot...
Why criticism is so crunchy
March 01, 2023 08:00 - 30 minutes - 20.7 MBUrgh criticism is The Worst, isn't it? Just the thought of it makes most of us clench up. So let's have a peek at what's actually going on. In this episode, we'll explore why we are so afraid of criticism, where that 'urgh' reaction comes from, and what we can do to get more comfortable with what other people think. For this week’s free resource, you can download my recent workshop What will people think?!, which dives even further into how to lovingly detach from other people’s opinion...
Places, Poetry and Photos with Sophie Howarth
February 15, 2023 08:00 - 53 minutes - 36.6 MBThis week my guest Sophie Howarth and I are diving into what it really means to create your own pace in a culture that prioritises faster and more. Sophie is an artist, writer and teacher, whose work is about deepening connection to ourselves, one another and the wider web of life. We talk thorough ways to tune into your surroundings and get comfortable with going slow, and how Sophie includes and promotes this practice in her own work. Tune in to see just how much you can discover on a...
Recalibrating to life in third gear
February 02, 2023 09:00 - 23 minutes - 16.5 MBA huge 2023 welcome back to Courage and Spice! I took some time to reset over the Christmas holiday, a much needed step back that made me realise just want it means to fully commit to rest and rejuvenation instead of just stopping work. As I make plans for the new year, I’m realising that there’s no reason for the spaciousness that I felt to disappear. Which is why I’m focusing this episode on how to stay in a gear that honours your energy and creativity. I’m also making some changes to ho...
A Surprising Source of Business & Personal Growth
December 07, 2022 05:00 - 21 minutes - 14.9 MBFor my last episode of 2022, I’m talking about the number one action that I’ve taken to grow my business. Now stay with me, because I know this can come with a lot of feelings… that action is asking for feedback! We tend to avoid feedback because many of us equate it with criticism. The secret is that the benefits of getting that feedback far outweigh the fear around it. This means building the courage to ask is one of the best things you can do for your work, business and personal growth. ...
We are Stardust with Agnes Becker
November 24, 2022 04:00 - 46 minutes - 32.2 MBToday, we are visiting our guest, Agnes Becker’s world. This is the world of we are stardust - a place where art and science collide to enrich your experience of and relationship with our messy, beautiful universe. So what’s this episode really about? Agnes creates artwork that inspires connection with the more-than-human world and online adventures that encourage you to rewild your soul. We talk about wonder, and hidden worlds, and finding both by slowing down and really looking. Agnes'...
Expectations and Unconditional Love
November 16, 2022 04:00 - 22 minutes - 15.4 MBIf you notice there are stories you are telling yourself like “If my partner was different, I would feel loved” or “If my boss was a whole other human being, I would enjoy my work so much more” then this episode is for you! I'm sharing how to become aware of the expectations we carry around and the steps to take to make the shift from expectations to unconditional love. This process has dramatically transformed every single one of my relationships. What if no one needs to change for you to...
Every story has three narratives
November 09, 2022 04:00 - 19 minutes - 13.2 MBI’m really excited to chat with you today about a concept that has been brewing for me over the last few months - that every single story we tell about ourselves, has three different narratives. In this episode I discuss these three layers as I see them, and explain how going into the third layer is where we get to really understand something new about who we are. It's no accident that this is coming up for me right now, as I am currently in an in-depth training programme to certify as a C...
Trauma and Coaching with Katie Kurtz
November 02, 2022 04:00 - 39 minutes - 27 MBFolks I’m so excited to welcome Katie Kurtz to the podcast. Katie is a licensed social worker and trained trauma specialist, certified coach, consultant and yoga teacher. Not only that, but she also facilitates a beautiful program called Cultivate, which is all about trauma-informed care, and has recently created the most beautiful card deck called Contain. So what’s this episode really about? This conversation is an in-depth conversation about trauma-informed care and trauma-informed coa...
RECAST: Behind The Scenes (Literally) Of A Conversation with 6 & 7 Figure Coaches
October 26, 2022 05:00 - 1 hour - 48.6 MBI’m really excited to bring you this episode today, especially for all the coaches in the house as I share an incredible conversation I had recently with a few members of my business mastermind group. In this round table conversation, I’m joined by Ellie Swift, Taryn Bolt, Sofia Bernardi and Nivek Harrison as we talk about all the aspects of running a coaching business - the good, the bad and everything in between. This was such a generous conversation and I know you’re going to get so ma...
Big Birthday Thoughts - the glorious joy of being ordinary
October 19, 2022 05:00 - 21 minutes - 15.1 MBLast year I did a big birthday thoughts episode - just jamming on what's on my mind right now. So today it's my 49th birthday and these are my big birthday thoughts. If you’re at a crossroads or coming up to a new stage of your life, you might be curious to hear how I’m navigating this time of my life. If you're curious about what it feels like to build a life that fits you, in all your humanness, I offer some reflections on what this has felt like for me. Perhaps you’d like just to tune...
Community is Crucial with Mel Wiggings
October 12, 2022 03:00 - 45 minutes - 31.3 MBThis week’s episode is essential for all business owners. It can often feel very lonely when running your own business and it's difficult to find other people who can truly relate to your journey. My guest today is Mel Wiggins. After a decade of working in nonprofit management and activism roles, Mel decided to pivot her career to work with women who want to be more courageous in their lives and work. She built a strong and thriving community serving hundreds of women from her home in Nort...
How to be a Brilliant Course Creator
October 05, 2022 05:00 - 19 minutes - 13.4 MBThere is NOTHING quite like the buzz of teaching a course you've created and the magic that happens as the group goes on a learning adventure together. Plus: the creative, financial and emotional rewards for you - so fun! However, the sobering reality is that the completion rates for adult online learning experiences are really shocking - less than 15% of us finish any kind of online experience. In this episode, I take you through the five key reasons why online learning experiences don’t...
Teenage Anxiety and Parental Self-doubt with Angela McMillan
September 28, 2022 03:00 - 28 minutes - 19.9 MBI’m delighted to introduce Angela McMillan. She is the founder of Elemental Health and is an accredited counsellor and coach who works primarily with young people who experience anxiety. Angela has made it her mission to help anxious young people and the adults in their lives develop tools and strategies to help them recover from anxiety and thrive. So what’s this episode really about? Being a teenager is always tricky but right now there are so many additional layers of complexity right ...
Future Fantasies
September 21, 2022 03:00 - 20 minutes - 13.9 MBIn today’s episode, we are talking about Future Fantasies. This is one of the most innocuous patterns of protection - one day I'll have this / do this / be this. It’s SO seductive! So let’s talk about how future fantasies work, the ways self-doubt is involved and how to unhook yourself from this pattern. If you tend to get stuck in thinking “when I have that job I’ll be able to…” or “when I lose weight I can…”, then this episode is absolutely for you. If you’re waiting for ANY outside ci...
We need transformation not information
September 14, 2022 03:00 - 21 minutes - 15.1 MBIf you’ve ever worked with a coach in the past or you’re thinking about doing so, this episode will help you understand the difference between a “nice” conversation and coaching that is truly transformational. Maybe you’ve got a stack of self-help books, you follow a lot of coaches and therapists online but you’re feeling frustrated that you still haven’t been able to make the changes that you want. If you can relate, this episode will give you some deeper insight into the brave and libera...
How to be a Brilliant Course Taker
September 07, 2022 03:00 - 14 minutes - 9.83 MBIt's September: back-to-school season. For me, lifelong learning is one of the great joys of being an adult - because we get to choose our experiences! But taking the time to reflect before you dive into a new learning experience is important. In this episode, I have nine questions to help you decide how and why to take the leap. These are questions to ask both of yourself, and also of the course. They will help you think about why you might be interested in a course, get clear on your int...
10 Reasons Self-belief School is right for you!
August 31, 2022 03:00 - 17 minutes - 11.9 MBSelf-Belief School is the program I’ve been dreaming about creating for a really long time. It’s the culmination of 10 years of work and it is finally ready! I have a deep and abiding passion for our experiences and for the last decade I’ve been obsessed with why we hold ourselves back and get in our own way. I’ve read pretty much every evidence-based study based on self-doubt. And while sometimes it feels like a strange thing to own, there is no doubt I am an expert on self-doubt. What I...
Check-in on my Word of the Year: Disappointment
June 22, 2022 04:00 - 20 minutes - 13.9 MBThis is my last episode before a summer break with my lady friends so I thought it would be great for this episode to check in on my word of the year: Disappointment. I chose to play with disappointment in 2022 because I recognised it to be the psychological risk I’m most sensitive to. My self doubt is always trying to protect me from being disappointed but as we know, that’s just an illusion of safety. I wanted to be able to sit with disappointment, explore it a bit and get rid of the oblig...
Mothering and Friendship with Lisa Mabberley
June 15, 2022 03:00 - 42 minutes - 29.3 MBToday's episode is in response to two listener letters on issues that affect so many of us, mothering and friendship. I have guest Lisa Mabberley on the show today to share her expertise as a self-belief coach who works with people impacted by issues surrounding motherhood. Thank you to Angela and Jen for trusting us with their stories. So what’s this episode really about? Lisa shares the concept of Matrescence - the ongoing process of changing and transforming as a human being into a m...
Four Myths and a Truth about Self-compassion
June 08, 2022 03:00 - 27 minutes - 19.1 MBIf there is only one idea that will help you navigate the path from self-doubt to self-belief – it’s compassion. It can feel so normal to criticize ourselves when things go wrong and blame everything on our own shortcomings, but embracing self-compassion can be a gamechanger. So what’s this episode really about? Why compassion is so important and why we resist it. I share the four myths and a truth about compassion to help get rid of any preconceived ideas that exist and show how self...
The Art of Tending with Penny Wincer
June 01, 2022 03:00 - 43 minutes - 30.2 MBPenny Wincer is an author, freelance writer, and book coach based in London. She writes about unpaid caring, raising a neurodiverse family, working life, and approaching life’s challenges with curiosity. Her book, “Tender: The imperfect art of caring” is just brilliant. I’m delighted to have Penny as a guest on Courage + Spice today as we explore her experiences caring for her son and mother, her book, and the thread of compassion that runs through it all. So what’s this episode really ab...
You can sit with us: Self-doubt and the Sisterhood Wound
May 25, 2022 03:00 - 30 minutes - 21.1 MBIn this week's solo episode, I wanted to share something that feels particularly alive to me right now: female friendships. I have just returned from a weekend ‘self-love’ retreat hosted by past podcast guest Karen Johnston (you can check out my interview with the marvellous Karen in episode 94) and my three beloved friends, Pippa, Philippa and Helen. And because of them, and me and the way Karen held the space and the alignment of planets, something was healed in me in real-time about a...
From baker to nurse: the courage to change career with Zoe Berkeley
May 18, 2022 03:00 - 43 minutes - 29.6 MBSo many of us spend years as an employee, hankering to turn our passions into a business. But what happens when your longings are to give up the self-employed life and join an organisation? In this week's episode, I have the pleasure of talking to Zoe Berkeley: baker turned palliative care nurse. I met Zoe ages ago in her bakery in North London and over the last 10 years, I have watched Zoe make significant changes to her career. It’s been a total joy to watch from the sidelines! So what’s...
Self-doubt is an unreliable narrator and one question to turn it around
May 11, 2022 03:00 - 19 minutes - 13.7 MBIn this week's solo episode, we explore how Self-doubt shows up as an 'unreliable narrator'. This means it will offer us a lot of stories and ideas that are not based on evidence and fact. When we don't question these stories, we end up making decisions from a place of trying to avoid discomfort. Long time podcast listeners will know that I characterise Self-doubt as our inbuilt protection mechanism, its entire purpose is to prevent us from getting hurt. This means Self-doubt is like a smo...
Reclaiming Creativity with Anna Lovind
May 04, 2022 03:00 - 51 minutes - 35.3 MBAnna Lovind is a writer, creativity teacher and mother living in rural Sweden. She is an introverted entrepreneur who helps feminist creatives & change-makers go from dreaming to doing. We have so many crossovers of creation, from creativity and self-doubt, I am absolutely delighted to have her as a guest on Courage + Spice! So what’s this episode really about? I ask Anna her take on what holds us back creatively, as people who identify as women. We talk about our relationship with time a...
Mushroom Medicine with Karen King
April 27, 2022 03:00 - 1 hour - 49.9 MBHey folks, the episode contains references to drug use so please be mindful of where you are listening in. In this episode, I am sharing a very personal experience. Just before the new year, I went on a solo retreat and with the support of a guide, I took psychedelic mushrooms for the first time. Psilocybin is the psychoactive ingredient in mushrooms and this is still considered a Class A drug in the UK. But in other countries and in many indigenous and ceremonial cultures, it is used as...
The four times Self-doubt comes up for Coaches (and how to navigate them)
April 20, 2022 03:00 - 31 minutes - 21.5 MBThis week, I thought it would be super helpful for us, as practitioners, to talk through the evolution of our work: namely the 4 times self-doubt shows up for us and how we can navigate these experiences. What I’ve come to experience and I hope you have too, is that our work is never linear. This week's episode explores my own coaching life and the experiences of the hundreds of coaches I have had the pleasure of working with over the last decade. Enjoy! So what’s this episode really about?...
Developmentally Minded: How Self-belief Coaching gets to the root causes
April 13, 2022 03:00 - 38 minutes - 26.2 MBIn this week's solo episode, I talk in-depth about Self-belief coaching and how it differs from mainstream coaching. When we first train in the fundamentals of coaching, we tend to focus a lot on thoughts, feelings and actions - what our clients think and feel and what they do as a result. Don’t get me wrong, this is amazing! There are huge gains to be made in setting goals and achieving them, massive peace comes from questioning our thoughts. But a sole focus on mindset and behaviour ca...
Coaching as Ancient Feminine Wisdom with Lianne Raymond
April 04, 2022 05:00 - 54 minutes - 37.3 MBIt’s my delight to welcome this week's podcast guest, my wise, brilliant friend Lianne Raymond. Lianne is a coach, mentor and educator, who re-imagines coaching as a feminine wisdom tradition. She mentors coaches and women leaders, so she is truly the perfect guest for this week: we are talking about coaching as a catalyst for accent feminine wisdom. So what’s this episode really about? Lianne talks in-depth about the history of feminine wisdom and speaks about how it has been dismissed ...
Scott Robson; the inside scoop on SBCA
March 30, 2022 04:00 - 47 minutes - 32.9 MBScott Robson is my brother from another mother and my wingman, he is the head support coach of my Self Belief Coaching Academy - an entrepreneurial and marketing coach, creative and connector who supports leaders in the very human experience that is running a business. I don’t quite know what life was like without Scott and I hope I never need to find out! Scott was the first-ever person to enrol in SBCA and in this episode we take a look behind the scenes and really go into detail about wha...
Scott Robson: the inside scoop on SBCA
March 30, 2022 04:00 - 47 minutes - 32.8 MBScott Robson is my brother from another mother and my wingman, he is the head support coach of my Self Belief Coaching Academy - an entrepreneurial and marketing coach, creative and connector who supports leaders in the very human experience that is running a business. I don’t quite know what life was like without Scott and I hope I never need to find out! Scott was the first-ever person to enrol in SBCA and in this episode we take a look behind the scenes and really go into detail about wha...
Quantum Self-belief Codes with Pandora Paloma
March 23, 2022 04:00 - 42 minutes - 29.5 MBIn this week's episode, my guest is life and business coach, author and speaker Pandora Paloma. What Pandora does so beautifully, is combine spirituality with strategy; I love how she shows up, inviting us to claim all of ourselves. I myself have been opening up more and more to dancing with the mystery of life - so I’ve been so excited to talk with her - I could literally do a whole podcast series on quantum! So what’s this episode really about? I ask Pandora to expand on her reoccurring...