Code WACK!
233 episodes - English - Latest episode: 7 days ago - ★★★★★ - 10 ratingsCode WACK! shines a light on our callous healthcare system and what we can do about it. It reveals the healthcare hassles that - far from being just annoying - threaten our peace of mind, our financial security and at times, our very lives. Join us each week as we chat about the challenges that patients and healthcare providers face, amplifying their voices and examining a range of possible solutions, including Medicare for All. Powered by HEAL California, a project of the California OneCare Education Fund, Code WACK! informs the vital discussion of healthcare reform.
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Heartless Denial: HIV Discrimination & Organ Transplants
August 30, 2021 13:56 - 9 minutes - 12.4 MBIt’s tough enough to be born with a genetic predisposition to heart disease. Tougher still to suffer advanced heart failure at 43. Then add in an HIV diagnosis and a hyper-fragmented healthcare system. What if your health plan won’t pay for your heart transplant because of a pre-existing condition or some other reason? Join Joel Sloan and Brenda Gazzar as they delve into the disturbing details of his extraordinary fight to live.
'Centuries of Inequities' & the COVID Crisis
August 23, 2021 13:38 - 10 minutes - 13.7 MBHow has America’s lack of a national, coordinated response to COVID affected us? What about the attacks on America’s public sector? Why did simply having to go to work turn out to be the single biggest issue Black Americans faced during the pandemic? Join host Brenda Gazzar and Chicago’s own Dr. Linda Rae Murray, MD, MPH, as they take a deep dive on the structural reasons for America’s fragmented healthcare system and what we need to do to fix it.
Medicine's undeniable role in U.S. racism
August 16, 2021 13:25 - 9 minutes - 12.4 MBHow is racism baked into American society? What role has medicine played in propagating it? How does racism in health care affect Black and indigenous peoples? Listen as "full-time troublemaker" Dr. Linda Rae Murray, MD, MPH, former Chief Medical Officer - Primary Care for the Cook County Bureau of Health Services and host Brenda Gazzar discuss the artificial separation between social, structural and personal racism -- and how little has changed since the 1970s.
Restaurant Worker Abuse? Let Us Count The Ways
August 09, 2021 13:26 - 8 minutes - 11 MBDoes commercial health insurance - when it's actually affordable - even provide the kinds of coverage restaurant workers need to cope with backbreaking work and emotional abuse? Who would want to risk catching COVID to do a job that pays $2.13 an hour plus tips? Join Brenda Waybrant, union organizer and former long-time restaurant worker, and host Brenda Gazzar as they discuss how COVID was a wake-up call for workers in a service industry that in too many cases, ignored and forgot them durin...
Why Restaurant Workers are Singing the Blues: Former Nashville Server Speaks Out
August 02, 2021 13:42 - 9 minutes - 12.4 MBWhat health challenges do restaurant workers face as a result of their work? How did they fare during COVID? Can most restaurant workers really afford to miss a shift due to illness? Join Brenda Waybrant, union organizer and former long-time restaurant worker in Nashville, and host Brenda Gazzar as they discuss how private health insurance - whether employer-sponsored or from the marketplace - remains unaffordable for many Americans in low-income jobs, while public health insurance saves liv...
Cherry picking? Lemon dropping? How health insurers weed out sick people
July 26, 2021 14:13 - 7 minutes - 9.62 MBHow do health insurance companies avoid insuring more costly patients? What’s a “trojan horse” when it comes to single-payer legislation? Does financing health care through an insurance system make sense? Join Dr. Stephen Kemble, practicing psychiatrist and past president of the Hawaii Medical Association, and Brenda Gazzar as they discuss one of the biggest challenges to winning Medicare for All in California - the popularity of HMO giant Kaiser Permanente.
Did NY Dems drop the ball on Medicare for All -- again?
July 19, 2021 15:00 - 10 minutes - 13.7 MBWhat's long COVID like, after a year? How much does it cost to treat? Are some Americans still having to "stay married for the health insurance" - in 2021? What's one way Medicaid fails special needs kids? Listen as Mariana Pineda, a New York teacher, mother of four and single-payer activist pulls back the curtain on the campaign for the New York Health Act. Why, on the heels of a devastating pandemic, did the Democratic-controlled New York Legislature take a pass on Medicare for All?
Hallucinating & Hypertensive: A Long COVID Nightmare
July 12, 2021 14:32 - 11 minutes - 15.1 MBAs if having Long COVID weren’t enough, does America’s broken healthcare system make things worse? Does the social safety net - meaning Medicaid, unemployment and disability insurance - actually save us? Join Mariana Pineda, a New York teacher and mother of four, as she shares her COVID long-haul nightmare with host Brenda Gazzar. It was hard enough just trying to stay alive and keep her health insurance in force. Why was getting treatments approved by her insurance like a full-time job?
The Fallacy of Choice in U.S. Health Care
July 05, 2021 14:19 - 10 minutes - 13.7 MBWhat if your surgery were suddenly cancelled the day before because your insurer deemed it "medically unnecessary?" What choices do Americans have when it comes to their care? Would global budgeting have helped rural hospitals cope with the pandemic? Stephanie Kang, PhD, health policy director for Rep. Pramila Jayapal, shares with Brenda Gazzar how her father's personal experience with a marketplace health plan during a serious health crisis illustrates the need for improved, expanded Medica...
Setting the stage for health equity in America
June 28, 2021 14:40 - 9 minutes - 12.4 MBWhat’s the point of pushing for Medicare for All when President Biden opposes it? What about racial equity in healthcare - is winning single payer enough? Is there any value in supporting incremental legislation expanding Medicare to some? Host Brenda Gazzar and guest, Dr. Stephanie Kang, PhD, health policy director for Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal discuss legislative strategies worth pursuing now if we hope to win a better healthcare future for America.
The $4T Elephant in the Room - U.S. Health Care
June 21, 2021 14:48 - 10 minutes - 13.7 MBWhat’s holding the U.S. back from implementing system-wide solutions to our healthcare woes? How do other countries rein in prescription drug prices? What are the 5 most important lessons about health care that the U.S. could learn from other wealthy nations? Host Brenda Gazzar and her guest, Dr. Thomas Rice, health economist and Distinguished Professor at UCLA’s Fielding School of Public Health, discuss why it’s not “one-size-fits-all” when it comes to health insurance systems.
Shareholders Before Patients - America’s Healthcare Dilemma
June 14, 2021 13:52 - 10 minutes - 13.7 MBWhy does the U.S. healthcare system perform poorly in equity and efficiency compared to other wealthy nations? How does the U.S. ration access to health care based on cost? How do other countries manage to cover everyone for less? What lessons can we learn from their health insurance systems? Host Brenda Gazzar and her guest, Dr. Thomas Rice, health economist and Distinguished Professor in UCLA’s Department of Health Policy and Management, discuss his new book, “Health Insurance Systems: An...
The Three-Front Battle for California Single Payer
June 07, 2021 14:43 - 9 minutes - 12.4 MBWhat's happening with healthcare reform in one of the bluest states in the nation, California? On which three fronts are single-payer advocates battling? What's essential to winning a healthcare justice ground game? Join host Brenda Gazzar and her guest, Ellen Karel, Chair of Health Care for All - California, as they discuss this historic moment for single-payer in the Golden State!
An Offense to Justice & Humanity?
May 31, 2021 14:53 - 8 minutes - 11 MBHow did Ellen Karel, the chair of Health Care for All-California, come to support Medicare for All? What lead her to advocate for healthcare equity? Join host Brenda Gazzar and Ellen Karel as they discuss how expensive getting care can be, even with health insurance. Why should hardworking Californians, struggling to survive on low incomes, face hurdles to getting the care they need? What is holding California back from embracing single-payer healthcare, which would cover everyone for less m...
Hawaii, Vermont & Single Payer: What went wrong?
May 24, 2021 14:27 - 7 minutes - 9.62 MBHow did Hawaii’s effort to establish universal healthcare get derailed by the Affordable Care Act? What’s an all-payer healthcare system and is it an alternative (or a path) to single-payer? What really happened with Vermont’s attempt at single payer? Dr. Stephen Kemble, psychiatrist and past president of the Hawaii Medical Association, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss what key feature of a single-payer plan is absolutely essential to reduce overall healthcare costs. Learn more & subscribe a...
Mental Health & Medicaid's Managed Care Mess
May 17, 2021 14:34 - 9 minutes - 12.4 MBFor Mental Health Awareness month, this week's pod looks at how Medicaid Managed Care affects the availability of mental health services for low-income patients. Do corporate insurance industry practices, like preauthorization, complicate the treatment of mental health patients? Dr. Stephen Kemble, psychiatrist and past president of the Hawaii Medical Association, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss how Managed Care burdens patients and psychiatrists alike and how new models, such as collaborativ...
What’s driving U.S. doctors out of private practice?
May 10, 2021 14:51 - 8 minutes - 6.3 MBHow do common health insurance industry practices affect doctors’ ability to remain independent? Can doctors stay in business when today’s reimbursement rates in some specialties can be lower than they were 30 years ago? What happens when billing-related administrative expenses are too high? Dr. Nancy Niparko, a pediatric neurologist in the Los Angeles area, explains to host Brenda Gazzar how she came to shut down her private practice and accept employment. Learn more & subscribe at HEAL C...
Health Insurance: America’s ‘chaotic deal with the devil?’
May 03, 2021 14:46 - 9 minutes - 6.83 MBWhat can doctors do when they learn the best treatment for their patients is not covered by health insurance? How are American children impacted by coverage denials and the high cost of medicines? Brenda Gazzar and Dr. Nancy Niparko, a pediatric neurologist at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, discuss the frustrating and unnecessary insurance hassles doctors routinely face while trying to properly treat their patients, and how different it is in Canada. Learn more & subscribe at HEAL Californ...
Unemployed & Uninsured in a Pandemic
April 26, 2021 14:30 - 8 minutes - 6.27 MBHow were everyday Americans affected when they lost their jobs and their health insurance during the pandemic? Is subsidized health insurance from Affordable Care Act marketplaces an answer, given out-of-pocket limits as high as $8,150 in 2020? Host Brenda Gazzar and Cathy Munzer, a fitness instructor living in Flushing Queens, discuss the fear and stress she felt when facing a medical emergency while unemployed and unable to afford health insurance. Learn more at HEAL California!
Taking on Corporate Healthcare in America
April 19, 2021 14:38 - 10 minutes - 8.27 MBWhat would the political path to winning Medicare for All look like? How can we take on the power of corporate health care? Why is it essential that people understand how our for-profit healthcare system affects them personally? Host Brenda Gazzar and Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, physician and politician, discuss how his compelling new book, “Medicare for All: A Citizen’s Guide” was written for skeptics and advocates alike, and why this fight matters for everyone. Learn more & subscribe at HEAL C...
'Critical Condition:' How to Save American Health Care?
April 12, 2021 14:40 - 10 minutes - 8.37 MBWhat impact did having roots in two worlds - Detroit, Michigan and Alexandria, Egypt - have on a young Dr. Abdul El-Sayed? How did his life experience sharpen his perception of the systems of inequality? What motivated him to first pursue a career in medicine, then move on to public health and now politics? Host Brenda Gazzar and Dr. El-Sayed, physician and politician, discuss his compelling life and best-selling new book, “Medicare for All: A Citizen’s Guide.”
The Scoop on California's New Medicare for All Bill
April 05, 2021 14:26 - 9 minutes - 7.19 MBWhat are the key features of CalCare, California’s new single-payer bill (AB 1400)? Will it save money, or cost more? If we had single-payer, would Californians still have to pay premiums and deductibles? University of California San Francisco professor emeritus James G. Kahn, health economics expert, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss facts about CalCare, including options to finance it, and what we can do to help get it passed!
The David & Goliath Fight for Medicare for All
March 29, 2021 14:41 - 8 minutes - 6.37 MBWhat convinced a global health expert that single-payer healthcare systems are the way to go? How did the coronavirus pandemic impact the existing American healthcare system? Why has the California Legislature failed to get to single-payer despite widespread support for it? University of California San Francisco professor emeritus James G. Kahn, health economics expert, and Brenda Gazzar discuss the state of past and future healthcare reform efforts. Don't forget to subscribe for news, vie...
America's Racial Generation Gap & Healthcare Reform
March 22, 2021 14:15 - 9 minutes - 7.25 MBWhat about the people who earn too much for Medicaid but too little to afford Obamacare? How has our broken healthcare system taken center stage at the union bargaining table? Have racial and generational divisions held back the healthcare reform movement? Sean Cavanaugh, campaign director for Whole Washington, and host Brenda Gazzar, discuss why bridging the racial generation gap is key to winning Medicare for All.
The fight for healthcare equity in Washington State
March 15, 2021 14:49 - 8 minutes - 6.54 MBHow does our corporate healthcare system prevent us from fully investing in the public good? What about its disparate impact on Black Americans? How would we all benefit if our society prioritized taking care of people? Sean Cavanaugh, campaign director for Whole Washington, and host Brenda Gazzar, discuss why SB 5204, the latest single payer bill in Washington State, is vital and how it would work.
Free to leave? Domestic abuse & health care
March 08, 2021 15:18 - 10 minutes - 6.69 MBWhat are the traps that can keep survivors locked into abusive relationships? Is domestic violence more common in lower-income households? What advantages do higher-income survivors have when they seek help? Michele Hamilton, counselor and board member of Health Care 4 All-PA, joins host Brenda Gazzar to discuss how Medicare for All would change the dynamics for abuse survivors. Click here for transcript.
How America’s broken healthcare system fails victims of domestic abuse
March 01, 2021 15:37 - 10 minutes - 6.95 MBDomestic abuse victims often need urgent treatment for health problems resulting from physical and emotional assault. In many cases, they must find shelter in another town, county or state. How does the U.S. health insurance system respond to their needs? What about county-specific safety-net programs? Michele Hamilton, counselor in a domestic abuse shelter and board member of Health Care 4 All-PA, joins host Brenda Gazzar to discuss why Americans need health insurance that is not tied to ...
Pesticides, Accidents and ICE: Migrant farmworkers risk their lives to put food on your table
February 22, 2021 15:29 - 9 minutes - 7.09 MBCalifornia’s migrant farmworkers suffer from more than inadequate housing, inaccessible health care and social isolation. What are the health risks they face at work each day while contributing to the state’s booming agricultural economy? Radio Bilingue's Hugo Morales and host Brenda Gazzar discuss the dangers farmworkers face at work, including pesticide exposure, working around farm animals and with mechanized equipment. Then there’s the constant fear of deportation. . . .Click for the tra...
Radio Bilingue's Hugo Morales - from farmworker to public radio mogul
February 15, 2021 16:31 - 10 minutes - 6.99 MBWhat health challenges do California’s farmworkers and their families routinely face as a consequence of dire poverty? What’s it like to be socially isolated and treated like an alien? Hugo Morales, co-founder and executive director of Radio Bilingue, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss his incredible life, starting as a Mexican-born indigenous child who joined his father at a farm labor camp in Healdsburg, California to his time studying at Harvard.
Battered by illness, medical bills in America's South
February 08, 2021 15:34 - 12 minutes - 9.6 MBWhat options are there for an uninsured performing artist facing financial destruction from medical bills? How does one’s state of residence impact the affordability of health care? Eliska Hahn and host Brenda Gazzar discuss the challenge of affording health care after developing a devastating illness even with the Affordable Care Act.
Any port in America’s healthcare storm?
February 01, 2021 15:28 - 10 minutes - 15.3 MBHow did a hardworking, highly talented performance artist end up declaring medical bankruptcy at age 23? Does the desire for dignity, independence and healthcare security mean Americans must give up their dreams of working in creative fields? Host Brenda Gazzar and Eliska Hahn, voice talent, model and actor, examine how America’s fragmented healthcare system let her down as she started a family while pursuing an ambitious entertainment career across the country.
Stigma, Incarceration and Coronavirus - A Triple Threat
January 25, 2021 14:28 - 10 minutes - 12.8 MBWhy are incarcerated people experiencing devastating coronavirus outbreaks? What special vulnerabilities do they face that increase their susceptibility to the virus? Host Brenda Gazzar and Dr. Nina Harawa discuss how the day-to-day realities of life in prisons and jails make it nearly impossible to avoid exposure, and what needs to be done about it.
Equity & Respect: A Prescription for a Healthy Society
January 18, 2021 15:36 - 13 minutes - 17 MBToday we’re celebrating the life of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., a racial equity champion, with a look at how stigmatized communities such as HIV-positive, transgender and incarcerated people are faring overall and during the coronavirus pandemic. Host Brenda Gazzar and Dr. Nina Harawa discuss the special vulnerabilities they face, and how to effectively communicate vital health-related information in light of a history of mistreatment in the medical system.
Grieving dad won’t stop fighting for Medicare for All
January 11, 2021 15:20 - 14 minutes - 16.9 MBHow can a father cope with the senseless death of a beloved son following a missed $20 premium payment? What devastating consequences can result when a patient's health insurance changes without warning? Host Brenda Gazzar and Scott Desnoyers discuss how an unexpected health insurance change meant that his son Danny lost access to critical medication, which he says contributed to his son's suicide. How would things be different if we had Medicare for All?
How safe is the coronavirus vaccine? Dr. Rob Davidson weighs in
January 04, 2021 14:39 - 7 minutes - 5.83 MBHow can we overcome vaccine hesitancy among Americans? What role does distrust of the medical establishment play in the decision to be vaccinated? Why do some communities have serious concerns around seeking medical care? Host Brenda Gazzar and Dr. Rob Davidson, practicing emergency room doctor, discuss the targeted messaging campaign being launched by the Committee to Protect Medicare, the latest mRNA vaccine technology and why he trusts the new COVID-19 vaccines.
The Unmasked Truth with Dr. Rob Davidson, Committee to Protect Medicare
December 28, 2020 17:40 - 6 minutes - 4.9 MBWhy is it that an advanced nation like the U.S. has experienced over 2 million COVID-19 infections? How have factors like the lack of a coordinated federal response and an inadequate health insurance system contributed to our national health tragedy? Host Brenda Gazzar and Dr. Rob Davidson, practicing emergency room doctor and head of Committee to Protect Medicare, discuss how wearing masks and getting vaccinated would save countless American lives.
PNHP's Dr. Susan Rogers: Stop blaming patients and start asking questions
December 21, 2020 15:41 - 11 minutes - 9.37 MBWhy did a man in his 20s die from a totally treatable disease? How do social determinants affect patients’ ability to get to doctors appointments or buy prescribed medicines? Host Brenda Gazzar and Dr. Susan Rogers, new president of Physicians for a National Health Program, discuss how essential it is to acknowledge the role inequities play in health care and to stop blaming patients.
Been there. PNHP's Dr. Susan Rogers on racism in U.S. medicine
December 14, 2020 15:46 - 9 minutes - 8.18 MBWhat was it like growing up Black in America during the Civil Rights struggles of the 1960's? What was the experience of systemic racism faced by students of color - especially Black women - in medical school during that era? With host Brenda Gazzar, Dr. Susan Rogers, new president of Physicians for a National Health Program, describes the life experiences that helped shape her commitment to social justice and healthcare equity.
What Now for California’s Medicare for All Movement?
December 07, 2020 16:07 - 8 minutes - 5.25 MBWhat are the prospects for single payer in California? What role might the Healthy California for All Commission play in the future of the state's healthcare system? What about Gov. Gavin Newsom and the Legislature? Michael Lighty, founding fellow of the Sanders Institute and former healthcare constituency director for Bernie 2020, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss who and what California single-payer supporters should focus on in 2021.
Does a Biden White House spell the end of Medicare for All?
November 30, 2020 16:25 - 6 minutes - 3.69 MBWhat are the prospects for Medicare for All under President-elect Joe Biden's tenure given his stated opposition to it? What steps can we expect the federal government to take to address healthcare inequities? What about reform efforts within the states? Michael Lighty, founding fellow of the Sanders Institute and former healthcare constituency director for Bernie 2020, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss how Biden's presidency might affect federal and state efforts to win Medicare for All.
Will the legal challenge to Obamacare fail?
November 23, 2020 16:20 - 6 minutes - 5.2 MBHow likely is it that the U.S. Supreme Court would rule the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional? What does “unconstitutional” actually mean in this context? Scott Nelson, a public interest attorney working with Public Citizen, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss possible outcomes to the case against Obamacare, and the reasons why Public Citizen, a nonprofit consumer advocacy organization, believes Medicare for All would be a better option for Americans than our current market-based system.
Obamacare on Trial - What's at Stake?
November 16, 2020 16:28 - 9 minutes - 7.92 MBThe Affordable Care Act is before the Supreme Court again. What's the latest case about? Why are California and Texas suing over the landmark legislation? What impact might the court's decision have on Americans' health care? Scott Nelson, a public interest attorney working with the nonprofit consumer advocacy organization Public Citizen, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss the latest legal challenge to Obamacare and the possible consequences.
Worry-free health care? Not even in LaLa Land!
November 09, 2020 15:43 - 6 minutes - 5.44 MBWhat recourse do performers and media professionals have in the face of rising health insurance premiums? Is the entertainment industry bouncing back from the pandemic? Ayesha Orange, professional dancer, choreographer, and single mom, joins host Brenda Gazzar to discuss how increased health insurance expenses may affect her and her young son next year.
Don't ‘break a leg!’ Health benefit changes are coming to Tinseltown
November 02, 2020 15:31 - 6 minutes - 5.56 MBChanges to SAG-AFTRA’s benefit plans concern working-age performers and retirees alike. What happens when an artist can't get enough work to qualify for benefits - like, during a pandemic? And what about COBRA? Ayesha Orange, professional dancer, choreographer, and a single mom, joins host Brenda Gazzar to discuss how changes to SAG-AFTRA’s benefit plans are throwing even more worries into the mix ahead of 2021.
Lights! Camera! Uninsured! Hollywood elites face healthcare hassles
October 26, 2020 15:27 - 6 minutes - 5.54 MBHow does having to work to qualify for employer-sponsored health insurance affect Americans with chronic illness? Does managing health insurance get any easier after retirement? (Hint - not necessarily.) Are Medicare Advantage plans really advantageous? And for whom? Retired actor Kathy Fields Lander, wife of actor and comedian David L. Lander, and host Brenda Gazzar talk about how fears for a loved one’s health care can keep family members up at night, and the importance of health care to ...
'HEL-LO!’ to healthcare uncertainty,” says Laverne & Shirley’s Squiggy
October 19, 2020 17:16 - 6 minutes - 5.59 MBDid you hear about the upcoming changes to SAG-AFTRA’s employee-benefit plans? How are union health plans coping with America’s out-of-control healthcare costs? Are retiree health benefits guaranteed for life? David L. Lander, his wife Kathy Fields Lander, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss how changes to SAG-AFTRA’s benefit plans impact long-time union members like them and the complicated, costly insurance alternatives they are left with.
America’s Avoidable Tragedy?
October 12, 2020 15:24 - 6 minutes - 5.6 MBIs healthcare inequality more evident to America’s mayors than to our federal representatives? How differently might the pandemic have played out if Medicare for All had already been in place? Did the link between employment and health insurance force Americans to keep working - not just for the income but also for the insurance? Libby Schaaf, Oakland, California mayor, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss how coronavirus suffering in the U.S. could have been reduced.
Mayors for Medicare for All: Upending the Status Quo
October 05, 2020 16:55 - 6 minutes - 5.7 MBWhy have two California mayors joined forces to launch Mayors for Medicare for All? How are American cities "laboratories for democracy?" How has the COVID-19 pandemic affected local communities? Libby Schaaf, Oakland mayor and the City Council's former senior policy adviser for Community & Economic Development, and host Brenda Gazzar discuss how fixing America's broken healthcare system is critical to equity, justice and decency.
The fight for transformative, accessible and inclusive health care for all
September 28, 2020 15:50 - 6 minutes - 5.45 MBWhat healthcare policies are necessary to expand access to care to low-income people? How will these policies benefit every person in our country? What happens to the billions of dollars undocumented workers pay into Medicare and Social Security each year? Angelica Salas, executive director of CHIRLA (Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights) and host Brenda Gazzar discuss how the pandemic has highlighted our interdependence and the need to take care of one another.
Immigrant Justice: For some, it never comes
September 21, 2020 18:41 - 6 minutes - 5.55 MBWhat happens when immigrant workers become ill? Hear the story of how Guillermo, an undocumented construction worker in his late fifties, was exposed to coronavirus on the job and lost his life. How does his death impact his family and his community? Angelica Salas, executive director of CHIRLA (Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights) and host Brenda Gazzar discuss how access to emergency health care alone is simply not enough.